Regency Centers Q2 2023 Earnings Report

Regency Centers EPS Results

• Actual EPS: $0.50
• Consensus EPS: $1.01
• Beat/Miss: Missed by -$0.51
• One Year Ago EPS: $1.00

Regency Centers Revenue Results

• Actual Revenue: $314.25 million
• Expected Revenue: $313.32 million
• Beat/Miss: Beat by +$930.00 thousand
• YoY Revenue Growth: N/A

Regency Centers Announcement Details

• Quarter: Q2 2023
• Date: 8/4/2023
• Time: After Market Closes
• Conference Call Date: Friday, August 4, 2023
• Conference Call Time: 11:00AM ET

Regency Centers (NASDAQ:REG) is a publicly traded real estate investment trust (REIT) specializing in the ownership, operation and development of grocery-anchored shopping centers. Focused on everyday needs retail, the company’s portfolio is strategically concentrated in high-growth, densely populated markets across the United States. By aligning its properties with essential retailers, Regency Centers delivers stable income streams and drives sustained value for shareholders.

Founded in 1963 and headquartered in Jacksonville, Florida, Regency Centers began as a single shopping center developer before evolving into one of the largest owners of grocery-center real estate. The company completed its initial public offering in the early 1990s and has since expanded through targeted acquisitions, ground-up developments and selective redevelopments. Over time, Regency Centers has built a reputation for disciplined underwriting and a hands-on approach to asset management.

Regency Centers offers a full suite of services that includes property leasing, marketing, capital improvements and ongoing operational oversight. Its in-house development and construction teams collaborate with national and regional grocers, pharmacy chains and service-oriented retailers to optimize tenant mix and enhance shopping-center performance. By focusing on necessity-based retail, Regency Centers aims to generate reliable foot traffic and foster long-term landlord-tenant partnerships.

The company’s governance structure is overseen by an experienced board of directors and executive leadership team with deep expertise in retail real estate investment, development and finance. With a commitment to sustainability, community engagement and prudent risk management, Regency Centers continues to pursue growth opportunities that align with evolving consumer preferences and demographic trends.

Regency Centers Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

• Regency delivered one of its strongest Q2 in history, driven by exceptional leasing volume, $175 M of new development starts, and the May merger announcement.
• The pending Ersat Biddle merger is slated to close in mid-to-late August, expected to be immediately accretive to core operating earnings and unlock ~$9 M of annual G&A synergies.
• Q2 leasing was a standout, with shop leased rate up to 92.7%, blended cash rent spreads of 12% (≈30% on new deals), and a signed-but-not-occupied pipeline representing over $30 M of annual base rent.
• Development momentum accelerated with a $400 M in-process pipeline, including a $90 M Whole Foods-anchored ground-up project in Long Island, all targeted to remain leverage-neutral and fund growth via free cash flow.
• 2023 guidance was raised: same-property NOI growth is now 3.0%–3.5%, NAREIT FFO and core operating earnings ranges were increased, and merger-related accretion of $0.01 per share is expected for 2023.

Presentation

[Operator]

Greetings, welcome to the Regency Centers Corporation's second quarter 2023 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce to you Kristy McElroy, Senior Vice President of Capital Markets. Thank you, Kristy. Please go ahead.

[Kristy McElroy, Senior Vice President of Capital Markets at Regency Centers]

Good morning, welcome to Regency Centers' second quarter 2023 earnings conference call. Joining me today are Lisa Palmer, President and Chief Executive Officer; Michael Maas, Chief Financial Officer; Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President; and Nicholas Wibbenmeyer, EVP and West Region President. As a reminder, today's discussion may contain forward-looking statements about the company's views of future business and financial performance, including forward earnings guidance and future market conditions. These are based on management's current beliefs and expectations and are subject to various risks and uncertainties. It's possible that actual results may differ materially from those suggested by these forward-looking statements we may make.

[Kristy McElroy, Senior Vice President of Capital Markets at Regency Centers]

Factors and risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from these statements may be included in our presentation today and are described in more detail in our filings with the SEC, specifically in our most recent Form 10-K and 10-Q filings. In our discussion today, we will also reference certain non-GAAP financial measures. The comparable GAAP financial measures are included in this quarter's earnings materials, which are posted on our investor relations website. Please note that we have also posted a presentation on our website with additional information, including disclosures related to forward earnings guidance. Our caution on forward-looking statements also applies to these presentation materials. Today's discussion may also contain forward-looking statements about the company's pending merger with Urstadt Biddle, including forward pro forma earnings accretion estimates and projected timing of the merger close.

[Kristy McElroy, Senior Vice President of Capital Markets at Regency Centers]

While we currently expect the transaction to close in mid to late August, the closing remains subject to shareholder approval and conditions being satisfied or waived. Lisa?

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

Thank you, Kristy. Good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us. We again had a really strong quarter, in fact, one of the strongest and most active quarters in Regency's history. Our success came from all facets of the business, including leasing, development starts, and of course, the Urstadt Biddle merger announcement in May. I've said many times since we emerged from the pandemic that Regency is so well positioned for sustained growth and that we're on our front foot, ready to capitalize on opportunities. Our achievements in the second quarter reflect this. They reflect the exceptional work of our team, supported by the strength of our portfolio, the current retail environment, and our balance sheet position. As we all know, there is still uncertainty in the macroeconomic landscape, but at Regency, we've not seen any signs of softening.

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

As evidenced by our results, the fundamentals of our business remain very healthy, and operating trends are strong. From a leasing perspective, tenant demand is robust, and the second quarter was one of our strongest quarters ever, and it's supported by sustained momentum in our LOI and lease negotiation pipelines. Tenant bankruptcies are playing out as we expected, but importantly, our exposure to these retailers is limited. From a capital allocation perspective, most of you know that we have been acutely focused on ramping our development and redevelopment activity back to our strategic goal of a pace of $200 million-$250 million of average annual investment. I'm really proud and gratified by the success demonstrated by such a strong second quarter for new project starts.

