NASDAQ:AMKR Amkor Technology Q4 2024 Earnings Report $53.61 +0.92 (+1.75%) Closing price 09/25/2026 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$53.75 +0.14 (+0.26%) As of 09/25/2026 07:59 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Amkor Technology EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.43Consensus EPS $0.37Beat/MissBeat by +$0.06One Year Ago EPSN/AAmkor Technology Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$1.86 billionExpected Revenue$1.66 billionBeat/MissBeat by +$200.90 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AAmkor Technology Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2024Date2/10/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateMonday, February 10, 2025Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsAmkor Technology's Q3 2026 earnings is estimated for Monday, October 26, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 5:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Amkor Technology Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 10, 2025ShareShareShare This ReportLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Amkor delivered Q4 results in line with guidance with $1.63B revenue and $0.43 EPS, and full-year 2024 revenue totaled $6.3B, down 3% from 2023. Advanced Packaging revenue rose 3% year-over-year to a record $3.1B and the computing end market reached a record $1.2B, driven by ARM-based PCs and 2.5D AI GPUs. Amkor qualified its new Vietnam facility, secured $407M in CHIPS Act funding for the planned Arizona plant, and expanded partnerships with TSMC and Infineon to bolster advanced packaging and power modules. Communications revenue fell 25% sequentially in Q4 due to a build pattern change and a socket gap in the latest iOS phones, with the business expected to be muted in H1 2025 before recovering in H2. Automotive and industrial revenue declined 8% sequentially and has fallen year-over-year for seven consecutive quarters, although mid-teens growth in advanced packaging automotive programs is anticipated in 2025. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallAmkor Technology Q4 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Amkor Technology Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2024 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Diego, and I will be your conference facilitator today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's remarks, we will conduct the question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Jennifer Jue, Head of Investor Relations. Ms. Jue, please go ahead. Jennifer JueVP and Head of Investor Relations at Amkor Technology00:00:31Thank you, Operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us for Amkor's Fourth Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Joining me today are Giel Rutten, our Chief Executive Officer, and Megan Faust, our Chief Financial Officer. Our earnings press release was filed with the SEC this afternoon and is available on the Investor Relations page of our website, along with the presentation slides that accompany today's call. During this presentation, we will use non-GAAP financial measures, and you can find the reconciliation to the U.S. GAAP equivalent on our website. We will make forward-looking statements about our expectations for Amkor's future performance based on the environment as we currently see it. Of course, actual results could differ. Please refer to our press release and SEC filings for information on risk factors, uncertainties, and exceptions that could cause actual results to differ materially from these expectations. Jennifer JueVP and Head of Investor Relations at Amkor Technology00:01:34Please note that the financial results discussed today are preliminary, and final data will be included in our Form 10-K, and now, I'll turn the call over to Giel. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:01:46Thank you, Jennifer. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining the call today. Amkor delivered fourth-quarter results in line with guidance, with revenue of $1.63 billion and EPS of $0.43. For the full year 2024, revenue was $6.3 billion, a 3% decline from the previous year. The year met our expectations, except for the weakness in the automotive and industrial end markets, where we had expected improvement in the second half. During the year, we achieved several significant milestones. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:02:25Advanced packaging revenue increased 3% year-over-year, and advanced SiP reached a record of $3.1 billion. The computing end market reached a record of $1.2 billion, driven by growth in PCs and 2.5D technology for AI GPUs. We qualified our new Vietnam facility and ran production for System in Package and memory devices. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:02:55We solidified our U.S. manufacturing strategy and secured $407 million in CHIPS funding to support our planned Arizona facility, and we expanded our partnership with TSMC to support advanced packaging in the U.S. and with Infineon to support power modules in Europe. Despite the dynamic macro environment and short-term challenges, we remained focused on strengthening our technology leadership in advanced packaging, expanding our global footprint, and partnering with lead customers in growth markets. Now, let me discuss each of our end markets. In the fourth quarter, revenue in our communications end market declined 25% sequentially due to a change in build pattern for new iOS phones and temporary lower content in the latest iOS phone due to an SiP socket that we are not participating in. This socket gap drove the 7% decline in our total communication revenue for the full year 2024. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:04:07The iOS revenue decline was slightly offset by Android growth of 9% for the full year. For 2025, we expect our communications business to be muted in the first half, followed by above-seasonal growth in the second half. We're closely collaborating with our strategic customer and are confident in recovering the SiP socket in the next generation iOS phones. We expect continued improvement in Android revenue and are projecting total communication revenue to be flat year on year. Revenue in our computing end market increased 13% sequentially and 16% for the full year to record levels. Strong demand for AI GPUs and ramping programs supporting Arm-based PCs led to the growth, while weakness in traditional servers and networking dampened upside. Within the past few weeks, dynamics within the AI data center supply chain have impacted our 2.5D growth expectations for the year. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:05:18The accelerated transition to a new AI GPU product family, together with new trade restrictions, has resulted in an adjusted near-term outlook. We expect to continue running volume for 2.5D AI GPUs, but at a lower level than previously anticipated. As we navigate these dynamics, we remain confident in our project pipeline, including our new 2.5D customer that continues to ramp volume, and our first programs on the next generation RDL interposer technology, which started low-volume production. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:05:56The uncertain geopolitical environments limit visibility for the full year. However, we expect our computing end market to show mild growth for the full year. In the fourth quarter, revenue in our automotive and industrial end market declined 8% sequentially, missing our flat to mild growth expectations. Customer forecasts deteriorated throughout the quarter due to macro weakness and tight inventory control. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:06:30For the full year, the automotive and industrial end market declined 16% compared to 2023, and we have experienced seven quarters in a row of year-on-year declines. From our peak in 2022, revenue has declined nearly $300 million, primarily due to declines in mainstream products. For 2025, we expect advanced packaging programs in automotive to grow in the mid-teens % and remain optimistic about the recovery in our mainstream portfolio, although the timing is uncertain. Overall, we anticipate softness in the first part of the year and mild full-year growth. Revenue in our consumer end market increased 10% for full year 2024, driven by the ramp of a new hearable program utilizing advanced SiP technology. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:07:26This program helped to offset headwinds in other traditional consumer applications, and revenue in the fourth quarter remained relatively steady after a steep ramp in the third quarter.For 2025, we expect mild growth driven by a full year of production for the hearable program and modest improvements in traditional consumer programs. Now, I will turn to our first quarter outlook. For Q1, we expect revenue of $1.275 billion, reflecting a year-on-year decline of 7%, primarily due to the temporary socket gap in the current iOS phones. For full year 2025, we foresee a muted first half followed by a strong second half, driven by the content recovery in the next generation of iOS phones. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:08:22With each of the end markets expected to be flat to slightly up, we expect total company revenue to be flat to low single-digit growth for the year. With that, I will now turn the call over to Megan to provide more detailed financial information. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:08:42Thank you, Giel, and good afternoon, everyone. Fourth quarter financial performance met expectations with all financial metrics within our guidance range. Revenue of $1.63 billion declined more than seasonal sequentially, primarily due to our communications end markets, as well as prolonged weakness in the automotive and industrial end market. Fourth quarter gross profit was $247 million, and gross margin was 15.1%. Gross margin increased 50 basis points from Q3, primarily due to a change in product mix with a lower proportion of advanced SiP . Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:09:27Our gross margin is also being impacted by the ramp of our new Vietnam facility. In Q4, this had approximately 80 basis points of burden. Operating expenses for the quarter came in lower than expected at $112 million, partially due to lower incentive compensation. Operating income was $134 million, and operating income margin was 8.3%. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:09:59Favorable foreign currency partially offset higher-than-expected taxes, resulting in net income for the fourth quarter of $106 million, or EPS of $0.43. Fourth quarter EBITDA was $302 million, and EBITDA margin was 18.5%. Now, let's turn to our full year 2024 performance. Revenue of $6.3 billion was down 3% year-on-year. Due to the prolonged cycle and low utilization, the manufacturing teams strictly adhered to cost containment measures to maintain profitability. Gross profit for the year was $933 million, and gross margin was 14.8%. Operating income was $438 million, and operating margin was 6.9%. Our full-year effective tax rate was 17.5%. Net income for the year was $354 million, resulting in EPS of $1.43. EBITDA was $1.1 billion, and EBITDA margin was 17.3%. Amkor has exhibited strict financial discipline. CapEx for 2024 was $744 million and 11.8% capital intensity. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:11:36We focused our investments on expanding capacity for 2.5D in Korea and for advanced SiP in both Korea and Vietnam. Free cash flow for the full year was $359 million, demonstrating efficient working capital management and operational performance. We ended the year with $1.6 billion of cash and short-term investments and total liquidity of $2.3 billion. Our total debt as of the end of the quarter is $1.2 billion, and our debt-to-EBITDA ratio is 1.1 times. Moving on to our first quarter outlook, we anticipate revenue of approximately $1.275 billion, representing a year-on-year decline of 7%. With the underutilization expected across our factories and the burden associated with our new Vietnam facility as it ramps scale, profitability will be constrained. We expect gross margin to be between 10% and 13%. We expect Q1 operating expenses of around $120 million. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:12:56We expect our full-year effective tax rate to increase to around 20% due to new global tax regulations. First quarter net income is expected to be $23 million at the midpoint of guidance, resulting in EPS of $0.09. Our CapEx forecast for 2025 is $850 million, of which 5%-10% is estimated for our new advanced packaging facility in Arizona. Amkor has demonstrated resilience in this dynamic environment, and we are proud of the milestones we reached in 2024. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:13:38Strengthened our technology portfolio in advanced packaging for 2.5D and advanced SiP. Expanded our broad geographic footprint by successfully beginning production in Vietnam and securing CHIPS funding for our planned US manufacturing location, and enhanced partnerships with industry leaders in growth markets. With that, we will now open the call up for your questions. Operator. Operator00:14:11Thank you, and at this time, we will be conducting the question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Once again, to ask a question, press star one on your telephone keypad. Our first question comes from Toshiya Hari with Goldman Sachs. Please state your question. Toshiya HariManaging Director at Goldman Sachs00:14:53Hi. Good afternoon. Thank you so much for taking the question. Maybe one for Giel on the communications business. You talked a little bit about the lower content in sort of the iPhone and the impact it had, and then I guess your expectation for that to come back later in 2025. I guess what well, first of all, I guess if you can clarify or confirm how significant the hit was from that in the most recent quarter, that would be really helpful. And then what gives you the confidence that you or your partner can indeed sort of regain that content in the back half of the year? Thanks. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:15:33Toshiya. Yeah, let me try to give you a bit of background on this SiP socket. First of all, the confidence to get back into this slot in the next generation. I mean, we have a long-standing track record with this lead customer of Amkor in bringing new technology and new products to market. We started the development of this new socket for next generation phone generation in already 2024.We prepared mass production, and we have a clear line of sight of the ramp that will happen in the third quarter of 2025. It was a strategic decision by the end customer to do it the way that we decided to do it because it was an important, let's say, changeover in their architecture of the phone. So in that sense, we have a clear line of sight. It is a significant impact. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:16:39So let's see, the Q4 impact would be roughly. Megan, can you help here? Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:16:47Yeah. So as far as the Q4 impact, Toshiya, really the build pattern was the bigger piece of the Q4 impact. The socket gap was the lesser of the two. As we look at Q1, I think the way to think about it is with our year-over-year decline of 7% as our guide for Q1, the biggest driver of that is communications. And so that's where the socket gap is notable, is in the year-over-year decline. Toshiya HariVP of Investor Relations and Strategic Finance at Nvidia00:17:22Got it. Thank you so much. And then as my follow-up, maybe one for Megan on the gross margin side of things. So you're guiding to 10%-13% in Q1. You went through the puts and takes as it pertains to Q1. But how should we think about the trajectory into Q2 in the back half? Vietnam, I assume, stays a headwind, but as volumes grow and mix evolves, how should we think about gross margins progressing as you move throughout 2025? Thank you. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:17:57Sure, so yeah, for our Q1 guide, that's going to follow a pretty traditional incremental flow-through as far as the math's concerned with our range that we provided for Q1. As we look out towards the remaining part of the year, I would still say our financial model does support the 30%-40% incremental flow-through. This has evolved from our previous incremental flow-through of 40%-50% given the lift in material content that's happened over the past five years. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:18:31Back in 2019, when we came out with that original model, we were at 40% material content, and today we're at 55%. So I would say 30%-40% is now the better financial model given our profile. As we look towards 2025, the way to think about that would be the same incremental flow-through.From a Vietnam perspective, that will have around 100 basis points burden in Q1, so that's incorporated into our guide. That is going to gradually reduce over the course of the year such that as we exit 2025, we will be at break-even operating income. So that will have less of an impact on the full year. Operator00:19:24Thank you. And our next question comes from Joe Moore with Morgan Stanley. Please state your question. Joe MooreSemiconductor Industry Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:19:31Great. Thank you. I guess you talked about autos eroding over the course of the quarter, but you also talked about your optimism for 2025. Can you just give us a sense for what gives you the confidence in that growth? What are the specific package types that can offset the macro weakness that we're seeing? Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:19:51Joe, hi. This is Giel. You were referring specifically to one specific market? Joe MooreSemiconductor Industry Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:19:56Yes, to automotive. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:19:58To automotive. Well, the automotive market in the fourth quarter disappointed us because we were expecting a single-digit improvement in the fourth quarter, but it came in significantly lower at 6% below our previous quarter. So that's disappointing. Now, going forward, if we take our project pipeline in automotive, we see strength in the advanced packaging for automotive, specifically for ADAS devices, in-car networking, and infotainment, where we have strength with the, let's say, newcomers as well as the incumbent player for advanced packaging. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:20:48So in that sense, we have a strong project pipeline, and that builds confidence that 2025 will be, let's say, a flat year in automotive. For our mainstream products, now the line of sight is not that clear. It declined significantly over last year, but we believe that we reached the trough. That's at least the feedback that we're getting from our customers.We expect a gradual improvement for our mainstream portfolio, although visibility is still very vague. Joe MooreSemiconductor Industry Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:21:31Very helpful. Thank you. Operator00:21:35Your next question comes from Peter Peng with JPMorgan Chase & Company. Please state your question. Peter PengVP of Equity Research at JPMorgan Chase & Co00:21:41Hi. Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe if you can spend a little bit of time talking about the dynamic at your marquee customer, and then more importantly, as that customer ramps down given the Blackwell rollout, how are you expecting to kind of backfill that with either maybe expanding more customers, etc.? Maybe if you can just spend some time on that dynamic. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:22:08Yeah. Good point, Peter. Let me try to explain to you the dynamics here. I mean, in the broader sense in the compute market, we see that as an important market for us with a significant opportunity for growth over the next couple of years. So in the AI market, specifically for AI GPUs, we still see, let's say, the second generation being introduced now. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:22:35And for a couple of reasons, we see our 2.5D business to be below expectation in the first quarter of 2025, specifically related by the accelerated ramp of the next generation GPU family. And then the second element there is these China restrictions that came in by the end of 2024, and that had impact on several devices that we were planning to ramp in the first quarter and the second quarter. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:23:12Now, next to these, I would call it short-term dynamics. We are confident in our overall project and customer pipeline. We are ramping with our second customer in 2.5D in the first quarter. That's ongoing. We're also expanding our technology portfolio to RDL-based technologies. We have two devices ramping up, of which one is already in production in the first quarter, and we have a strong project pipeline going forward in further, let's say, AI-based technology. Now, if we look to the next generation GPU devices that are currently in a bridge-based technology, we consider ourselves their technology follower, not a technology leader, and we work on that technology in R&D, and we have several engagements with more than one customer to bring that into production in 2026. Peter PengVP of Equity Research at JPMorgan Chase & Co00:24:20Got it. Okay. Thank you. And then maybe even just talk about how you're thinking about OpEx spending through the year, just given the more muted revenue expectations? Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:24:34Okay. I'll leave that to Megan. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:24:36Hi, Peter. Yeah. So Q4 OpEx did come in lower than we expected. As we're looking at Q1, we're expecting that to increase mainly for your seasonal reset of incentive comp. From a full year, I would anticipate total OpEx being pretty similar to 2024. We are going to continue to invest in our technology roadmap as well as other technology surrounding power modules.So we're anticipating similar. That would also include continued strict headcount control, reduction of discretionary and travel spend, and deferral of other projects to maintain a lower level of OpEx similar to what we achieved in 2024. Peter PengVP of Equity Research at JPMorgan Chase & Co00:25:23Great. Thank you, guys. Operator00:25:27Our next question comes from Craig Ellis with B. Riley Securities. Please state your question. Craig EllisDirector of Research, Senior Semiconductor, and Capital Equipment Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:25:33Yeah. Thank you very much for taking the question. I'll stick within compute to start it off. What I was hoping to understand is if we look at the real strong growth within the segment in 2024, how much of that came from AI PCs versus GPU-based systems? And as you look at 2025, how would you expect those different opportunities to contribute to the growth that you expect? Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:26:06Thanks, Craig. Let me start with the growth in GPUs for AI data centers. We would consider that the major part of the growth that we have seen in 2024, that was within the 2.5D technologies. And there we invested in, we ramped that, and we were able to quadruple that revenue for 2.5D in 2024 according to plan. So that was the major part of our record year in our compute market. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:26:43Now, we see that market still continue as a good potential going forward. We're diversifying our customer base. We're diversifying our technology base. And we have a significant install base on capacity and capabilities in order to diversify our business beyond the current customer base. If we take the segment of AI-based PCs, then we have a couple of customers that are introducing new products there. Some customers are more successful than others. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:27:23But I believe that that's still an emerging segment where we are well positioned. We have products in the market currently with two lead customers in that market. There are fabless companies. So in that sense, we see further growth going forward, certainly when AI moves to edge devices like PCs, but ultimately also to smartphones. Craig EllisDirector of Research, Senior Semiconductor, and Capital Equipment Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:27:52That's really helpful, Giel Rutten. And the follow-up question is one that's less a modeling question and more a new program question. So in 2024, it was impressive because the company had Arm-based PCs and AI and a very good wearables program, and those benefited multiple segments. And as you look at 2025, clearly there's an opportunity to recapture some SiP share. And it seems like there's the foundation for continued growth in AI. But as we look at the company-specific things that will benefit Amkor, how would you set that list? And if you were to rank order it, how would it look? One through four, one through five. Thank you. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:28:43Yeah. Let me scan through the opportunities as we see it, Craig. I mean, let's start with communication. We already covered that. Now, regaining the SiP socket in the next generation phone is critical. That will not initiate growth. We expect a flat communication year, although we see some more recovery in the Android side, but we currently plan for a flat communication year. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:29:13If we take automotive in the previous, let's say, question, I covered that. We definitely see upsides on the advanced products in automotive, both for ADAS as well as infotainment. With key customers there, we have a strong pipeline. And we also see that next-generation products are being introduced, and that will refresh that pipeline to the market. And that will materialize in revenue in 2025. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:29:45Mainstream products in automotive stays a little bit vague, and that also includes our power and power modules going into that market. The EV market is a little bit soft at this moment, but there is definitely hope and feedback from customers that even on the mature side of automotive, we will see recovery during the year. Not a breakthrough, but at least we now have seen almost three years in a row of decline, and we hope that we see a flat to slightly up year in 2025. Now, then move into the compute segment. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:30:25We have many, let's say, opportunities going forward. There's also a significant uncertainty because this is the segment that is being hit by recent China restrictions. We had a strong pipeline there. And currently, we discount these devices because of that uncertainty. We didn't want to include that in our planning. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:30:57On the 2.5D and also on the RDL-based technology, we definitely see upsides, but we are conservative to call that a growth year. We currently see this as a, let's say, slightly up, worst-case a flat year for 2025. And last but not least, the consumer market. We expect that the current program will run for the full year 2025, and that will contribute to a flat to slightly up year. Again, also significant uncertainty on the more mature products still. So we're guiding quite conservative there for the full year, and we take a conservative look. So all in all, there are no breakout opportunities, but at least I would say we have a solid project pipeline going into all the market segments. Operator00:31:57Thank you. And your next question comes from Randy Abrams with UBS. Please state your question. Randy AbramsResearch Analyst at UBS00:32:03Yes. Hi there. Thank you. My first question, I actually wanted to touch on the CapEx where you're guiding to 2025. And I know you said you have some for Vietnam. But given that conservative outlook, maybe go through on the remaining piece where the allocation of spend and priorities between test assembly or any other special investment, I think you mentioned on the power module side. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:32:27Yeah. I'll leave that to Megan to cover this, Randy. Thanks for the question. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:32:33Hi, Randy. Our target is $850 million. I think I heard you say $825. Randy AbramsResearch Analyst at UBS00:32:40That's right. That's right. 850. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:32:42I wanted to clarify that, and so how that rolls out, about 70% of that is intended for capacity and capability, and the primary areas are in the high-performance computing market. We're intending to spend similar dollars on our high-performance computing for leading-edge technology, so the next generation of RDL and bridge technology as we work on those next generations. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:33:12The second area would be advanced SiP , and then the third largest would be test, so following that capacity and capability, we have about 25% on facilities and construction, and that's a little bit more elevated than what our historical intensity would be, but that is because we're allocating about 5 to 10% for our Arizona facility, and then the last 5% is on quality and R&D. We have earmarked certain investments for quality, including automation in our factories. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:33:48I did want to point out that the CHIPS funding that would be tied to some of these investments is tied to certain milestones, and so the timing of receipt for those is uncertain and is not incorporated into those guides. We do not expect to receive material grants in 2025 given those milestones. Randy AbramsResearch Analyst at UBS00:34:12Okay. Good color on that. I actually wanted to ask because of a lot of commentary in the market on tariffs affecting a few areas. First, if you're seeing any pull-ins, there's been some talk on the consumer side, but also given Mexico, Canada, if anything happening on automotive. So that's one if it's affecting timing of shipments. Second is on shifts. There's some talk about whether Taiwan gets a tariff. And if you're seeing any potential customer engagement or swing where that's a way to bypass tariff if you shift assembly. So curious on geographic shift if there could be any swings for your business from that side too. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:35:01Randy, let me make a few remarks on tariffs. I mean, currently, the impact is a little bit vague still because the tariff situation is not really well defined yet. Short term, we don't expect significant impact. I mean, the impact that you refer to in automotive, we currently don't see that. We believe that there is still about three-month inventory in the supply chain, which is still an elevated inventory level. And so I don't expect any constraints there driving short-term impact on prices. Now, with respect to Taiwan, it's difficult to say. I cannot comment to that, but I didn't hear any specifics here. On the other hand, what we saw is a significant impact on the latest rulemaking of the U.S. administration that came in December 2024 and December 2025. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:36:07I already referred to that with respect to the export of certain products into China related to AI. That's significantly stricter than before, where products that were allowed to be exported are now on the list of limited or restricted exported products. Also, we see that in the OSAT environment and in the foundry environment, there is a discrimination between approved companies and design companies and approved OSAT. And that took quite a bit of work on our side to look at the compliance. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:36:52But I feel that could, to some extent, work in our benefit, although there is still uncertainty going forward. So a bit of uncertainty and difficult to say what the specifics will be, Randy. Operator00:37:09Thank you. Your next question comes from Charles Shi with Needham. Please state your question. Charles Shi from Needham, your line is open. You're going to mute yourself. Charles ShiManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Needham00:37:26Hi. Operator00:37:26Move on. Go ahead. Charles ShiManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Needham00:37:28Yeah. I want to go back to the full-year outlook. You guys are expecting probably flat up a little bit for the full year given the slow start to the year, right? The Q1 down 7% year on year. It does seem to require some really above seasonal growth into the second half. But mind if you help us a little bit more here. What is the normal seasonality? Like in half of a half, maybe we can use that metric. And what's the expectation for that particular metric that would inform us that you're going to have above seasonal growth in the second half of the year? Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:38:12Yeah, Charles. That's a good question. Let me ask Megan to give you more details to increase your level of understanding. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:38:25Hi, Charles. Our seasonal pattern for the growth or for a typical year would be 45% in the first half and 55% in the second half. Given the dynamics happening within the communications market, where our first half will be muted, and I would say lower than seasonal, and with our confidence that we will regain that socket, it's going to amplify that first half, second half. I do want to. We've already given the flat to low single-digit growth for the full year. As you're looking at those models, that will require the second half growth to be quite considerable. It could even rise to the levels that were similar to Q4 2022. With that, you would be able to see how the shape of the year could be magnified even to a 40/60 pattern. Charles ShiManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Needham00:39:30That's very helpful. Maybe a question on regaining the socket with your high-end smartphone customer. So here, I think you mentioned you do have the line of sight for that particular socket to be going into production in maybe Q3, sounds like, this year. So how confident you are in terms of that particular socket will definitely go into this year's model? Because, well, we did have a little bit of surprise last year, right? Heading into Q3 and Q4. And what's your confidence level right now for regaining that particular socket? Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:40:17Yeah, the confidence level is high. Charles, I already mentioned before that we have a long-standing track record with this customer to bring new technology to the market. There's a clear cooperation model with strict milestones that are identified, and also the preparation for mass production in the third quarter, that timing and that plan, and let's say the milestones for mass production are well defined, so as I mentioned before, this was a strategic decision of the end customer. We're confident, and all the indications that we get with respect to project execution as well as mass production milestones are pointing that we are ready for Q3 2025 ramp for this product. Charles ShiManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Needham00:41:16Thank you. Operator00:41:20Our next question comes from Tom Diffely with DA Davidson. Please state your question. Tom DiffelyDirector of Institutional Research at DA Davidson00:41:25Yeah. Good afternoon. Appreciate the chance to ask a question. Giel, I wanted to talk a little bit more about the high-end compute market. Obviously, you ramped up very quickly over the last year and a half, your 2.5D capability or capacity. And I'm curious, when you look at moving to the next generation package type, is that going to require just an upgrade to your existing capacity, or is that completely new capacity, and then you have to backfill the old 2.5D with new clients? Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:41:56Yeah, that's a good question, Tom. Actually, we mentioned in our last earnings call that the investments that we did in 2024 was to a high extent fungible capacity. And that means that it can be used in a broader sense for wafer-based technologies. And we include there 2.5D, we include RDL-based technologies, and in the next step also in, let's say, a bridge technology for next-generation devices. So it's a fungible technology. And we proved that also now that with limited volumes, or we adjusted our volumes for 2.5D, it enables us to ramp the devices that we currently have in RDL-based technology. We ramp that up in parallel. So yeah, I think that's how we see it at this point in time, Tom. Tom DiffelyDirector of Institutional Research at DA Davidson00:43:00So when you look at the $850 million in CapEx, that's going to increase overall capacity, not just transform it into the newer capacity then? Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:43:11That's how we see it. I mentioned before we have a broad project pipeline. We're also seeing the opportunity in the AI data centers to broaden beyond, I would say, the main GPU in data centers. And that goes into a domain like CPUs and networking in data centers. They all use advanced packaging technologies. So our project pipeline is not only related to the GPUs, but definitely expands into other devices that go into data centers. Tom DiffelyDirector of Institutional Research at DA Davidson00:43:54Okay. Thank you. That's very helpful. And as a follow-up, Megan, I was wondering if you could give some more specifics about what is behind the tax rate from 2024 to 2025? Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:44:06Sure, Tom. It's related to the Pillar Two and how that is being adopted at specific jurisdictions. So we're anticipating a couple percentage impact to our effective tax rate for the full year. Tom DiffelyDirector of Institutional Research at DA Davidson00:44:24Okay. I appreciate your time. Operator00:44:28Thank you. And our next question comes from Steven Fox with Fox Advisors. Please state your question. Steven FoxFounder and CEO at Fox Advisors00:44:35Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for all the colors so far. I was just wondering if there's a way just to step back from all the program-specific color that you provided just to talk about the state of some of the broader markets, what you're assuming happens in the second half, specifically on edge devices, AI PCs, and smartphones, and on the more traditional auto markets that you're serving. Then I had a follow-up. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:45:06Steven, that's a very good question, but that doesn't make it an easy question to answer. We believe that AI will continue over the next years to provide opportunities. It started off with opportunities in devices that were used for training, and we now go into inference, and then we go to edge devices. We also see applications being launched also in the edge devices, like in PCs, but also in smartphones recently with applications in the iOS phones, but also in the Android phones already. So all of that will drive an upgrade on the hardware side and upgrades on the hardware side. Ultimately, we believe that that will drive an upside for semiconductors in general. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:46:04We believe in that pipeline with our technology base, with our at-scale capacity, and with our partnership network, including feeding into the foundries, that we are well positioned to capture these opportunities over the next couple of years. Steven FoxFounder and CEO at Fox Advisors00:46:23Fair enough. Sorry, I didn't mean to put you on the spot like that. And then just as a follow-up, can you just give us a sense for when you would expect to start receiving the CHIPS Act grants, not exactly month, but just sort of how many quarters into the capacity expansion would you start hitting the hurdles to receive funding back from the US government? Thanks. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:46:50Hi, Steven. So with respect to how the grants are outlined, they're attached to certain milestones during the project. So as we start our construction and as we move into 2026, we'll be able to give you a better feel for that. I think what's important to keep in mind is what our total investment for that project is expected to be. And that's over three to five years. We've shared that that could be about $2 billion. And between the CHIPS grant as well as investment tax credits combined, that together could be about $800 million in reduction. The timing of how that comes in is where it's a bit choppy from a cash flow perspective. So we'll make sure to update that as soon as we have more information. Operator00:47:47Thank you. And our next question comes from Steve Barger with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please state your question. Steve BargerManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:47:55Hey, thanks. Good afternoon. Giel, with seven quarters of automotive declines, it just seems strange that that's all inventory. Are there any customers or product lines across ADAS or infotainment or electrification that seem to be getting desourced or cannibalized, or is this really chasing down inventory and demand levels? Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:48:21Yeah, that's a good question, Steve. I mean, if we look at the seven quarters decline in a row, and I mentioned that in my prepared remarks, it is mostly the mainstream portfolio. If we take the advanced packaging portfolio, we see more strength there even in an overall declining automotive and industrial market that's still stable to up year on year. So we believe that ADAS, infotainment, in-car networking continues to be a growth area, and also the inventory level is less prominent than on the mainstream products. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:49:07I think the mainstream products, if I look at the latest reporting of our top six automotive customers, they see a gradual decline in the excess inventory, and they believe that during 2025, first half, that would be stable. After that, we would go into a mode where inventory gets replenished. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:49:36Now, while we were overshooting delivering product into that inventory after COVID, currently the end customers, the automotive customers, are probably undershooting a little bit because they go back to a very lean inventory level, and so but we expect that situation will turn, so step back on the advanced products, inventory is much less, and we keep that business running, and we see upsides in 2025. The main declines are on the mainstream products, mostly wire bond, leadframe products, still significant volume also on microcontrollers that go into automotive, but certainly also in industrial applications, and that will take longer, and although it's still vague what 2025 will bring, there is optimism at our customer base. Steve BargerManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:50:34That's really great detail. Thank you. Can you tell us what percentage of automotive is advanced products now, or what percentage is flat to up versus the stuff that's more challenged? Steve BargerManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:50:48We generally don't report it, but I would say the mainstream product is still more than 50%, although advanced product is ramping up much quicker than mainstream. As a rough estimate, let's say 60-40, that would be what it was with 40 being advanced products and 60 our mainstream portfolio. Steve BargerManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:51:13Got it. And then just a quick follow-up. I know test has become a more important part of your business, and I imagine 2.5D was the driver of that. So how has your outlook for test or utilization rates changed, or are you seeing other areas of the business ramp where test intensity is increasing? Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:51:34Yes. Good question. We see test clearly as an area of opportunity. If we take our communication business, then we have a very high test attach rate. So the products that we are assembling, we're also testing. That's also the case for automotive. For some other areas, we have less test attach rate, but we're definitely investing in that. We believe that there is a high, maybe too high concentration of tests in Taiwan currently, with the test houses being there, etc., and feedback that we're getting out of the supply chain is that that's considered to be a risk, so we're actively working to find, let's say, a test location and test capacity that can accommodate an expanding, specifically compute supply chain where there's a high concentration in Taiwan, so yes, test is important. We're actively working on expanding that, and then most prominently in the compute segment. Operator00:52:44Thank you. And at this time, I'm showing no further questions. I would like to turn the call back over to Giel for closing remarks. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:52:52Thank you. Thanks for all the questions. Let me recap the key messages. 2024 met our expectations, except for the prolonged weakness in the automotive and industrial end markets. We set record revenue for computing and advanced SiP . For full year 2025, we expect a stronger than seasonal second half, driven by content recovery in the next generation of iOS phones. We continue to invest in our technology leadership, expanding our global footprint, and partnerships with industry leaders. Thank you for joining the call. Operator00:53:32Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesMegan FaustCFOGiel RuttenCEOJennifer JueVP and Head of Investor RelationsAnalystsRandy AbramsResearch Analyst at UBSToshiya HariVP of Investor Relations and Strategic Finance at NvidiaCraig EllisDirector of Research, Senior Semiconductor, and Capital Equipment Analyst at B. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Amkor Technology Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2024 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Diego, and I will be your conference facilitator today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's remarks, we will conduct the question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Jennifer Jue, Head of Investor Relations. Ms. Jue, please go ahead. Jennifer JueVP and Head of Investor Relations at Amkor Technology00:00:31Thank you, Operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us for Amkor's Fourth Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Joining me today are Giel Rutten, our Chief Executive Officer, and Megan Faust, our Chief Financial Officer. Our earnings press release was filed with the SEC this afternoon and is available on the Investor Relations page of our website, along with the presentation slides that accompany today's call. During this presentation, we will use non-GAAP financial measures, and you can find the reconciliation to the U.S. GAAP equivalent on our website. We will make forward-looking statements about our expectations for Amkor's future performance based on the environment as we currently see it. Of course, actual results could differ. Please refer to our press release and SEC filings for information on risk factors, uncertainties, and exceptions that could cause actual results to differ materially from these expectations. Jennifer JueVP and Head of Investor Relations at Amkor Technology00:01:34Please note that the financial results discussed today are preliminary, and final data will be included in our Form 10-K, and now, I'll turn the call over to Giel. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:01:46Thank you, Jennifer. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining the call today. Amkor delivered fourth-quarter results in line with guidance, with revenue of $1.63 billion and EPS of $0.43. For the full year 2024, revenue was $6.3 billion, a 3% decline from the previous year. The year met our expectations, except for the weakness in the automotive and industrial end markets, where we had expected improvement in the second half. During the year, we achieved several significant milestones. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:02:25Advanced packaging revenue increased 3% year-over-year, and advanced SiP reached a record of $3.1 billion. The computing end market reached a record of $1.2 billion, driven by growth in PCs and 2.5D technology for AI GPUs. We qualified our new Vietnam facility and ran production for System in Package and memory devices. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:02:55We solidified our U.S. manufacturing strategy and secured $407 million in CHIPS funding to support our planned Arizona facility, and we expanded our partnership with TSMC to support advanced packaging in the U.S. and with Infineon to support power modules in Europe. Despite the dynamic macro environment and short-term challenges, we remained focused on strengthening our technology leadership in advanced packaging, expanding our global footprint, and partnering with lead customers in growth markets. Now, let me discuss each of our end markets. In the fourth quarter, revenue in our communications end market declined 25% sequentially due to a change in build pattern for new iOS phones and temporary lower content in the latest iOS phone due to an SiP socket that we are not participating in. This socket gap drove the 7% decline in our total communication revenue for the full year 2024. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:04:07The iOS revenue decline was slightly offset by Android growth of 9% for the full year. For 2025, we expect our communications business to be muted in the first half, followed by above-seasonal growth in the second half. We're closely collaborating with our strategic customer and are confident in recovering the SiP socket in the next generation iOS phones. We expect continued improvement in Android revenue and are projecting total communication revenue to be flat year on year. Revenue in our computing end market increased 13% sequentially and 16% for the full year to record levels. Strong demand for AI GPUs and ramping programs supporting Arm-based PCs led to the growth, while weakness in traditional servers and networking dampened upside. Within the past few weeks, dynamics within the AI data center supply chain have impacted our 2.5D growth expectations for the year. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:05:18The accelerated transition to a new AI GPU product family, together with new trade restrictions, has resulted in an adjusted near-term outlook. We expect to continue running volume for 2.5D AI GPUs, but at a lower level than previously anticipated. As we navigate these dynamics, we remain confident in our project pipeline, including our new 2.5D customer that continues to ramp volume, and our first programs on the next generation RDL interposer technology, which started low-volume production. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:05:56The uncertain geopolitical environments limit visibility for the full year. However, we expect our computing end market to show mild growth for the full year. In the fourth quarter, revenue in our automotive and industrial end market declined 8% sequentially, missing our flat to mild growth expectations. Customer forecasts deteriorated throughout the quarter due to macro weakness and tight inventory control. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:06:30For the full year, the automotive and industrial end market declined 16% compared to 2023, and we have experienced seven quarters in a row of year-on-year declines. From our peak in 2022, revenue has declined nearly $300 million, primarily due to declines in mainstream products. For 2025, we expect advanced packaging programs in automotive to grow in the mid-teens % and remain optimistic about the recovery in our mainstream portfolio, although the timing is uncertain. Overall, we anticipate softness in the first part of the year and mild full-year growth. Revenue in our consumer end market increased 10% for full year 2024, driven by the ramp of a new hearable program utilizing advanced SiP technology. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:07:26This program helped to offset headwinds in other traditional consumer applications, and revenue in the fourth quarter remained relatively steady after a steep ramp in the third quarter.For 2025, we expect mild growth driven by a full year of production for the hearable program and modest improvements in traditional consumer programs. Now, I will turn to our first quarter outlook. For Q1, we expect revenue of $1.275 billion, reflecting a year-on-year decline of 7%, primarily due to the temporary socket gap in the current iOS phones. For full year 2025, we foresee a muted first half followed by a strong second half, driven by the content recovery in the next generation of iOS phones. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:08:22With each of the end markets expected to be flat to slightly up, we expect total company revenue to be flat to low single-digit growth for the year. With that, I will now turn the call over to Megan to provide more detailed financial information. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:08:42Thank you, Giel, and good afternoon, everyone. Fourth quarter financial performance met expectations with all financial metrics within our guidance range. Revenue of $1.63 billion declined more than seasonal sequentially, primarily due to our communications end markets, as well as prolonged weakness in the automotive and industrial end market. Fourth quarter gross profit was $247 million, and gross margin was 15.1%. Gross margin increased 50 basis points from Q3, primarily due to a change in product mix with a lower proportion of advanced SiP . Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:09:27Our gross margin is also being impacted by the ramp of our new Vietnam facility. In Q4, this had approximately 80 basis points of burden. Operating expenses for the quarter came in lower than expected at $112 million, partially due to lower incentive compensation. Operating income was $134 million, and operating income margin was 8.3%. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:09:59Favorable foreign currency partially offset higher-than-expected taxes, resulting in net income for the fourth quarter of $106 million, or EPS of $0.43. Fourth quarter EBITDA was $302 million, and EBITDA margin was 18.5%. Now, let's turn to our full year 2024 performance. Revenue of $6.3 billion was down 3% year-on-year. Due to the prolonged cycle and low utilization, the manufacturing teams strictly adhered to cost containment measures to maintain profitability. Gross profit for the year was $933 million, and gross margin was 14.8%. Operating income was $438 million, and operating margin was 6.9%. Our full-year effective tax rate was 17.5%. Net income for the year was $354 million, resulting in EPS of $1.43. EBITDA was $1.1 billion, and EBITDA margin was 17.3%. Amkor has exhibited strict financial discipline. CapEx for 2024 was $744 million and 11.8% capital intensity. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:11:36We focused our investments on expanding capacity for 2.5D in Korea and for advanced SiP in both Korea and Vietnam. Free cash flow for the full year was $359 million, demonstrating efficient working capital management and operational performance. We ended the year with $1.6 billion of cash and short-term investments and total liquidity of $2.3 billion. Our total debt as of the end of the quarter is $1.2 billion, and our debt-to-EBITDA ratio is 1.1 times. Moving on to our first quarter outlook, we anticipate revenue of approximately $1.275 billion, representing a year-on-year decline of 7%. With the underutilization expected across our factories and the burden associated with our new Vietnam facility as it ramps scale, profitability will be constrained. We expect gross margin to be between 10% and 13%. We expect Q1 operating expenses of around $120 million. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:12:56We expect our full-year effective tax rate to increase to around 20% due to new global tax regulations. First quarter net income is expected to be $23 million at the midpoint of guidance, resulting in EPS of $0.09. Our CapEx forecast for 2025 is $850 million, of which 5%-10% is estimated for our new advanced packaging facility in Arizona. Amkor has demonstrated resilience in this dynamic environment, and we are proud of the milestones we reached in 2024. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:13:38Strengthened our technology portfolio in advanced packaging for 2.5D and advanced SiP. Expanded our broad geographic footprint by successfully beginning production in Vietnam and securing CHIPS funding for our planned US manufacturing location, and enhanced partnerships with industry leaders in growth markets. With that, we will now open the call up for your questions. Operator. Operator00:14:11Thank you, and at this time, we will be conducting the question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Once again, to ask a question, press star one on your telephone keypad. Our first question comes from Toshiya Hari with Goldman Sachs. Please state your question. Toshiya HariManaging Director at Goldman Sachs00:14:53Hi. Good afternoon. Thank you so much for taking the question. Maybe one for Giel on the communications business. You talked a little bit about the lower content in sort of the iPhone and the impact it had, and then I guess your expectation for that to come back later in 2025. I guess what well, first of all, I guess if you can clarify or confirm how significant the hit was from that in the most recent quarter, that would be really helpful. And then what gives you the confidence that you or your partner can indeed sort of regain that content in the back half of the year? Thanks. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:15:33Toshiya. Yeah, let me try to give you a bit of background on this SiP socket. First of all, the confidence to get back into this slot in the next generation. I mean, we have a long-standing track record with this lead customer of Amkor in bringing new technology and new products to market. We started the development of this new socket for next generation phone generation in already 2024.We prepared mass production, and we have a clear line of sight of the ramp that will happen in the third quarter of 2025. It was a strategic decision by the end customer to do it the way that we decided to do it because it was an important, let's say, changeover in their architecture of the phone. So in that sense, we have a clear line of sight. It is a significant impact. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:16:39So let's see, the Q4 impact would be roughly. Megan, can you help here? Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:16:47Yeah. So as far as the Q4 impact, Toshiya, really the build pattern was the bigger piece of the Q4 impact. The socket gap was the lesser of the two. As we look at Q1, I think the way to think about it is with our year-over-year decline of 7% as our guide for Q1, the biggest driver of that is communications. And so that's where the socket gap is notable, is in the year-over-year decline. Toshiya HariVP of Investor Relations and Strategic Finance at Nvidia00:17:22Got it. Thank you so much. And then as my follow-up, maybe one for Megan on the gross margin side of things. So you're guiding to 10%-13% in Q1. You went through the puts and takes as it pertains to Q1. But how should we think about the trajectory into Q2 in the back half? Vietnam, I assume, stays a headwind, but as volumes grow and mix evolves, how should we think about gross margins progressing as you move throughout 2025? Thank you. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:17:57Sure, so yeah, for our Q1 guide, that's going to follow a pretty traditional incremental flow-through as far as the math's concerned with our range that we provided for Q1. As we look out towards the remaining part of the year, I would still say our financial model does support the 30%-40% incremental flow-through. This has evolved from our previous incremental flow-through of 40%-50% given the lift in material content that's happened over the past five years. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:18:31Back in 2019, when we came out with that original model, we were at 40% material content, and today we're at 55%. So I would say 30%-40% is now the better financial model given our profile. As we look towards 2025, the way to think about that would be the same incremental flow-through.From a Vietnam perspective, that will have around 100 basis points burden in Q1, so that's incorporated into our guide. That is going to gradually reduce over the course of the year such that as we exit 2025, we will be at break-even operating income. So that will have less of an impact on the full year. Operator00:19:24Thank you. And our next question comes from Joe Moore with Morgan Stanley. Please state your question. Joe MooreSemiconductor Industry Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:19:31Great. Thank you. I guess you talked about autos eroding over the course of the quarter, but you also talked about your optimism for 2025. Can you just give us a sense for what gives you the confidence in that growth? What are the specific package types that can offset the macro weakness that we're seeing? Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:19:51Joe, hi. This is Giel. You were referring specifically to one specific market? Joe MooreSemiconductor Industry Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:19:56Yes, to automotive. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:19:58To automotive. Well, the automotive market in the fourth quarter disappointed us because we were expecting a single-digit improvement in the fourth quarter, but it came in significantly lower at 6% below our previous quarter. So that's disappointing. Now, going forward, if we take our project pipeline in automotive, we see strength in the advanced packaging for automotive, specifically for ADAS devices, in-car networking, and infotainment, where we have strength with the, let's say, newcomers as well as the incumbent player for advanced packaging. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:20:48So in that sense, we have a strong project pipeline, and that builds confidence that 2025 will be, let's say, a flat year in automotive. For our mainstream products, now the line of sight is not that clear. It declined significantly over last year, but we believe that we reached the trough. That's at least the feedback that we're getting from our customers.We expect a gradual improvement for our mainstream portfolio, although visibility is still very vague. Joe MooreSemiconductor Industry Analyst at Morgan Stanley00:21:31Very helpful. Thank you. Operator00:21:35Your next question comes from Peter Peng with JPMorgan Chase & Company. Please state your question. Peter PengVP of Equity Research at JPMorgan Chase & Co00:21:41Hi. Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe if you can spend a little bit of time talking about the dynamic at your marquee customer, and then more importantly, as that customer ramps down given the Blackwell rollout, how are you expecting to kind of backfill that with either maybe expanding more customers, etc.? Maybe if you can just spend some time on that dynamic. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:22:08Yeah. Good point, Peter. Let me try to explain to you the dynamics here. I mean, in the broader sense in the compute market, we see that as an important market for us with a significant opportunity for growth over the next couple of years. So in the AI market, specifically for AI GPUs, we still see, let's say, the second generation being introduced now. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:22:35And for a couple of reasons, we see our 2.5D business to be below expectation in the first quarter of 2025, specifically related by the accelerated ramp of the next generation GPU family. And then the second element there is these China restrictions that came in by the end of 2024, and that had impact on several devices that we were planning to ramp in the first quarter and the second quarter. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:23:12Now, next to these, I would call it short-term dynamics. We are confident in our overall project and customer pipeline. We are ramping with our second customer in 2.5D in the first quarter. That's ongoing. We're also expanding our technology portfolio to RDL-based technologies. We have two devices ramping up, of which one is already in production in the first quarter, and we have a strong project pipeline going forward in further, let's say, AI-based technology. Now, if we look to the next generation GPU devices that are currently in a bridge-based technology, we consider ourselves their technology follower, not a technology leader, and we work on that technology in R&D, and we have several engagements with more than one customer to bring that into production in 2026. Peter PengVP of Equity Research at JPMorgan Chase & Co00:24:20Got it. Okay. Thank you. And then maybe even just talk about how you're thinking about OpEx spending through the year, just given the more muted revenue expectations? Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:24:34Okay. I'll leave that to Megan. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:24:36Hi, Peter. Yeah. So Q4 OpEx did come in lower than we expected. As we're looking at Q1, we're expecting that to increase mainly for your seasonal reset of incentive comp. From a full year, I would anticipate total OpEx being pretty similar to 2024. We are going to continue to invest in our technology roadmap as well as other technology surrounding power modules.So we're anticipating similar. That would also include continued strict headcount control, reduction of discretionary and travel spend, and deferral of other projects to maintain a lower level of OpEx similar to what we achieved in 2024. Peter PengVP of Equity Research at JPMorgan Chase & Co00:25:23Great. Thank you, guys. Operator00:25:27Our next question comes from Craig Ellis with B. Riley Securities. Please state your question. Craig EllisDirector of Research, Senior Semiconductor, and Capital Equipment Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:25:33Yeah. Thank you very much for taking the question. I'll stick within compute to start it off. What I was hoping to understand is if we look at the real strong growth within the segment in 2024, how much of that came from AI PCs versus GPU-based systems? And as you look at 2025, how would you expect those different opportunities to contribute to the growth that you expect? Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:26:06Thanks, Craig. Let me start with the growth in GPUs for AI data centers. We would consider that the major part of the growth that we have seen in 2024, that was within the 2.5D technologies. And there we invested in, we ramped that, and we were able to quadruple that revenue for 2.5D in 2024 according to plan. So that was the major part of our record year in our compute market. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:26:43Now, we see that market still continue as a good potential going forward. We're diversifying our customer base. We're diversifying our technology base. And we have a significant install base on capacity and capabilities in order to diversify our business beyond the current customer base. If we take the segment of AI-based PCs, then we have a couple of customers that are introducing new products there. Some customers are more successful than others. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:27:23But I believe that that's still an emerging segment where we are well positioned. We have products in the market currently with two lead customers in that market. There are fabless companies. So in that sense, we see further growth going forward, certainly when AI moves to edge devices like PCs, but ultimately also to smartphones. Craig EllisDirector of Research, Senior Semiconductor, and Capital Equipment Analyst at B. Riley Securities00:27:52That's really helpful, Giel Rutten. And the follow-up question is one that's less a modeling question and more a new program question. So in 2024, it was impressive because the company had Arm-based PCs and AI and a very good wearables program, and those benefited multiple segments. And as you look at 2025, clearly there's an opportunity to recapture some SiP share. And it seems like there's the foundation for continued growth in AI. But as we look at the company-specific things that will benefit Amkor, how would you set that list? And if you were to rank order it, how would it look? One through four, one through five. Thank you. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:28:43Yeah. Let me scan through the opportunities as we see it, Craig. I mean, let's start with communication. We already covered that. Now, regaining the SiP socket in the next generation phone is critical. That will not initiate growth. We expect a flat communication year, although we see some more recovery in the Android side, but we currently plan for a flat communication year. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:29:13If we take automotive in the previous, let's say, question, I covered that. We definitely see upsides on the advanced products in automotive, both for ADAS as well as infotainment. With key customers there, we have a strong pipeline. And we also see that next-generation products are being introduced, and that will refresh that pipeline to the market. And that will materialize in revenue in 2025. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:29:45Mainstream products in automotive stays a little bit vague, and that also includes our power and power modules going into that market. The EV market is a little bit soft at this moment, but there is definitely hope and feedback from customers that even on the mature side of automotive, we will see recovery during the year. Not a breakthrough, but at least we now have seen almost three years in a row of decline, and we hope that we see a flat to slightly up year in 2025. Now, then move into the compute segment. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:30:25We have many, let's say, opportunities going forward. There's also a significant uncertainty because this is the segment that is being hit by recent China restrictions. We had a strong pipeline there. And currently, we discount these devices because of that uncertainty. We didn't want to include that in our planning. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:30:57On the 2.5D and also on the RDL-based technology, we definitely see upsides, but we are conservative to call that a growth year. We currently see this as a, let's say, slightly up, worst-case a flat year for 2025. And last but not least, the consumer market. We expect that the current program will run for the full year 2025, and that will contribute to a flat to slightly up year. Again, also significant uncertainty on the more mature products still. So we're guiding quite conservative there for the full year, and we take a conservative look. So all in all, there are no breakout opportunities, but at least I would say we have a solid project pipeline going into all the market segments. Operator00:31:57Thank you. And your next question comes from Randy Abrams with UBS. Please state your question. Randy AbramsResearch Analyst at UBS00:32:03Yes. Hi there. Thank you. My first question, I actually wanted to touch on the CapEx where you're guiding to 2025. And I know you said you have some for Vietnam. But given that conservative outlook, maybe go through on the remaining piece where the allocation of spend and priorities between test assembly or any other special investment, I think you mentioned on the power module side. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:32:27Yeah. I'll leave that to Megan to cover this, Randy. Thanks for the question. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:32:33Hi, Randy. Our target is $850 million. I think I heard you say $825. Randy AbramsResearch Analyst at UBS00:32:40That's right. That's right. 850. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:32:42I wanted to clarify that, and so how that rolls out, about 70% of that is intended for capacity and capability, and the primary areas are in the high-performance computing market. We're intending to spend similar dollars on our high-performance computing for leading-edge technology, so the next generation of RDL and bridge technology as we work on those next generations. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:33:12The second area would be advanced SiP , and then the third largest would be test, so following that capacity and capability, we have about 25% on facilities and construction, and that's a little bit more elevated than what our historical intensity would be, but that is because we're allocating about 5 to 10% for our Arizona facility, and then the last 5% is on quality and R&D. We have earmarked certain investments for quality, including automation in our factories. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:33:48I did want to point out that the CHIPS funding that would be tied to some of these investments is tied to certain milestones, and so the timing of receipt for those is uncertain and is not incorporated into those guides. We do not expect to receive material grants in 2025 given those milestones. Randy AbramsResearch Analyst at UBS00:34:12Okay. Good color on that. I actually wanted to ask because of a lot of commentary in the market on tariffs affecting a few areas. First, if you're seeing any pull-ins, there's been some talk on the consumer side, but also given Mexico, Canada, if anything happening on automotive. So that's one if it's affecting timing of shipments. Second is on shifts. There's some talk about whether Taiwan gets a tariff. And if you're seeing any potential customer engagement or swing where that's a way to bypass tariff if you shift assembly. So curious on geographic shift if there could be any swings for your business from that side too. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:35:01Randy, let me make a few remarks on tariffs. I mean, currently, the impact is a little bit vague still because the tariff situation is not really well defined yet. Short term, we don't expect significant impact. I mean, the impact that you refer to in automotive, we currently don't see that. We believe that there is still about three-month inventory in the supply chain, which is still an elevated inventory level. And so I don't expect any constraints there driving short-term impact on prices. Now, with respect to Taiwan, it's difficult to say. I cannot comment to that, but I didn't hear any specifics here. On the other hand, what we saw is a significant impact on the latest rulemaking of the U.S. administration that came in December 2024 and December 2025. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:36:07I already referred to that with respect to the export of certain products into China related to AI. That's significantly stricter than before, where products that were allowed to be exported are now on the list of limited or restricted exported products. Also, we see that in the OSAT environment and in the foundry environment, there is a discrimination between approved companies and design companies and approved OSAT. And that took quite a bit of work on our side to look at the compliance. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:36:52But I feel that could, to some extent, work in our benefit, although there is still uncertainty going forward. So a bit of uncertainty and difficult to say what the specifics will be, Randy. Operator00:37:09Thank you. Your next question comes from Charles Shi with Needham. Please state your question. Charles Shi from Needham, your line is open. You're going to mute yourself. Charles ShiManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Needham00:37:26Hi. Operator00:37:26Move on. Go ahead. Charles ShiManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Needham00:37:28Yeah. I want to go back to the full-year outlook. You guys are expecting probably flat up a little bit for the full year given the slow start to the year, right? The Q1 down 7% year on year. It does seem to require some really above seasonal growth into the second half. But mind if you help us a little bit more here. What is the normal seasonality? Like in half of a half, maybe we can use that metric. And what's the expectation for that particular metric that would inform us that you're going to have above seasonal growth in the second half of the year? Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:38:12Yeah, Charles. That's a good question. Let me ask Megan to give you more details to increase your level of understanding. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:38:25Hi, Charles. Our seasonal pattern for the growth or for a typical year would be 45% in the first half and 55% in the second half. Given the dynamics happening within the communications market, where our first half will be muted, and I would say lower than seasonal, and with our confidence that we will regain that socket, it's going to amplify that first half, second half. I do want to. We've already given the flat to low single-digit growth for the full year. As you're looking at those models, that will require the second half growth to be quite considerable. It could even rise to the levels that were similar to Q4 2022. With that, you would be able to see how the shape of the year could be magnified even to a 40/60 pattern. Charles ShiManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Needham00:39:30That's very helpful. Maybe a question on regaining the socket with your high-end smartphone customer. So here, I think you mentioned you do have the line of sight for that particular socket to be going into production in maybe Q3, sounds like, this year. So how confident you are in terms of that particular socket will definitely go into this year's model? Because, well, we did have a little bit of surprise last year, right? Heading into Q3 and Q4. And what's your confidence level right now for regaining that particular socket? Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:40:17Yeah, the confidence level is high. Charles, I already mentioned before that we have a long-standing track record with this customer to bring new technology to the market. There's a clear cooperation model with strict milestones that are identified, and also the preparation for mass production in the third quarter, that timing and that plan, and let's say the milestones for mass production are well defined, so as I mentioned before, this was a strategic decision of the end customer. We're confident, and all the indications that we get with respect to project execution as well as mass production milestones are pointing that we are ready for Q3 2025 ramp for this product. Charles ShiManaging Director and Senior Analyst at Needham00:41:16Thank you. Operator00:41:20Our next question comes from Tom Diffely with DA Davidson. Please state your question. Tom DiffelyDirector of Institutional Research at DA Davidson00:41:25Yeah. Good afternoon. Appreciate the chance to ask a question. Giel, I wanted to talk a little bit more about the high-end compute market. Obviously, you ramped up very quickly over the last year and a half, your 2.5D capability or capacity. And I'm curious, when you look at moving to the next generation package type, is that going to require just an upgrade to your existing capacity, or is that completely new capacity, and then you have to backfill the old 2.5D with new clients? Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:41:56Yeah, that's a good question, Tom. Actually, we mentioned in our last earnings call that the investments that we did in 2024 was to a high extent fungible capacity. And that means that it can be used in a broader sense for wafer-based technologies. And we include there 2.5D, we include RDL-based technologies, and in the next step also in, let's say, a bridge technology for next-generation devices. So it's a fungible technology. And we proved that also now that with limited volumes, or we adjusted our volumes for 2.5D, it enables us to ramp the devices that we currently have in RDL-based technology. We ramp that up in parallel. So yeah, I think that's how we see it at this point in time, Tom. Tom DiffelyDirector of Institutional Research at DA Davidson00:43:00So when you look at the $850 million in CapEx, that's going to increase overall capacity, not just transform it into the newer capacity then? Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:43:11That's how we see it. I mentioned before we have a broad project pipeline. We're also seeing the opportunity in the AI data centers to broaden beyond, I would say, the main GPU in data centers. And that goes into a domain like CPUs and networking in data centers. They all use advanced packaging technologies. So our project pipeline is not only related to the GPUs, but definitely expands into other devices that go into data centers. Tom DiffelyDirector of Institutional Research at DA Davidson00:43:54Okay. Thank you. That's very helpful. And as a follow-up, Megan, I was wondering if you could give some more specifics about what is behind the tax rate from 2024 to 2025? Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:44:06Sure, Tom. It's related to the Pillar Two and how that is being adopted at specific jurisdictions. So we're anticipating a couple percentage impact to our effective tax rate for the full year. Tom DiffelyDirector of Institutional Research at DA Davidson00:44:24Okay. I appreciate your time. Operator00:44:28Thank you. And our next question comes from Steven Fox with Fox Advisors. Please state your question. Steven FoxFounder and CEO at Fox Advisors00:44:35Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for all the colors so far. I was just wondering if there's a way just to step back from all the program-specific color that you provided just to talk about the state of some of the broader markets, what you're assuming happens in the second half, specifically on edge devices, AI PCs, and smartphones, and on the more traditional auto markets that you're serving. Then I had a follow-up. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:45:06Steven, that's a very good question, but that doesn't make it an easy question to answer. We believe that AI will continue over the next years to provide opportunities. It started off with opportunities in devices that were used for training, and we now go into inference, and then we go to edge devices. We also see applications being launched also in the edge devices, like in PCs, but also in smartphones recently with applications in the iOS phones, but also in the Android phones already. So all of that will drive an upgrade on the hardware side and upgrades on the hardware side. Ultimately, we believe that that will drive an upside for semiconductors in general. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:46:04We believe in that pipeline with our technology base, with our at-scale capacity, and with our partnership network, including feeding into the foundries, that we are well positioned to capture these opportunities over the next couple of years. Steven FoxFounder and CEO at Fox Advisors00:46:23Fair enough. Sorry, I didn't mean to put you on the spot like that. And then just as a follow-up, can you just give us a sense for when you would expect to start receiving the CHIPS Act grants, not exactly month, but just sort of how many quarters into the capacity expansion would you start hitting the hurdles to receive funding back from the US government? Thanks. Megan FaustCFO at Amkor Technology00:46:50Hi, Steven. So with respect to how the grants are outlined, they're attached to certain milestones during the project. So as we start our construction and as we move into 2026, we'll be able to give you a better feel for that. I think what's important to keep in mind is what our total investment for that project is expected to be. And that's over three to five years. We've shared that that could be about $2 billion. And between the CHIPS grant as well as investment tax credits combined, that together could be about $800 million in reduction. The timing of how that comes in is where it's a bit choppy from a cash flow perspective. So we'll make sure to update that as soon as we have more information. Operator00:47:47Thank you. And our next question comes from Steve Barger with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please state your question. Steve BargerManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:47:55Hey, thanks. Good afternoon. Giel, with seven quarters of automotive declines, it just seems strange that that's all inventory. Are there any customers or product lines across ADAS or infotainment or electrification that seem to be getting desourced or cannibalized, or is this really chasing down inventory and demand levels? Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:48:21Yeah, that's a good question, Steve. I mean, if we look at the seven quarters decline in a row, and I mentioned that in my prepared remarks, it is mostly the mainstream portfolio. If we take the advanced packaging portfolio, we see more strength there even in an overall declining automotive and industrial market that's still stable to up year on year. So we believe that ADAS, infotainment, in-car networking continues to be a growth area, and also the inventory level is less prominent than on the mainstream products. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:49:07I think the mainstream products, if I look at the latest reporting of our top six automotive customers, they see a gradual decline in the excess inventory, and they believe that during 2025, first half, that would be stable. After that, we would go into a mode where inventory gets replenished. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:49:36Now, while we were overshooting delivering product into that inventory after COVID, currently the end customers, the automotive customers, are probably undershooting a little bit because they go back to a very lean inventory level, and so but we expect that situation will turn, so step back on the advanced products, inventory is much less, and we keep that business running, and we see upsides in 2025. The main declines are on the mainstream products, mostly wire bond, leadframe products, still significant volume also on microcontrollers that go into automotive, but certainly also in industrial applications, and that will take longer, and although it's still vague what 2025 will bring, there is optimism at our customer base. Steve BargerManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:50:34That's really great detail. Thank you. Can you tell us what percentage of automotive is advanced products now, or what percentage is flat to up versus the stuff that's more challenged? Steve BargerManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:50:48We generally don't report it, but I would say the mainstream product is still more than 50%, although advanced product is ramping up much quicker than mainstream. As a rough estimate, let's say 60-40, that would be what it was with 40 being advanced products and 60 our mainstream portfolio. Steve BargerManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:51:13Got it. And then just a quick follow-up. I know test has become a more important part of your business, and I imagine 2.5D was the driver of that. So how has your outlook for test or utilization rates changed, or are you seeing other areas of the business ramp where test intensity is increasing? Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:51:34Yes. Good question. We see test clearly as an area of opportunity. If we take our communication business, then we have a very high test attach rate. So the products that we are assembling, we're also testing. That's also the case for automotive. For some other areas, we have less test attach rate, but we're definitely investing in that. We believe that there is a high, maybe too high concentration of tests in Taiwan currently, with the test houses being there, etc., and feedback that we're getting out of the supply chain is that that's considered to be a risk, so we're actively working to find, let's say, a test location and test capacity that can accommodate an expanding, specifically compute supply chain where there's a high concentration in Taiwan, so yes, test is important. We're actively working on expanding that, and then most prominently in the compute segment. Operator00:52:44Thank you. And at this time, I'm showing no further questions. I would like to turn the call back over to Giel for closing remarks. Giel RuttenCEO at Amkor Technology00:52:52Thank you. Thanks for all the questions. Let me recap the key messages. 2024 met our expectations, except for the prolonged weakness in the automotive and industrial end markets. We set record revenue for computing and advanced SiP . For full year 2025, we expect a stronger than seasonal second half, driven by content recovery in the next generation of iOS phones. We continue to invest in our technology leadership, expanding our global footprint, and partnerships with industry leaders. Thank you for joining the call. Operator00:53:32Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesMegan FaustCFOGiel RuttenCEOJennifer JueVP and Head of Investor RelationsAnalystsRandy AbramsResearch Analyst at UBSToshiya HariVP of Investor Relations and Strategic Finance at NvidiaCraig EllisDirector of Research, Senior Semiconductor, and Capital Equipment Analyst at B. Riley SecuritiesSteven FoxFounder and CEO at Fox AdvisorsPeter PengVP of Equity Research at JPMorgan Chase & CoCharles ShiManaging Director and Senior Analyst at NeedhamSteve BargerManaging Director and Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital MarketsJoe MooreSemiconductor Industry Analyst at Morgan StanleyToshiya HariManaging Director at Goldman SachsTom DiffelyDirector of Institutional Research at DA DavidsonPowered by