NASDAQ:BOOM DMC Global Q2 2024 Earnings Report $6.90 +0.05 (+0.73%) Closing price 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$6.82 -0.08 (-1.16%) As of 05:08 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast DMC Global EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.29Consensus EPS $0.13Beat/MissBeat by +$0.16One Year Ago EPS$0.72DMC Global Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$171.18 millionExpected Revenue$165.45 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$5.73 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ADMC Global Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/1/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, August 1, 2024Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsDMC Global's Q2 2026 earnings is estimated for Tuesday, August 4, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 5:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by DMC Global Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 1, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Consolidated Q2 sales of $171.2M and adjusted EBITDA of $19.4M exceeded the high end of guidance, marking a sequential rebound despite weakness in core markets. Arcadia drove performance with Q2 sales of $69.7M, a 600 bp gross margin improvement to 33.2%, and an EBITDA margin rise to 17.8% through operational efficiencies. DynaEnergetics saw Q2 sales of $76.2M (down 2% sequentially, 10% YoY) and an EBITDA margin drop to 11.5% due to lower volumes, softer pricing, and a $0.5M bad‐debt expense, though cost reductions aim to boost H2 results. The Metals business (NobelClad) achieved a 22.7% EBITDA margin, Q2 sales of $25.2M, and a backlog up over 20% to $64M, driven by a record petrochemical order. DMC’s Board is evaluating a range of strategic options to unlock shareholder value and will provide updates when appropriate. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallDMC Global Q2 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:01Greetings, and welcome to the DMC Global second quarter earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Should anyone require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Geoff High, VP of IR. Thank you. You may begin. Geoff HighVP of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications at DMC Global00:00:33Hello, and welcome to DMC's second quarter conference call. Presenting today are DMC CEO, Michael Kuta, and Chief Financial Officer, Eric Walter. I'd like to remind everyone that matters discussed during this call may include forward-looking statements that are based on our estimates, projections, and assumptions as of today's date, and are subject to risks and uncertainties that are disclosed in our filings with the SEC. Our business is subject to certain risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated in our forward-looking statements. DMC assumes no obligation to update forward-looking statements that become untrue because of subsequent events. Today's earnings release and a related presentation on our second quarter performance are available on the investors page of our website, located at dmcglobal.com. A webcast replay of today's presentation will be available at our website shortly after the conclusion of this call. Geoff HighVP of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications at DMC Global00:01:29With that, I'll turn the call over to Michael Kuta. Michael? Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:01:32Hello, and thank you for joining us today. DMC reported second quarter sales of $171.2 million and Adjusted EBITDA attributable to DMC of $19.4 million. Our results represent a sequential rebound versus the first quarter and were achieved despite continued weakness in our primary construction and energy products markets. The results also were above the high end of our guidance range. Arcadia, our building products business, was a key driver in our improved financial performance, reporting second quarter sales of $69.7 million and gross margin of 33.2%. Gross margin was up 600 basis points from the first quarter. In the comparable quarter last year, Arcadia's gross profit was 34.7%, which was their best margin performance since we acquired the business in December 2021. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:02:29Arcadia's second quarter Adjusted EBITDA margin was 17.8% versus 9.5% in the first quarter and 20.8% in the year ago second quarter. The results reflect management's focus on improving operational efficiencies and streamlining Arcadia's cost structure. A successful effort to debottleneck finishing operations has improved Arcadia's capacity, and the business is working to further strengthen its customer service and lead times. DynaEnergetics, our energy products business, reported second quarter sales of $76.2 million, down 2% sequentially and down 10% versus last year's second quarter. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 11.5%, down from 13.5% in the first quarter and 23% in the year ago second quarter. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:03:22This year's second quarter results reflect lower sales volumes and softer pricing in North America, as well as a $500,000 bad debt expense. Well completions in Dyna's core U.S. onshore market declined in five of the first six months of the year, and the number of frack spreads is off roughly 13% from the 2024 peak. We expect North American completion activity will remain soft during the second half of the year. Dyna has taken steps to align its cost structure with anticipated demand. Recent cost reductions, coupled with previously discussed automation and product enhancement initiatives, are expected to improve Dyna's EBITDA margins during the back half of the year. In the fourth quarter, sales and margins should benefit from an expected increase in international product sales. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:04:12Sales at NobelClad, our composite metals business, were $25.2 million, which is up 2% versus the year ago quarter and down 6% sequentially. Adjusted EBITDA margin was a strong 22.7% and benefited from favorable delivery, timing, and project mix. NobelClad's second quarter order backlog of $64 million was up over 20% sequentially and reflects the impact of the record petrochemical order we discussed during our last call. DMC's board of directors continues to evaluate a range of strategic options to unlock shareholder value. We will issue an update when appropriate. I'm encouraged by the progress made by DMC's businesses during the second quarter. I want to thank our employees for their commitment and outstanding efforts. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:05:00Now I'll turn the call over to Eric for a closer look at our second quarter financial performance and a review of our third quarter guidance. Eric? Eric WalterCFO at DMC Global00:05:09Thanks, Michael. Consolidated second quarter sales were $171 million, up 3% sequentially and down 9% from last year's second quarter, which was one of DMC's strongest historical quarters. Consolidated gross margin was 27.1%, up sequentially from the 25.4% and down from 32.8% in last year's second quarter. As Michael noted, the sequential improvement reflects a strong margin recovery at Arcadia versus the first quarter. The decline versus last year's second quarter reflects lower sales and margin at DynaEnergetics. Second quarter SG&A was approximately $27 million or 15.8% of net sales, versus $29 million, or 15.5% of sales in the second quarter of last year.... Lower outside service expenses across all DMC businesses drove the reduction. Eric WalterCFO at DMC Global00:06:13Inclusive of the Arcadia non-controlling interest, consolidated second quarter adjusted EBITDA margin was 14.3% of sales, up from 11.4% in the first quarter, and down from 20.3% in the year-ago second quarter. Second quarter adjusted net income attributable to DMC was $5.7 million, while adjusted EPS attributable to DMC was $0.29. With respect to liquidity, we ended the second quarter with cash and cash equivalents of $15 million. Total debt, inclusive of debt issuance costs of $84 million, and net debt of $70 million. Our debt to adjusted EBITDA leverage ratio of 1.1 at the end of the second quarter remained well below our covenant threshold of 3.0. Eric WalterCFO at DMC Global00:07:08On a pro forma net debt basis, after subtracting cash, our leverage ratio was 0.92 at the end of the second quarter. Now, turning to guidance for the third quarter of 2024. Consolidated sales are expected in a range of $158 million-$168 million. We expect activity in Arcadia's primary markets to remain weak in the third quarter, while activity in Dyna's primary North American markets is expected to soften versus the second quarter. NobelClad sales are expected to be comparable to the second quarter. Third quarter Adjusted EBITDA, EBITDA attributable to DMC, is expected in a range of $15 million-$18 million. Arcadia's Adjusted EBITDA margin is expected to moderate versus the second quarter due to less absorption of overhead expenses on lower sales. Eric WalterCFO at DMC Global00:08:03While we expect Dyna will improve modestly due to cost reductions and operational initiatives. Adjusted EBITDA margin at NobelClad is expected to decline sequentially due to a less favorable project mix. With that, we're ready to take any questions from our analysts. Operator? Operator00:08:22Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we pull for questions. The first question is from Gerry Sweeney from Roth Capital Partners. Please go ahead. Gerry SweeneyManaging Director at ROTH Capital Partners00:08:54Good afternoon. Sorry, good afternoon, Mike, Eric, Geoff, thanks for taking my call. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:08:59Good afternoon. Gerry SweeneyManaging Director at ROTH Capital Partners00:09:02Question, sorry, not feeling well. But revenue at Arcadia was ahead of forecast, and obviously, gross margins, you executed extremely well on that front. Can you give us a little bit more detail on maybe some of the operational efficiencies and cost out reductions that you implemented in the segment to drive those margins? And, you know, are they sustainable? Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:09:26Yeah, thanks, Gerry. So what we've been doing is doing some cost outs, really streamlining the organization, getting more efficient, in particular in our finishing operations. So our finishing operations are the heartbeat of our organization, so that's what enables our customer service model. So everything goes through finishing, whether it's paint, anodizing, all material runs through there. So, the organization's really worked hard to debottleneck those ops, increase finishing capacity throughput, and so that's really driving real productivity improvements in the business and enabling the front end of the business. Gerry SweeneyManaging Director at ROTH Capital Partners00:10:07Got it. Then maybe this one for Eric. Cash flow was, I think, flat, essentially in the quarter. Maybe what's driving free cash flow in the quarter, and then, you know, projections for the remainder of the year? Obviously, the cash flow, there's puts and takes on that front, but just interested on that. Eric WalterCFO at DMC Global00:10:25Yeah. Yeah, thanks, Gerry. Yeah, for the second quarter, the free cash flow performance was really a function