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

Nick will discuss our activity in more detail, but creating value through development and redevelopment has always been a core competency of Regency, and it is a competitive advantage for us that is often overlooked. As I've said before, I believe we have the best team and platform in the business, and with ground-up development, we can really move the needle in an environment where new supply of high-quality centers is lacking. Even as we ramp our activity, our pipeline will continue to be self-funded on a leverage-neutral basis with free cash flow, driving accretion and a sustainable component of our earnings growth above and beyond the organic same-property NOI growth that our high-quality, well-located properties are generating. With regard to Urstadt Biddle, we're proud of this transaction and are excited to integrate both the shopping centers and many of their people into Regency.

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

These centers align so well with our own and meaningfully expand our presence in these strong trade areas in the Northeast. The teams on both sides are working hard to effect an efficient and timely merger close. As Mike will discuss, we expect it to be immediately accretive to our core operating earnings. We also look forward to unlocking value within the combined portfolio under the umbrella of our leading national leasing and asset management platform. Another highlight of the quarter was the release of our annual corporate responsibility report in late May. This report is a synthesis of our commitment to ESG and the many initiatives driving us forward. We are extremely proud of the progress that we continue to make toward achieving our long-term goals. The principles of our program are embodied throughout our organization and are integral to achieving our strategic and financial objectives.

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

Before I turn it over to Alan, I'll reiterate that Regency is very well positioned in this environment, given the strength of our assets, the trade areas in which we operate, supported by the solid fundamentals of the grocery-anchored suburban shopping center business today. Our liquidity and balance sheet position will allow us to remain opportunistic, driving sustainable cash flow growth going forward. Alan?

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

Thank you, Lisa. Good morning, everyone. We continue to benefit from a strong retail environment, as demonstrated by another quarter of fantastic operating results, particularly on the leasing side. New leasing volume year to date is 40% above our historical average. In the second quarter, we achieved our highest shop new leasing volume in over 10 years. As a result, we increased our shop lease rate by another 60 basis points sequentially to 92.7%. Our overall same-property lease rate is up 10 basis points in the second quarter, despite 60 basis points of occupancy loss due to bankruptcy, further validating the strength and quality of our portfolio. Exceptional second quarter leasing activity also came with strong cash rent spreads of 12% on a blended basis and nearly 30% on new leasing.

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

Our continued success with contractual rent steps is reflected in our GAAP rent spreads of 20% on a blended basis. This strength in our operating trends helped us drive another successful quarter for same-property base rent and NOI growth. Tenant demand is coming from a broad range of categories, including, but not limited to, grocers, off-price, medical, restaurants, and pet services. Our signed but not occupied pipeline represents over $30 million of annual incremental base rent, and our same-property occupancy spread remains wide at 250 basis points. Even as executed leases commence each quarter, we continue to replenish our SNO pipeline with the execution of new deals. We look ahead, our leasing pipelines remain full, with another 1 million sq ft under LOI and lease negotiation.

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

Our second quarter activity did include a mix of larger space deals with longer lease terms, which resulted in elevated per square foot leasing CapEx. Importantly, net effective rents remain in line with our historical average. With regard to backfilling our former Bed Bath & Beyond spaces, we are executing our vision and making excellent leasing progress. You'll recall that our exposure at the time of the bankruptcy filing a quarter ago was 50 basis points of ABR. two of our locations were purchased at auction by Burlington and Michaels, and we have fully executed leases on 3 additional spaces. We have significant interest on the remaining spaces, our team is actively negotiating with multiple prospects, including the in-process pursuit of redevelopment projects at a couple of the locations.

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

Overall, we anticipate marking to market our rents by approximately 20%-25% on average for our former Bed Bath & Beyond stores. As we've noted previously, we feel confident in our ability to re-lease our high-quality real estate when tenant bankruptcies occur, often at higher rents and upgraded tenancy. In closing, we recognize that our success in the second quarter is not only reflective of the current environment and the strength of our assets, but of the hard work of our best-in-class leasing and operating team. We see that momentum continuing as we work in the coming months to integrate Urstadt Biddle's people and high-quality properties and create even more value through the combined portfolio. Nick?

[Nick Wibbenmeyer, EVP and West Region President at Regency Centers]

Thank you, Alan. Good morning, everyone. We had a very productive and gratifying quarter for development and redevelopment activity. We started several exciting new projects and made great progress on leasing and construction across our $400 million in-process pipeline, while maintaining costs, returns, and timing consistent with our underwriting. We also continue to build our future pipeline of projects and see meaningful opportunities for incremental investment. In the second quarter, we started 12 new development and redevelopment projects totaling $175 million. That is an impressive amount for Regency, and I'd like to thank our development teams for their efforts, as these project starts reflect years of hard work behind the scenes, getting us ready to commence construction at these sites.

[Nick Wibbenmeyer, EVP and West Region President at Regency Centers]

The first project I'd like to highlight is SunVet, the $90 million Whole Foods-anchored, ground-up development on Long Island that we spoke about last quarter. The property is in Holbrook, New York, located on the heavily trafficked east-west artery of Sunrise Highway, which is the dominant retail corridor in the market. Construction commenced on the 170,000 sq ft center in May. We anticipate Whole Foods opening in 2025. We already have signed leases with Starbucks as well as Citibank and have seen significant leasing interest from many other best-in-class retailers. In the second quarter, we also started phase three of our redevelopment of Serramonte in Daly City. This project will allow us to transform the northeast quadrant of the property, including the redevelopment of the former J.C.

[Nick Wibbenmeyer, EVP and West Region President at Regency Centers]

Penney space with a world-class Asian food market, as well as the development of two new small shop buildings adjacent to Macy's. We continue to see significant demand throughout all components of this asset and look forward to even more value creation in the future. We also commenced redevelopment on our Whole Foods anchor, Mandarin Landing in Jacksonville, which will include a new 25,000 sq ft Baptist Health Medical Center, additional shop space, and a new two-tenant pad building. In addition to the development and redevelopment starts, I'm appreciative and proud of the works our teams have done completing five projects during the second quarter, which will collectively contribute more than $5 million of annual incremental NOI.

[Nick Wibbenmeyer, EVP and West Region President at Regency Centers]

The largest of these projects was our $55 million redevelopment of The Crossing Clarendon in Arlington, Virginia, where our leasing and construction teams did an amazing job, further solidifying the asset at the center of gravity in the Rosslyn-Ballston corridor. The project is now 100% leased with an incredible tenant mix, including a new state-of-the-art flagship Life Time, which had a very successful opening a few weeks ago. Looking ahead, our teams are laser-focused on sourcing new investment opportunities. These include redevelopments within our existing portfolio, as well as new ground-up development projects. The three cornerstones of Regency's development strategy, our capabilities, our capital, and our contacts, are more relevant than ever in the current environment.

[Nick Wibbenmeyer, EVP and West Region President at Regency Centers]

Our leading grocers continue to expand, we are one of the few developers that have the ability to help them execute on their desire to locate within new, high-quality shopping centers throughout the country. We continue to build our pipeline to achieve our strategic objective of more than $1 billion of project starts over the next five years, as our expertise and our long-standing relationships, combined with our access to capital, uniquely position us to capitalize on opportunities. Mike?

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

Thanks, Nick. Good morning, everyone. I'll start with highlights from our second quarter results, walk through a few changes to our current year earnings guidance, provide some estimates for accretion related to our pending Urstadt Biddle merger, and finish with some comments on our balance sheet position. We grew same-property NOI by 3.6% in the second quarter, after excluding the impact of COVID period reserve collections. Importantly, the largest driver of growth continues to be base rent, contributing 380 basis points to the NOI growth rate in the quarter. As we've continued to stress on previous calls, base rent growth is the most important indicator of our portfolio's performance. In Q2, our growth was driven by the combination of embedded rent steps, positive re-leasing spreads, growth in occupancy, and redevelopments coming online.

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

Turning to 2023 guidance, as always, I'll refer you to the helpful detail on slides five through seven in our earnings presentation. Driven by another strong quarter of leasing, incredibly strong, if I may add, and greater clarity around the current operating environment and bankruptcy impact, we've raised the bottom end of our same-property NOI growth range, as well as our ranges for Nareit FFO and core operating earnings. With more certainty at the margin, we have eliminated some previous downside scenarios. Our updated same-property NOI growth range is now 3% to 3.5%. While we've maintained our total credit loss assumption at 60-90 basis points, we now expect a greater contribution from average commenced occupancy, benefiting from strong shop leasing through the first half of the year, and absorption more than offsetting the negative impact from bankruptcy closings.

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

Same-property NOI is the primary driver of the $0.01 increase in the midpoint of our core operating earnings guidance range. With the Bed Bath auction behind us and the outcome of those stores now known, we now have clarity on impact from the acceleration of below-market rents tied to those locations. For the full year, we anticipate roughly $6 million of accelerated below-market rent within our non-cash guidance, about half of which has been recognized year-to-date. Our full-year non-cash guidance also includes $3.5 million of expected impact from the reinstatement of straight-line rent associated with the conversion of cash-basis tenants back to accrual, up slightly from a quarter ago.

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

As a result, we've raised our assumption for non-cash items to plus or minus $37.5 million, positively impacting our Nareit FFO range, the midpoint of which is up $0.02. For those that are undoubtedly starting to think about 2024, we consider both of these items, combining for $9 million-$10 million of non-cash revenue this year, to be non-recurring in nature. Speaking of non-recurring items, our guidance for COVID period reserve collections for 2023 remains unchanged at $4 million. As we thankfully reach the last of our collections on deferral agreements, and with only 5% of our tenants on a cash basis of accounting today, we are not currently anticipating any material COVID period collections to recur in 2024.

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

These updated guidance ranges and the details I just reviewed remain on a Regency standalone basis only and do not yet factor in any impacts from the Urstadt Biddle transaction, which we expect to close by the end of this month. We will provide updated current year guidance with more detailed assumptions on a pro forma basis when we report our third quarter results, more to come. In the meantime, we are prepared to offer a high-level outlook. Our expectation is to deliver incremental per-share core operating earnings accretion of $0.01 in 2023, reflecting about 4 months of impact, and ±1.5% accretion for the full year of 2024, which continues to include an estimated $9 million of annual G&A cost synergies.

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

Importantly, this accretion estimate is for core operating earnings, not Nareit FFO, as it does not include any impact to non-cash items. The teams are making excellent progress with integration prep, and we're all excited for the merger closing and the future prospects of the combined company. I'll finish by highlighting the strength of our balance sheet, which is the foundation of our capital allocation strategy. With one of the strongest balance sheets in the overall REIT sector, our leverage remains at the low end of our targeted range of 5 to 5.5 times debt to EBITDA, and will remain so following the close of the Urstadt Biddle merger. We are generating significant free cash flow, expected to approach $150 million this year, self-funding our growing investments pipeline that Nick highlighted previously.

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

We have access to meaningful liquidity through our $1.25 billion line of credit, with less than 10% of our total debt maturing through the end of 2024. I can't stress enough the importance of our balance sheet strength in allowing us maximum flexibility throughout economic cycles and providing us an ability to remain opportunistic as the team executes on our investment strategy. With that, we look forward to taking your questions.

[Operator]

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please, while we poll for questions. The first question comes from the line of Craig Mailman with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question.

[Craig Mailman, Equity Research Analyst at Citigroup]

Hey, good morning. Lisa, just wanted to touch base on the transaction market. Clearly, I know you guys have UBA in the pipeline here. A lot of your peers have been talking about maybe a little bit of a thawing in the acquisition market. I'm just kind of curious what you guys are seeing, if there's even an appetite to buy one off, or if the focus now is just on redevelopment opportunities within the portfolio, and, you know, what you guys are going to bring into the portfolio after the merger closes.

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

Yeah, I appreciate the question, question, Craig. My first order of business is gonna be to toss that to Nick.