of timing and some one-time items. We had a prepaid purchase of explosives to secure our supply within Dyna. There was the timing of some customer advances in the NobelClad business moving from Q2 into Q3. And then we had some higher cash taxes in the quarter, and when you add all of those up, that had an impact, a negative impact on cash flow of about $10 million in Q2. So going forward, the answer to the second part of your question, we think that there's an opportunity to take out some net working capital out of the Dyna business, given where we think activity levels will materialize in the second half of the year, and also the opportunity to sharpen our pencil also at Arcadia. Eric WalterCFO at DMC Global00:11:22So we're looking to be, you know, finishing the year with a debt position of, call it, $65 million-$70 million, and using the cash flow we generate in the second half of the year to continue to pay down and delever that debt. So we feel good about where we're gonna be going, but had some headwinds, unfortunately, in the second quarter that were one-time in nature. Gerry SweeneyManaging Director at ROTH Capital Partners00:11:44Got it. Okay, I've got to jump back in queue. Thanks. Operator00:11:50The next question is from Stephen Gengaro from Stifel. Please go ahead. Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:11:56Thanks. Good afternoon, everybody. Eric WalterCFO at DMC Global00:11:59Hey, Stephen. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:12:00Stephen.Steph. Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:12:01So two things for me. The first, can you talk about the DynaEnergetics business a bit more, and just kind of the competitive landscape and what you're seeing kind of from a potential growth of that business relative to kind of completion activity, whether it's market share or completion intensity? How should we be thinking about that as we look at the next couple of quarters? Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:12:31Yeah, I think generally we'll move with the market. When you think about sequentially Q2 versus Q1, when you look at whether you look at completions, rig count, or frack spreads, those were generally down in the 4% range, which tracked Dyna performance. So I think that's probably the way to look at it. And our guidance reflects that softness in Q3 and Dyna. I think, so the I mean, the competitive dynamics are fairly steady, I would say. You know, and pricing continues to be a challenge. But, you know, we've got quite a few initiatives in place, you know, to offset these impacts and, you know, also reflect it in our guidance. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:13:20So the op excellence initiatives we're working on, cost takeout, that's gonna continue into the second half of the year. And some of that on the product design side is gonna take hold in 2025. So, you know, whatever the market's doing, we feel pretty good about controlling what we can control from a cost standpoint as well as from a competitive standpoint in our differentiation, and that remains. So, but I think that's the way to think about Dyna as we move forward. Maybe the last thing I'd say is that we're seeing healthy international activity, and we see a pickup, a bump in Q4. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:14:08So, you know, we should exit the year pretty strong on the international front in Q4, you know, which will offset some of the softness in North America. Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:14:21Okay. No, that's helpful. And then I think the other question I had was just kind of around the Arcadia, the put call option in Arcadia. And I think there's a little confusion out there, like the people I talk to, that whether it's like a snapshot in time or like in December, or whether this thing kind of rolls forward and... Like, what's the timing on when a decision on either party's part has to be made on the put call option on Arcadia, and how does that mechanically work? Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:15:02Yeah. So the put call first becomes exercisable at the end of December of this year, but that does not mean that anyone is compelled to exercise, us being, you know, exercising the call, or a minority partner exercising the put. So there's nothing that's compelling anybody to do that. Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:15:30But does it... Is it like a one-time event, or does it roll? Like, how long do you have to exercise the option? How long does that... Is it a day, a week, a year? Like, how does that work? Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:15:47It quite frankly continues on in perpetuity to the extent that neither party exercises the put or the call. Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:15:56Gotcha. Okay, great. Thanks. I'll get back in line. That's very helpful. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:16:01Thank you, StePHEN. Operator00:16:04As a reminder, it is star one to ask a question. The next question is from Ken Newman from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Ken NewmanEquity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:16:15Hey, guys. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:16:17Hey, Ken. Eric WalterCFO at DMC Global00:16:17Hey, Ken. Ken NewmanEquity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:16:18Thanks for the question. Hey, you know, I guess I'll start with Arcadia. You know, obviously, the market's still pretty weak. It looks like, you're expecting revenue down sequentially here from second quarter. I know you're not ready to give, you know, fourth-quarter guidance or anything, but I, I'm curious about what the customers are kind of saying in terms of longer-term visibility and how they're kind of thinking about, stabilization or timing of stabilization within that market specifically. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:16:53I think that we've got, I mean, just looking at the indicators out there, Ken, that we all look at, whether it's ABI in the West at 43.1, or the Dodge Momentum Index, which, you know, points towards some, you know, favorable end markets, but, you know, once again, driven by, you know, very kind of specific markets like data centers, non-res resi starts. So I mean, you see all the same data that we do. You know, from a customer perspective, I think we're seeing, you know, it's gonna be soft markets for a couple of quarters here, as we, as we go out into the year. I think, and, and in particular, when you look at our Q2, you know, we're pretty resilient. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:17:47You know, we're seeing, you know, obviously, our exposure to diverse end markets. Our bookings are relatively, you know, consistent, and quoting activity has been good. But, you know, there's, you know, folks citing interest rates that are pushing projects out. So look, I think, I think we've got a couple more quarters of softness, but I do think our guidance, you know, we guided in Q2, $64-$68. Q3 is another $64-$68, because that's sort of what the market's serving up. What we're doing, though, is the things that we can control, and we're talking about improving our operational effectiveness, is really driving the profitability and the EBITDA at the bottom line and driving cash flow. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:18:37I think, and I feel confident that we're going to do that the remainder of this year for whatever the market serves up. Ken NewmanEquity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:18:47That's helpful. I guess as a follow-on to that, I mean, with the cost and the cost ops in place for Arcadia, I mean, is there a way that we should think about normalized operating leverage as the volume stabilize? Obviously, I know it's gonna be very dependent on what the volumes do, but how do we think about, you know, incremental and decremental margins with this new cost kind of platform that you're on? Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:19:14Yeah, incremental and decrementals are, you know, material margin is probably in the, you know, call it, 45%-ish range. And then, you know, and then when you think about, you know, it's not a high fixed cost business. There's a larger labor component. So I think incremental or decremental margins are probably between, you know, call it 35% and 40%. Eric, would you concur with that? Eric WalterCFO at DMC Global00:19:45Yeah. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:19:45Yeah. Ken NewmanEquity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:19:47That's helpful. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:19:48But the incremental... I'm sorry, Ken, just real quick. The incremental and decrementals just aren't. They're not significantly higher than our gross margin percent in that, call it, 33% range, right? Eric WalterCFO at DMC Global00:20:02Right. Ken NewmanEquity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:20:04Right. Okay. Maybe one more, if you squeeze it in. You talked about some project mix headwinds, I think, on NobelClad. I know it's a smaller part of your business, but just, can you just talk about how persistent that mix headwind could be beyond this quarter as you think about the backlog of activity there? Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:20:26Yeah, so we see a dip in Q3, but a very strong Q4. And quite frankly, you know, not obviously providing guidance on 2025, but pretty bullish on 2025, and I think there are things shaping up that, you know, 2025 will be a really good year. Ken NewmanEquity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:20:48Very helpful. Thanks, guys. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:20:51Thanks, Ken. Geoff HighVP of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications at DMC Global00:20:53The next question is from Stephen Gengaro from Stifel. Please go ahead. Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:20:59Thanks. Just a quick follow-up, and, honestly, Michael, I'm not sure you can comment on this, but I'll ask you. When you think about the structure of the company and what you're looking at doing with the Dyna side, is there any thought to pulling back on that, either permanently or temporarily, given kind of what the market's like on the buyer side? Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:21:27Yeah, Stephen, I would just say that we're in the throes of strategic alternatives, and you know, there's a lot of, lot of, lot of things on the table, okay? So a lot of different things that we're evaluating, so broad scope. Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:21:46Okay. Is there any way to think about how you balance the, you know, maybe creating more of a pure play business versus valuation on pieces you might wanna sell? Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:22:04Can you rephrase or clarify the question? Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:22:12I guess the more direct way to say it is, would you take a lower price on something just to get rid of it, to make a cleaner exit, you know, a cleaner business that is left to run? Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:22:25Yeah. The viewpoint is, again, we're looking at a wide range of options to maximize shareholder value. Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:22:32Right. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:22:32And so, that's maximizing shareholder value is the key, so. Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:22:40Gotcha. Okay. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:22:42Yeah. Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:22:42Thank you. I'll just... That makes sense. Thanks. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:22:46Thank you, Steven. Geoff HighVP of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications at DMC Global00:22:49There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor back over to Michael Kuta, CEO, for closing comments. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:22:58Thanks again for joining us today. We appreciate your interest in DMC and look forward to our next update. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:01Greetings, and welcome to the DMC Global second quarter earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Should anyone require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Geoff High, VP of IR. Thank you. You may begin. Geoff HighVP of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications at DMC Global00:00:33Hello, and welcome to DMC's second quarter conference call. Presenting today are DMC CEO, Michael Kuta, and Chief Financial Officer, Eric Walter. I'd like to remind everyone that matters discussed during this call may include forward-looking statements that are based on our estimates, projections, and assumptions as of today's date, and are subject to risks and uncertainties that are disclosed in our filings with the SEC. Our business is subject to certain risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated in our forward-looking statements. DMC assumes no obligation to update forward-looking statements that become untrue because of subsequent events. Today's earnings release and a related presentation on our second quarter performance are available on the investors page of our website, located at dmcglobal.com. A webcast replay of today's presentation will be available at our website shortly after the conclusion of this call. Geoff HighVP of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications at DMC Global00:01:29With that, I'll turn the call over to Michael Kuta. Michael? Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:01:32Hello, and thank you for joining us today. DMC reported second quarter sales of $171.2 million and Adjusted EBITDA attributable to DMC of $19.4 million. Our results represent a sequential rebound versus the first quarter and were achieved despite continued weakness in our primary construction and energy products markets. The results also were above the high end of our guidance range. Arcadia, our building products business, was a key driver in our improved financial performance, reporting second quarter sales of $69.7 million and gross margin of 33.2%. Gross margin was up 600 basis points from the first quarter. In the comparable quarter last year, Arcadia's gross profit was 34.7%, which was their best margin performance since we acquired the business in December 2021. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:02:29Arcadia's second quarter Adjusted EBITDA margin was 17.8% versus 9.5% in the first quarter and 20.8% in the year ago second quarter. The results reflect management's focus on improving operational efficiencies and streamlining Arcadia's cost structure. A successful effort to debottleneck finishing operations has improved Arcadia's capacity, and the business is working to further strengthen its customer service and lead times. DynaEnergetics, our energy products business, reported second quarter sales of $76.2 million, down 2% sequentially and down 10% versus last year's second quarter. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 11.5%, down from 13.5% in the first quarter and 23% in the year ago second quarter. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:03:22This year's second quarter results reflect lower sales volumes and softer pricing in North America, as well as a $500,000 bad debt expense. Well completions in Dyna's core U.S. onshore market declined in five of the first six months of the year, and the number of frack spreads is off roughly 13% from the 2024 peak. We expect North American completion activity will remain soft during the second half of the year. Dyna has taken steps to align its cost structure with anticipated demand. Recent cost reductions, coupled with previously discussed automation and product enhancement initiatives, are expected to improve Dyna's EBITDA margins during the back half of the year. In the fourth quarter, sales and margins should benefit from an expected increase in international product sales. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:04:12Sales at NobelClad, our composite metals business, were $25.2 million, which is up 2% versus the year ago quarter and down 6% sequentially. Adjusted EBITDA margin was a strong 22.7% and benefited from favorable delivery, timing, and project mix. NobelClad's second quarter order backlog of $64 million was up over 20% sequentially and reflects the impact of the record petrochemical order we discussed during our last call. DMC's board of directors continues to evaluate a range of strategic options to unlock shareholder value. We will issue an update when appropriate. I'm encouraged by the progress made by DMC's businesses during the second quarter. I want to thank our employees for their commitment and outstanding efforts. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:05:00Now I'll turn the call over to Eric for a closer look at our second quarter financial performance and a review of our third quarter guidance. Eric? Eric WalterCFO at DMC Global00:05:09Thanks, Michael. Consolidated second quarter sales were $171 million, up 3% sequentially and down 9% from last year's second quarter, which was one of DMC's strongest historical quarters. Consolidated gross margin was 27.1%, up sequentially from the 25.4% and down from 32.8% in last year's second quarter. As Michael noted, the sequential improvement reflects a strong margin recovery at Arcadia versus the first quarter. The decline versus last year's second quarter reflects lower sales and margin at DynaEnergetics. Second quarter SG&A was approximately $27 million or 15.8% of net sales, versus $29 million, or 15.5% of sales in the second quarter of last year.... Lower outside service expenses across all DMC businesses drove the reduction. Eric WalterCFO at DMC Global00:06:13Inclusive of the Arcadia non-controlling interest, consolidated second quarter adjusted EBITDA margin was 14.3% of sales, up from 11.4% in the first quarter, and down from 20.3% in the year-ago second quarter. Second quarter adjusted net income attributable to DMC was $5.7 million, while adjusted EPS attributable to DMC was $0.29. With respect to liquidity, we ended the second quarter with cash and cash equivalents of $15 million. Total debt, inclusive of debt issuance costs of $84 million, and net debt of $70 million. Our debt to adjusted EBITDA leverage ratio of 1.1 at the end of the second quarter remained well below our covenant threshold of 3.0. Eric WalterCFO at DMC Global00:07:08On a pro forma net debt basis, after subtracting cash, our leverage ratio was 0.92 at the end of the second quarter. Now, turning to guidance for the third quarter of 2024. Consolidated sales are expected in a range of $158 million-$168 million. We expect activity in Arcadia's primary markets to remain weak in the third quarter, while activity in Dyna's primary North American markets is expected to soften versus the second quarter. NobelClad sales are expected to be comparable to the second quarter. Third quarter Adjusted EBITDA, EBITDA attributable to DMC, is expected in a range of $15 million-$18 million. Arcadia's Adjusted EBITDA margin is expected to moderate versus the second quarter due to less absorption of overhead expenses on lower sales. Eric WalterCFO at DMC Global00:08:03While we expect Dyna will improve modestly due to cost reductions and operational initiatives. Adjusted EBITDA margin at NobelClad is expected to decline sequentially due to a less favorable project mix. With that, we're ready to take any questions from our analysts. Operator? Operator00:08:22Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we pull for questions. The first question is from Gerry Sweeney from Roth Capital Partners. Please go ahead. Gerry SweeneyManaging Director at ROTH Capital Partners00:08:54Good afternoon. Sorry, good afternoon, Mike, Eric, Geoff, thanks for taking my call. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:08:59Good afternoon. Gerry SweeneyManaging Director at ROTH Capital Partners00:09:02Question, sorry, not feeling well. But revenue at Arcadia was ahead of forecast, and obviously, gross margins, you executed extremely well on that front. Can you give us a little bit more detail on maybe some of the operational efficiencies and cost out reductions that you implemented in the segment to drive those margins? And, you know, are they sustainable? Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:09:26Yeah, thanks, Gerry. So what we've been doing is doing some cost outs, really streamlining the organization, getting more efficient, in particular in our finishing operations. So our finishing operations are the heartbeat of our organization, so that's what enables our customer service model. So everything goes through finishing, whether it's paint, anodizing, all material runs through there. So, the organization's really worked hard to debottleneck those ops, increase finishing capacity throughput, and so that's really driving real productivity improvements in the business and enabling the front end of the business. Gerry SweeneyManaging Director at ROTH Capital Partners00:10:07Got it. Then maybe this one for Eric. Cash flow was, I think, flat, essentially in the quarter. Maybe what's driving free cash flow in the quarter, and then, you know, projections for the remainder of the year? Obviously, the cash flow, there's puts and takes on that front, but just interested on that. Eric WalterCFO at DMC Global00:10:25Yeah. Yeah, thanks, Gerry. Yeah, for the second quarter, the free cash flow performance was really a function of timing and some one-time items. We had a prepaid purchase of explosives to secure our supply within Dyna. There was the timing of some customer advances in the NobelClad business moving from Q2 into Q3. And then we had some higher cash taxes in the quarter, and when you add all of those up, that had an impact, a negative impact on cash flow of about $10 million in Q2. So going forward, the answer to the second part of your question, we think that there's an opportunity to take out some net working capital out of the Dyna business, given where we think activity levels will materialize in the second half of the year, and also the opportunity to sharpen our pencil also at Arcadia. Eric WalterCFO at DMC Global00:11:22So we're looking to be, you know, finishing the year with a debt position of, call it, $65 million-$70 million, and using the cash flow we generate in the second half of the year to continue to pay down and delever that debt. So we feel good about where we're gonna be going, but had some headwinds, unfortunately, in the second quarter that were one-time in nature. Gerry SweeneyManaging Director at ROTH Capital Partners00:11:44Got it. Okay, I've got to jump back in queue. Thanks. Operator00:11:50The next question is from Stephen Gengaro from Stifel. Please go ahead. Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:11:56Thanks. Good afternoon, everybody. Eric WalterCFO at DMC Global00:11:59Hey, Stephen. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:12:00Stephen.Steph. Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:12:01So two things for me. The first, can you talk about the DynaEnergetics business a bit more, and just kind of the competitive landscape and what you're seeing kind of from a potential growth of that business relative to kind of completion activity, whether it's market share or completion intensity? How should we be thinking about that as we look at the next couple of quarters? Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:12:31Yeah, I think generally we'll move with the market. When you think about sequentially Q2 versus Q1, when you look at whether you look at completions, rig count, or frack spreads, those were generally down in the 4% range, which tracked Dyna performance. So I think that's probably the way to look at it. And our guidance reflects that softness in Q3 and Dyna. I think, so the I mean, the competitive dynamics are fairly steady, I would say. You know, and pricing continues to be a challenge. But, you know, we've got quite a few initiatives in place, you know, to offset these impacts and, you know, also reflect it in our guidance. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:13:20So the op excellence initiatives we're working on, cost takeout, that's gonna continue into the second half of the year. And some of that on the product design side is gonna take hold in 2025. So, you know, whatever the market's doing, we feel pretty good about controlling what we can control from a cost standpoint as well as from a competitive standpoint in our differentiation, and that remains. So, but I think that's the way to think about Dyna as we move forward. Maybe the last thing I'd say is that we're seeing healthy international activity, and we see a pickup, a bump in Q4. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:14:08So, you know, we should exit the year pretty strong on the international front in Q4, you know, which will offset some of the softness in North America. Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:14:21Okay. No, that's helpful. And then I think the other question I had was just kind of around the Arcadia, the put call option in Arcadia. And I think there's a little confusion out there, like the people I talk to, that whether it's like a snapshot in time or like in December, or whether this thing kind of rolls forward and... Like, what's the timing on when a decision on either party's part has to be made on the put call option on Arcadia, and how does that mechanically work? Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:15:02Yeah. So the put call first becomes exercisable at the end of December of this year, but that does not mean that anyone is compelled to exercise, us being, you know, exercising the call, or a minority partner exercising the put. So there's nothing that's compelling anybody to do that. Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:15:30But does it... Is it like a one-time event, or does it roll? Like, how long do you have to exercise the option? How long does that... Is it a day, a week, a year? Like, how does that work? Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:15:47It quite frankly continues on in perpetuity to the extent that neither party exercises the put or the call. Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:15:56Gotcha. Okay, great. Thanks. I'll get back in line. That's very helpful. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:16:01Thank you, StePHEN. Operator00:16:04As a reminder, it is star one to ask a question. The next question is from Ken Newman from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Ken NewmanEquity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:16:15Hey, guys. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:16:17Hey, Ken. Eric WalterCFO at DMC Global00:16:17Hey, Ken. Ken NewmanEquity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:16:18Thanks for the question. Hey, you know, I guess I'll start with Arcadia. You know, obviously, the market's still pretty weak. It looks like, you're expecting revenue down sequentially here from second quarter. I know you're not ready to give, you know, fourth-quarter guidance or anything, but I, I'm curious about what the customers are kind of saying in terms of longer-term visibility and how they're kind of thinking about, stabilization or timing of stabilization within that market specifically. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:16:53I think that we've got, I mean, just looking at the indicators out there, Ken, that we all look at, whether it's ABI in the West at 43.1, or the Dodge Momentum Index, which, you know, points towards some, you know, favorable end markets, but, you know, once again, driven by, you know, very kind of specific markets like data centers, non-res resi starts. So I mean, you see all the same data that we do. You know, from a customer perspective, I think we're seeing, you know, it's gonna be soft markets for a couple of quarters here, as we, as we go out into the year. I think, and, and in particular, when you look at our Q2, you know, we're pretty resilient. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:17:47You know, we're seeing, you know, obviously, our exposure to diverse end markets. Our bookings are relatively, you know, consistent, and quoting activity has been good. But, you know, there's, you know, folks citing interest rates that are pushing projects out. So look, I think, I think we've got a couple more quarters of softness, but I do think our guidance, you know, we guided in Q2, $64-$68. Q3 is another $64-$68, because that's sort of what the market's serving up. What we're doing, though, is the things that we can control, and we're talking about improving our operational effectiveness, is really driving the profitability and the EBITDA at the bottom line and driving cash flow. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:18:37I think, and I feel confident that we're going to do that the remainder of this year for whatever the market serves up. Ken NewmanEquity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:18:47That's helpful. I guess as a follow-on to that, I mean, with the cost and the cost ops in place for Arcadia, I mean, is there a way that we should think about normalized operating leverage as the volume stabilize? Obviously, I know it's gonna be very dependent on what the volumes do, but how do we think about, you know, incremental and decremental margins with this new cost kind of platform that you're on? Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:19:14Yeah, incremental and decrementals are, you know, material margin is probably in the, you know, call it, 45%-ish range. And then, you know, and then when you think about, you know, it's not a high fixed cost business. There's a larger labor component. So I think incremental or decremental margins are probably between, you know, call it 35% and 40%. Eric, would you concur with that? Eric WalterCFO at DMC Global00:19:45Yeah. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:19:45Yeah. Ken NewmanEquity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:19:47That's helpful. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:19:48But the incremental... I'm sorry, Ken, just real quick. The incremental and decrementals just aren't. They're not significantly higher than our gross margin percent in that, call it, 33% range, right? Eric WalterCFO at DMC Global00:20:02Right. Ken NewmanEquity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:20:04Right. Okay. Maybe one more, if you squeeze it in. You talked about some project mix headwinds, I think, on NobelClad. I know it's a smaller part of your business, but just, can you just talk about how persistent that mix headwind could be beyond this quarter as you think about the backlog of activity there? Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:20:26Yeah, so we see a dip in Q3, but a very strong Q4. And quite frankly, you know, not obviously providing guidance on 2025, but pretty bullish on 2025, and I think there are things shaping up that, you know, 2025 will be a really good year. Ken NewmanEquity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:20:48Very helpful. Thanks, guys. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:20:51Thanks, Ken. Geoff HighVP of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications at DMC Global00:20:53The next question is from Stephen Gengaro from Stifel. Please go ahead. Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:20:59Thanks. Just a quick follow-up, and, honestly, Michael, I'm not sure you can comment on this, but I'll ask you. When you think about the structure of the company and what you're looking at doing with the Dyna side, is there any thought to pulling back on that, either permanently or temporarily, given kind of what the market's like on the buyer side? Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:21:27Yeah, Stephen, I would just say that we're in the throes of strategic alternatives, and you know, there's a lot of, lot of, lot of things on the table, okay? So a lot of different things that we're evaluating, so broad scope. Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:21:46Okay. Is there any way to think about how you balance the, you know, maybe creating more of a pure play business versus valuation on pieces you might wanna sell? Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:22:04Can you rephrase or clarify the question? Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:22:12I guess the more direct way to say it is, would you take a lower price on something just to get rid of it, to make a cleaner exit, you know, a cleaner business that is left to run? Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:22:25Yeah. The viewpoint is, again, we're looking at a wide range of options to maximize shareholder value. Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:22:32Right. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:22:32And so, that's maximizing shareholder value is the key, so. Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:22:40Gotcha. Okay. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:22:42Yeah. Stephen GengaroManaging Director at Stifel00:22:42Thank you. I'll just... That makes sense. Thanks. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:22:46Thank you, Steven. Geoff HighVP of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications at DMC Global00:22:49There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor back over to Michael Kuta, CEO, for closing comments. Michael KutaCEO at DMC Global00:22:58Thanks again for joining us today. We appreciate your interest in DMC and look forward to our next update. Take care.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesEric WalterCFOGeoff HighVP of Investor Relations and Corporate CommunicationsMichael KutaCEOAnalystsGerry SweeneyManaging Director at ROTH Capital PartnersKen NewmanEquity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital MarketsStephen GengaroManaging Director at StifelPowered by