[Nick Wibbenmeyer, EVP and West Region President at Regency Centers]

Good morning, Craig. I appreciate the question as well. Yeah, as you guys have been hearing and seeing, closed activity definitely still remains thin, but there's no question we're seeing the pace of opportunities coming to market accelerating, and that bid-ask spread is tightening. We are starting to see data points come up, you know, somewhere in the range of low 6s to 7s on a cap rate. On certain deals, we're seeing them definitely even drop below 6, depending on the growth rate and the size. We are actively pursuing these opportunities, underwriting them, understanding them, and as always, if we see an opportunity that we think is equal or accretive to our quality and growth rate, or and accretive to our earnings, then we're, we're ready to move forward.

[Nick Wibbenmeyer, EVP and West Region President at Regency Centers]

As Mike just indicated, we have the capacity to do so.

[Craig Mailman, Equity Research Analyst at Citigroup]

Great. Just shifting to, to leasing, you guys had some good absorption here in, in the shop portfolio. I'm just kind of curious, you know, just monitoring whether the banking issues have had any impact. Just, are you guys seeing any particular vertical of tenants maybe backing off here, or has the access to capital not been an issue at all, and it's kind of continues to be across the board, demand for the, the shop space?

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

Yeah, Craig, good morning, it's Alan. We have not seen any backing off just yet, there's been no impact to your banking question at all. In fact, that would take us to our pipeline, which we feel really good about, where we have nearly 1 million square feet still in the pipeline that is in active negotiation right now. Nothing just yet.

[Craig Mailman, Equity Research Analyst at Citigroup]

Of that 1 million sq ft, like, how much of that would be shop, and, you know, where could we see that lease rate kind of tick to in the next quarters?

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

It probably leans more towards shops on the pipeline side, Craig. It's really across the board, just in both anchor and shops in terms of the activity. I think there's a lot of junior box retailers that just haven't had the ability to identify spaces, given limited supply. Of course, the Bed Bath & Beyond has, I think, opened a bit of that. Again, I think it's really addressing the totality of the portfolio, but leaning towards shops.

[Craig Mailman, Equity Research Analyst at Citigroup]

Great. Thank you.

[Operator]

The next question comes from the line of Sanket Agrawal with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question.

[Sanket Agrawal, Senior Equity Analyst at Evercore ISI]

Good morning, team. Thanks for taking my question. I was just curious around leasing activity. As we saw, that leasing activity picked up again in second quarter after being low in first quarter. We just wanted to understand how are the leasing conversations as of today and as we model spreads for second half and into 2024.

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

Can you just repeat the last part of that? As, as you're seeing an uptick, Sanket?

[Sanket Agrawal, Senior Equity Analyst at Evercore ISI]

Basically, leasing, leasing, leasing activity were up this quarter, right? We just wanted to know, like, how as we model spreads for second half of this year and for 24, what are the conversations on the leasing conversations on the ground today?

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

Sanket, I-I'll go ahead and see if I can answer that question. The leasing conversations on the ground still remain really positive. We're very proud of, I think, the certainly the spread that we achieved in the second quarter. I think, as you saw, it was almost 30% on new leasing. I think really a lot of that was a function of the mix of our anchor and shops, where we had a little bit more on the anchor front. If you look at just the shop spreads for the quarter, and you take a few of those anchor deals out, we were still in the mid-teens, which is really exceptional. I, I'd probably bring you also towards our gap rent spreads, which were 44%.

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

Again, really outstanding, for the quarter, and I think it, that, that ties into the focus the team has on embedded rent steps and, and really speaks to the strength of the market, to your question.

[Sanket Agrawal, Senior Equity Analyst at Evercore ISI]

I'd come back to, just our, you know, our opening remarks and just the, the overall strength of our business in suburban, especially grocery-anchored shopping centers. Anecdotally, we are hearing that with inflation abating some, our tenants are benefiting from that as well with, from a cost perspective, and also there's been improvements on the labor front. With all of that, again, that's the leasing conversations on the ground. We don't have any hard and fast evidence, but it is anecdotal, and we do have great relationships with our offices across the country and with our people really close to, close to our centers. Again-

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

we see continued strength at this point.

[Sanket Agrawal, Senior Equity Analyst at Evercore ISI]

Okay. I have follow-up. As you guys expect to close the UBP ac- Urstadt Biddle acquisition this quarter, did you guys, like, study the difference in base rent that, or is that Urstadt Biddle's portfolio has versus, your portfolio in similar markets? What is the gap there, and how much you guys are trying to acquire on that side as you take over that portfolio?

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

I'd just bring you back to, again, that we're really excited about integrating these properties, into our portfolio under our platform. You know, as, as, as you, as you heard us say when we announced the merger, and as I think we just reiterated today, we do believe that there is going to be some upside from leasing, and really capitalizing on bringing that into the Regency leasing and asset management platforms.

[Sanket Agrawal, Senior Equity Analyst at Evercore ISI]

Okay, thank you.

[Operator]

The next question comes from the line of Ki Bin Kim with Truist Securities. Please proceed with your question.

[Ki Bin Kim, Equity Research Analyst at Truist Securities]

Thanks, good morning. If I can start off with a really boring question, can you just help me go back to that below-market rent topic? You had a little bit more this quarter. How should that trend throughout the year? I'm just curious if there's going to be a bigger burn-off point at some point in 2023 or 2024.

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

Ki Bin, before Mike answers that, there are no boring questions, and there are no bad questions.

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

Yeah. Ki Bin, I, I will limit my response to 23. I mean, much more to come on 2024 as we finish out the budgeting process, this, which will kick off later this summer, and we'll offer more guidance later this year. You bring up a good point. I mentioned on the call, there will be a burn-off, really targeted to the Bed Bath & Beyond spaces in particular. We are anticipating losing another $1 million of non-cash rent-- non-cash income, just simply related to them in the second half versus the first. You should plan for that as we think about our full-year guidance. Hopefully, that helps you with what you're looking for on that item.

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

Plus, my prepared remarks with respect to, the reinstatement of, of, straight-line rent as well, not recurring.

[Ki Bin Kim, Equity Research Analyst at Truist Securities]

Okay. you know, at high level, you know, California is obviously your biggest market, and I'm just curious if there's been any discernible trends in terms of traffic or spending patterns when you compare California to your other markets and kind of, any standouts? Thanks.

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

Sure. Thanks for the question. This is Nick. Definitely not seeing any difference in California than the rest of the country. We're seeing strong demand across the board, that is inclusive of California, in all aspects of California. I would even point out, even in the Bay Area, because, again, the majority of our properties are in the suburban markets that are still seeing significant demand. We're very, very pleased with the activity, the demand, and the leasing velocity we're seeing out west.

[Ki Bin Kim, Equity Research Analyst at Truist Securities]

If I could squeeze a quick third one here. The New York MSA occupancy dropped to 82%. Was that just the leasing for development or anything you can share on that?

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

Ki Bin, I think that's the vacating of our grocer in Manhattan, the Food Emporium deal. Again, we, we've, we can't announce who that tenant is, but we've already executed a lease to replace a majority of that space, so more to come in the next quarter.

[Ki Bin Kim, Equity Research Analyst at Truist Securities]

Okay. Thank you.

[Operator]

The next question comes from the line of Juan Sanabria with BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

[Eric Borden, Senior Associate and Equity Analyst at BMO Capital Markets]

Hi, good morning. It's Eric on for Juan. According to your prepared remarks, it sounded like you had 60 basis points of occupancy loss related to the Bed Bath & Beyond and potentially other bankruptcies. I was just kind of curious on your expectations for the third quarter and the remainder of the year.

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

Hey, Eric. From a % lease perspective, I mean, this has changed from last quarter. Last quarter, we were communicating an expectation that by year-end, % lease could be actually down modestly as a result of Bed Bath & Beyond's filing. Given the team's incredible leasing activity in the shop category in the second quarter, we're now anticipating being up modestly as a spot % lease rate by year-end. Super excited about that here at Regency. However, from a commenced perspective, we are anticipating that that commenced spot rate at year-end is gonna be slightly down. You know, and that's only a matter of time as we deliver the signed and not occupied pipeline going into 2024.

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

Really, the seeds that were planted in the second quarter and the leasing that the team delivered from a leasing perspective, that's all gonna pay dividends for us as we, as we turn the calendar and move into 2024. Not to mention the fact that we're making incredible progress on the releasing of the, of the vacated Bed Bath stores as well.

[Eric Borden, Senior Associate and Equity Analyst at BMO Capital Markets]

Okay, that's helpful. Just following up on the SNO pipeline, that $30 million of ABR, could you just talk about, a little bit more about the commence-- the timing of that commencement there in 2023 and then into 2024?

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

Sure. Yeah, you've got it. 250 basis points, about $31 million of rent, that's about 3% of our ABR, and I'd say it's roughly half by year-end this year, and all of it, nearly all of it, by the end of next.

[Eric Borden, Senior Associate and Equity Analyst at BMO Capital Markets]

Okay, that's helpful. Last one for me, just given the acceleration in the leasing spreads, both on a cash and a rent bas- a GAAP basis, I was wondering if you just quantify the annual bumps in the second quarter. Is that a new trend? Is that expected to be the floor there? Any color on that would be very helpful.

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

What are we getting? Sorry, Alan, what are we getting in from a leasing bumps perspective in our current activity?

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

Yeah, no, Eric, thank you for that question. We are getting 100% of our new deals had steps this quarter, so very proud of that number and appreciative that the team has embraced the importance of embedded rent steps. I would say two-thirds of those deals had escalators that are at 3% or more. We are seeing a pretty good shift, Eric, on that, on that front.

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

Then from an impact perspective, Eric, you know, 140 basis points of our base rent growth is coming from rent steps, and that's been pretty consistent for us for a long time now, as the team has done an exceptional job of embedding growth into our leases. We are, you know, based on this momentum, and we're pushing this every single day, we're hopeful to move that impact going forward. It is a, a tough mountain to climb, and moving that impact to same property growth north from where we are now, will take some time, but the teams are doing, doing great work.

[Eric Borden, Senior Associate and Equity Analyst at BMO Capital Markets]

All right. Thank you very much.

[Operator]

The next question comes from the line of Greg McGinniss with Scotiabank. Please proceed with your question.

[Viktor Fediv, Analyst at Scotiabank]

Hello, this is Viktor Fediv here on with Greg McGinniss. I have a question on what does a typical leasing agreement look like now and how it has changed, if at all, during the last 3 months in terms of concessions, escalators and TIs?

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

Yeah, Viktor, thank you for the question. I would say it certainly has shifted a bit in the landlord arena, I think as evidenced by some of the results that you're seeing. From a market perspective, you know, we're not seeing capital go up just in terms of the market shifting that. For us specifically, in the quarter, it's gone up moderately because of just the mix of deals that we did this, this quarter, leaning more towards the, the anchor side. Generally speaking, as occupancies certainly rise, we feel pretty good about the quality of the portfolio, our ability to really choose the right retailers as we always intensely asset manage our portfolio, and continue with what we perceive as, as fair market terms.

[Viktor Fediv, Analyst at Scotiabank]

Got it. Thank you very much.

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

Thank you, Victor.

[Operator]

The next question comes from the line of Anthony Powell with Barclays. Please proceed with your question.

[Anthony Powell, Senior Equity Research Analyst; at Barclays]

Hi, good morning. A question on, on, on bad debt. I think you kept your bad debt guidance, the same. Other, some of, some of your peers have reduced their bad debt guidance, given kind of the better expected progression here. Yours is lower than others, but what are you seeing there on that front?

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

Hey, Anthony, appreciate the question. We left our guidance range unchanged, correct. What I would say there is. Actually, let's get some stats out here first. 60-90 basis points of our credit loss reserve. Remember, I think we all are familiar with this by now, but that's coming from two different line items, right? So you're losing base rent from the bankruptcy impact, but you're also recording bad debt expense unrelated to the bankruptcies, right? That's what's comprising the 60-90 basis points. Two-thirds of that guidance is from bankruptcy impact, the balance coming from traditional bad debt. I would say we're about 30% of the way through that estimate at the midyear, so at June.

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

Let me say this, if nothing else were to happen from this point forward in the bankruptcy arena, we'll probably end up closer to the 60 basis point side of that range. It does feel as if the, you know, as we all have talked about in the past, bankruptcies do tend to be seasonal. It does feel like more of a first half event than a second, we're in uncharted territories here, so we're just being a little bit careful with that range. 90 basis points would be satisfactory to kind of capture any, you know, unforeseen kind of negative impact that could happen in the back half of the year.

[Anthony Powell, Senior Equity Research Analyst; at Barclays]

Got it. Thanks. Maybe one more on, on development. It seems like the, you know, the sector is doing very well here. Are you being approached by, you know, private equity firms or other sources of capital to do more development? This is a pretty strong fundamental sector, and you guys have obviously been successful in developing, so I'm curious what you're hearing there.

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

Yeah, Anthony, this is Nick. I appreciate the question. There, there's no doubt right now the financial markets are a challenge for most developers. We all talk about liquidity challenges. The, the tightest liquidity is in construction loans, and so that is really an opportunity for us. As I said in our prepared remarks, our capabilities, our capital, and our contacts, and we mean that, are all very necessary to make deals happen right now. They're really tough to make developments happen for a plethora of reasons. But that's why we feel really bullish we're going to get more than our fair share of opportunities. We have phones ringing from everyone in the business, whether it be capital interested, whether it be developers that need capital.

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

The good news is, we already have all the tools in our tool belts, and we're using those as appropriate. Excited about, obviously, bringing SunVet online, started construction this quarter, and hope to announce future deals in the future.

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

We, again, development has been an important part of our business model for as long as I've been at the company, and it just enhances our earnings growth. With $150 million of free cash flow, and we can essentially leverage that remaining leverage neutral, and invest that capital into our development, it, it, it really does move the needle with regards to, enhancing our earnings growth.

[Floris van Dijkum, Analyst at Compass Point]

All right. Thank you.

[Operator]

The next question comes from the line of Ronald Kamdem with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

[Ronald Kamdem, Managing Director, Head of US REITs and CRE Research at Morgan Stanley]

Hey, just two quick ones. Just starting on the sort of the recurring or nonrecurring stuff this year versus next year. Just trying to get my arms around that. I mean, I think it sounds like the collections of past reserves and certain non-cash items is gonna be the biggest sort of tough stuff to comp next year. From a cash basis, whether it's same store NOI, whether it's some of the occupancy gains, is that fair, that should be closer to sort of your long-term targets?

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

Yeah, I mean. Hey, Ron, it's Mike. Just to maybe catch some of the items you're referring to, we, and we, we try to make it very clear in the remarks, you know, there's $9 million-$10 million of non-cash FFO that won't be recurring. I wouldn't plan on that recurring next year, you know, driven by the straight-line reversals as well as the below-market acceleration. There's another $4 million that we've guided to from a prior collection perspective, and we're thankfully getting to the bottom of that bucket. Collectively, you're, you're in the $14 million range of nonrecurring FFO items. That's why we will continue to look through the core operating earnings to, again, remove the impact of those, of that non-cash component.

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

It's a better reflection of what we think AFFO direction should be. And then, you know, the, the prior year collections will take care of themselves.

[Ronald Kamdem, Managing Director, Head of US REITs and CRE Research at Morgan Stanley]

Got it. Makes sense. I mean, I think going back to, you know, I think some of the comments you made about the UBP merger, presumably, you're not gonna have any more of these headwinds on the same store NOI guide. Presumably, I mean, I think 2024, if you look past these non-cash items, I mean, it could be a pretty strong sort of year, right? What, what are sort of the, like, the puts and takes, right? Is it, is it bad debt that we should be thinking about? Because everything else seems like it's gonna be pretty, pretty strong.

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

Yeah. No, I, I'd appreciate you, you mentioning it. I'm gonna be a little careful, Ron, with talking too much about 2024. We're gonna give out, as we customarily do, a full suite of forward-looking guidance later in the year. I wanna kind of be careful there. From a rent steps perspective, as we just talked about, we will continue to deliver positive impacts just from contractual rent increases. We're having a great year so far on rent spreads. In this year alone, that's an 80 basis point positive impact. I would anticipate that rent spreads continue to positively impact us going forward. Commenced occupancy, we still have room to run. There was a question earlier today about the top end. 96%, on total and 93% on shops is where our eye level is.

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

That would include the to-be-merged portfolio, of Urstadt Biddle, which, you know, they're-- which will take some more time for us to achieve those levels. Their spot occupancy level's at about 200 basis points below ours today, and that's what we're excited about, driving growth from that portfolio. Something you didn't mention is the positive contribution from redevelopments. We scheduled that out in our supplement. 70 basis points to 2023 of positive NOI contribution. We've brought online key projects at the Abbott, Market Common Clarendon. These are exciting, large projects that we've brought online, and we've been talking about for, it feels like years now, and they're finally coming into fruition and through income. Those will continue to grow for us into next year as well.

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

There will be, you know, the impact of bankruptcies as a negative impact this year, and, and we'll make an adjustment from a credit loss perspective looking into 2024. As you know, our, our, our exposure to these tenants, just from a watch list perspective, is pretty limited. That's about what I want to share today on 2024 outlook. We'll, we'll give you much more to come, both on the merger, as well as on our, on our base outlook for 2024 later this year.

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

Probably important to, just to reiterate, I know you mentioned the opportunity in increasing the commenced occupancy in the UBP portfolio, but, in case you missed the prepared remarks, Mike did say that we expect 1.5% COE accretion in 2024 from that merger.

[Ronald Kamdem, Managing Director, Head of US REITs and CRE Research at Morgan Stanley]

Excellent. Thanks so much. Super helpful.

[Operator]

The next question comes from the line of Floris van Dijkum with Compass Point. Please proceed with your question.

[Floris van Dijkum, Analyst at Compass Point]

Hey, guys, thanks for, thanks for taking my question. I had, you know, you guys, you know, Regency is, you know, your DNA historically has always been development. You're leaning into development now when nobody else can, when, you know, demand still, you know, sort of exceeds supply, if you will. I think that bodes well for your future. I see that you're doing 2 different types of development, including, you know, repurposing a, a former anchor box at a mall, and you're doing some, it looks like some, some residential. I, I don't believe you're doing the residential yourself at Westbard, or are you doing that? Could you remind us again, what's how you look at residential and how you try to, you know, stick to your knitting? you know, typically would, you know, let others take the risk in, in non-core property types?

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

Appreciate the question, Floris. Also appreciate the comments. You are correct. We are focused on the retail portion of developments. It is our, it is our core competency, it is our competitive advantage, it is what we are really good at. Yes, there are going to be a mix of uses when we are focusing on some of the highest quality pieces of property and land, oftentimes there will be demands for other types of uses. When that is the case, we're certainly gonna capitalize on that, but it is not our specialty, so we will typically partner with someone who that is their core competency. and it may mean that we just invest the land.

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

It may mean that we invest a little bit of capital, but we will always bring in the expertise that is needed to ensure that we have, you know, the fulsome project in optimizing the land. We have examples of that, as you said, Westbard is one. We have one out in California, where Nick is, where we've partnered with Holland to do the residential across the street from The Grove, which is everyone is familiar with it. We've rebranded it to Bloom on Third. Absolutely, appreciate the question, Floris, and you are right, we are focused on the retail portion of high quality, mostly grocery-anchored suburban shopping centers.

[Nick Wibbenmeyer, EVP and West Region President at Regency Centers]

I guess, my, my follow-up here. I, I, I wouldn't consider California a market, it's a state. It has a couple of different markets in there, but New York clearly is gonna be your biggest market, particularly post the, the Urstadt Biddle merger. Is that, is that correct?

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

Yes, if you say markets and not a state, that is correct. Again, I think it's really where we like our-- we like the, the portfolio, the composition, our geographic diversity, the fact that we have offices across the United States, and we're very focused on trade areas, as you know, not necessarily macro markets. We will continue to invest in the markets that we are already invested in, when we have the opportunity, to add high quality, shopping centers to our portfolio.

[Nick Wibbenmeyer, EVP and West Region President at Regency Centers]

Thanks, Lisa.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from the line of Michael Mueller with JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.

[Michael Mueller, Analyst at J.P. Morgan]

Yeah, hi. Thanks. You've spent a little bit more time, it seems like, with the Urstadt portfolio. Just curious, how are you thinking about, say, the three-year same store NOI CAGR potential compared to the existing Regency portfolio?

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

Yeah, Mike, sorry, I'm gonna prevent the team from even answering the question. More to come on the close. We're not closed yet. We have spent more time with it. We're as excited as we have been since we announced the merger and since we started to look at it. None of that has changed. It's only accelerated and amplified. As a matter of maybe disclosure guidance, we, we actually, at this point in time, don't anticipate including it in the same property pool. We will, we will likely treat it as an asset acquisition. The technical question, how it will impact our same property growth, isn't necessarily relevant, but we're excited to talk about the portfolio when it's time to, to do so.

[Michael Mueller, Analyst at J.P. Morgan]

Got it. Thanks.

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

Sure.

[Operator]

The line of Michael Mueller with JP Morgan.. Please proceed with your question.

[Wes Golladay, Equity Research Analyst at Baird]

Hey, everyone, just wanna look at a, a high-level view of 2024. Just trying to find any potential headwinds, and more in particular, for the redevelopments. Are you gonna be de-leasing anything, of material size next year that you would know of at this point?

[Michael Mas, CFO at Regency Centers]

Hey, Wes. I think I've talked to the headwinds we wanna talk about already, and they're largely coming from the non-cash area, so the $9 million-$10 million of non-recurring, non-cash impacts. We've talked about the $4 million of prior year collections that also won't recur. That's where we're gonna limit our, our conversation today. The redevelopment impact I mentioned previously, you know, just again, directionality, we, we will continue to see that as a positive contributor going forward. The, the details of that are in the supplement, you can map that out.

[Wes Golladay, Equity Research Analyst at Baird]

Okay, fair enough. I guess more bigger picture, there, there is definitely a lot of developers struggling to see where SOFR is and what they would probably need for a development yield is quite high. You know, Are retailers coming to you saying, "Hey, could you just step up your pipeline?" Are you having those conversations? Are they willing to give you a higher yield? Could you take your pipeline up higher? Are you governed by maybe your free cash flow capacity? What's the outlook for maybe accelerating the development pipeline to a, to a much higher level than it is today?

[Nick Wibbenmeyer, EVP and West Region President at Regency Centers]

Sure, Wes. I, I appreciate the question. This is Nick. There is no question we are in direct dialogue with our partner grocers around the country. The grocers want to continue to add stores. Their business has been very good over the last several years, they're excited about continuing to grow their top line. There's no question, but there are challenges making those deals pencil, and there isn't one solution to solving all those challenges. Part of it's construction cost, part of it's entitlements, part of it is financing cost, part of it is rent.

[Nick Wibbenmeyer, EVP and West Region President at Regency Centers]

Our job and our capabilities allow us to stand in the middle of all of those and make sure we're pulling every single lever, using every tool in our toolbox, which is why I would tell you we're as excited as we've been in a long time about getting more than our fair share, because we are one of the only companies in the country that have all of those tools, have those capabilities, have those relationships, and have that knowledge. We're bullish on, on growing the development pipeline in this cycle right now. I'm sorry, go ahead, Lisa.

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

Sorry, Nick. No, I thought you were finished. Keep going.

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

Well, I'm just gonna allude to it. As, as Mike indicated, we have, we have plenty capacity, and, and as Lisa indicated, we have free cash flows, prioritized for it, and we have a balance sheet behind that to make sure we can appropriately continue to lean into those opportunities as we put those pieces together.

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

Yeah, all I was gonna add is that we, we haven't been limited to, from capital. It has been a limitation on the opportunity set because we're really disciplined. I think it's important that we maintain that discipline, and we will maintain that discipline. Nick reminds me all the time, because I like to say my $200 million-$250 million, that it could be lumpy, and there may be some years where it's gonna be more than that, and there may be some years where it's gonna be a little bit less. If we can average the $1 billion-$1.25 billion over five years, that's our goal.

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

If it gets to the point where the opportunity set is growing, we will certainly evaluate how we can meet that demand.

[Wes Golladay, Equity Research Analyst at Baird]

Great. Thanks, everyone, for the time.

[Operator]

Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the queue. You may press star two to remove any question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our next question comes from the line of Linda Tsai with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

[Linda Tsai, Equity Research Analyst at Jefferies]

Hi. I think your retention ratio was historically around 75%, and it's trending above that now. Are you getting back to peak occupancy, or are you above that?

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

Hey, Linda, it's Alan. We are still hovering in that seventy-.

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

Whoop!

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

Peak retention rate. She just clarified her question.

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

Peak retention rate.

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

Excuse me. We are still. Let me answer it. Well, let me get it, let me go in reverse then. In terms of are we back to where we think peak occupancies are, no. We believe there's still runway. We're making really good progress. Obviously, some of the bankruptcies that we alluded to, the 60 basis point impact, did sort of pull us back a bit, you know, despite the great success we had on a lot of the shop leasing. There's runway there. We feel really good about, again, as I said, the pipeline of where we're going. I hope not only do we get back to historic highs, but we can get past those. That's certainly where we're setting our eyes.

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

The only thing I'd add on retention is, and we've talked about this, the pandemic really kind of purged some of the weaker operators. As we emerge from that, we've done a great job of recovering our occupancy. We continue to do that. We continue to increase it. We feel better today about the strength and health of our operators than I think we ever have in the past. It does not surprise me that the retention rate continues to be strong, and I would expect that it will continue to stay there, if not improve.

[Linda Tsai, Equity Research Analyst at Jefferies]

Then when you look out to the next year or two, how do you think about the ratio of organic versus external growth in terms of having the best opportunity sets?

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

Again, $150 million in free cash flow, we will leverage that and invest that into our development and redevelopment activity. That's where you're gonna see our, our external. As Nick said earlier, we will always be evaluating acquisition opportunities, and to the extent that we can fund it so that it is accretive to earnings, and if the opportunity itself is neutral or at least neutral or accretive to our quality and our future growth rate, we're gonna act on them. I think you can take our same property NOI, and the team does a great job of, of the, of communicating that via our investor presentation as well as in meetings. If you take our same property NOI model, that's the base, that's the fundamental.

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

Then on top of that is going to be our investment activity, and that will enhance that growth.

[Linda Tsai, Equity Research Analyst at Jefferies]

Thank you.

[Operator]

The next question comes from the line of Michael Goldsmith with UBS. Please proceed with your question.

[Michael Goldsmith, Equity Research Analyst at UBS]

Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. My question relates kind of to the, the balance between new leasing and your ability to pay TIs. Are tenants looking for greater TIs? I saw it stepped up in the quarter, and, you know, just given the macro environment, maybe other landlords don't have as much capital available to help their tenants out. Is that helping you become a landlord of choice for certain types of tenants? Thanks.

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

Yeah, Michael, I appreciate the question. Look, we will invest in great retailers that we know have a great track record, that we've done tremendous business with. When you talk about sort of the uptick that we've experienced for the quarter, as I mentioned, it really is a little bit more just in terms of the mix of anchor and shops. You know, as noted in the supplemental, you'll see the weighted average length of term is also longer. I would bring you back to how we're thinking about net effective rents as a percent of GAAP rents, where we're in the mid to high 80% range over the last 5 quarters, and for this quarter, we're at 83%.

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

It's still really in line with how we are prudently managing, our capital spend. You know, we foresee it sticking in that similar range as, as we go forward.

[Michael Goldsmith, Equity Research Analyst at UBS]

Just as a follow-up, related to small shop, clearly another big quarter with a sequential step up of 60 basis points. You know, is there an artificial cap on how high small shop occupancy can get? Historically, it's been lower than, than anchor, but we've just seen such strong movement lately. It sounds like you have a great pipeline there. You know, is there a point where we just kind of reach, you know, reach a moment where maybe it just doesn't move that much higher, and, and are we approaching that?

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

Michael, I would say for all of our leasing agents that are listening to this call, there is no cap on our shop occupancy and the direction that we're going. You know, sure, we're gonna still obviously have some vacancy as even when we, even when we meet those historic highs or or get past those. Again, it's historically been in the 93%-ish range. And as I said previously, we feel pretty good about the direction that we're going with the pipeline that's in place right now.

[Michael Goldsmith, Equity Research Analyst at UBS]

Thank you very much. Good luck in the back half.

[Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President at Regency Centers]

Thanks, Michael.

[Operator]

Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, there are no further questions. I would like to turn the floor back over to Lisa Palmer for any closing comments.

[Lisa Palmer, President and CEO at Regency Centers]

Just wanna thank you all for joining us this morning and, and bearing with us through the end of this earnings cycle. Have a great weekend, all. Thank you.

[Operator]

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation, and have a great day.

Participants

Executives

• Alan Roth, EVP, National Property Operations and East Region President
• Kristy McElroy, Senior Vice President of Capital Markets
• Lisa Palmer, President and CEO
• Michael Mas, CFO
• Nick Wibbenmeyer, EVP and West Region President

Analysts

• Anthony Powell, Senior Equity Research Analyst; at Barclays
• Craig Mailman, Equity Research Analyst at Citigroup
• Eric Borden, Senior Associate and Equity Analyst at BMO Capital Markets
• Floris van Dijkum, Analyst at Compass Point
• Ki Bin Kim, Equity Research Analyst at Truist Securities
• Linda Tsai, Equity Research Analyst at Jefferies
• Michael Goldsmith, Equity Research Analyst at UBS
• Michael Mueller, Analyst at J.P. Morgan
• Ronald Kamdem, Managing Director, Head of US REITs and CRE Research at Morgan Stanley
• Sanket Agrawal, Senior Equity Analyst at Evercore ISI
• Viktor Fediv, Analyst at Scotiabank
• Wes Golladay, Equity Research Analyst at Baird