NASDAQ:SHYF The Shyft Group Q4 2024 Earnings Report Profile The Shyft Group EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.05Consensus EPS $0.14Beat/MissMissed by -$0.09One Year Ago EPSN/AThe Shyft Group Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$201.43 millionExpected Revenue$211.90 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$10.47 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AThe Shyft Group Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2024Date2/20/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateThursday, February 20, 2025Conference Call Time8:30AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Company ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by The Shyft Group Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 20, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Proposed merger with Abby Schmidt to create a specialty vehicles leader, expected to deliver synergies, expanded product offerings, and a stronger North American footprint. Operational improvements drove significant profitability gains, with adjusted EBITDA margin rising to 6.2% (up 160 bps year-over-year) and segment margins also improving substantially. BlueArc EV trucks moved into production, fulfilling an initial 150-unit FedEx order and positioning the program for near breakeven in 2025 as more orders materialize. Backlogs in the Fleet Vehicles & Services and Specialty Vehicles segments fell 24.7% and 18.8% respectively, reflecting ongoing parcel and motorhome market softening. 2025 outlook forecasts sales of $870M–$970M, adjusted EBITDA of $62M–$72M, and adjusted EPS of $0.69–$0.92, with Q1 expected to reflect seasonal weakness and a recovery in H2. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallThe Shyft Group Q4 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning and welcome to the Shyft Group's fourth quarter and full year 2024 conference call and webcast. All participants will be in listen-only mode until the question and answer session of the conference call. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to introduce Randy Wilson, Vice President of Investor Relations and Treasury for the Shyft Group. Please go ahead. Randy WilsonVP of Investor Relations and Treasury at The Shyft Group00:00:32Good morning and thank you for joining us. Today you will hear from John Dunn, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Scott Ocholik, Interim Chief Financial Officer. Their prepared remarks will be followed by a question and answer session. Before we begin, please turn to slides two and three of the presentation for a safe harbor statement. Today's conference call contains forward-looking statements which are subject to risks that could cause actual results to be materially different from those expressed or implied. Primary risks that management believes can materially affect our results are identified in our Forms 10-K and 10-Q filed with the SEC. We will be discussing non-GAAP information and performance measures which we believe are useful in evaluating a company's operating performance. Reconciliations for these non-GAAP measures can be found in the conference call materials. Randy WilsonVP of Investor Relations and Treasury at The Shyft Group00:01:22We will begin with a business overview from John, followed by Scott's review of fourth quarter financial results and our 2025 outlook. John will finish up our presentation with an update on our pending merger with Aebi Schmidt. We'll then open the line for Q&A. Please turn to slide four and I'll turn it over to John who will begin today's prepared remarks. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:01:43Thank you, Randy, and good morning. Welcome to our earnings call, and we appreciate your interest in the Shyft Group. 2024 was an incredible year for our company. We made significant strides in advancing our strategy, delivered operational improvements, and achieved solid financial performance. In December, we announced a powerful next step in Shyft's journey. Our proposed merger with Aebi Schmidt, a leading global Specialty Vehicles company. Together, we will create a highly competitive Specialty Vehicles leader with enhanced scale, capabilities, and expertise, and deeper customer relationships as we combine the strengths of both companies. Let's kick off this morning with some highlights from the past year at the Shyft Group. The talented Shyft team has been highly engaged in implementing operational and commercial improvements throughout 2024, and we are seeing improved results. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:02:48We consistently improved our financial performance, driven by our intense focus on increasing operational and organizational efficiencies across our company. By leveraging a One Shyft mindset, we are streamlining our corporate structure and managing costs to deliver margin improvement. These efforts resulted in meaningful Adjusted EBITDA growth for the company, with margins of 6.2%, up 160 basis points year over year. Despite a soft parcel market, our Fleet Vehicles and Services business expanded margins to 7.2%, up 160 basis points year over year by driving operational performance. This is a testament to our team's strategic approach to controlling what they can control. Specialty Vehicles continued strong EBITDA margins, were supported by focused execution and steady demand for infrastructure truck bodies. Our balance sheet remained solid, with net leverage less than two times, allowing us the flexibility to invest in strategic initiatives that support our growth going forward. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:04:06This financial strength enables us to capture new opportunities and drive long-term success. Finally, we are pleased to bring Blue Arc to production as we successfully ship EV trucks to FedEx, which is an exciting milestone for our entire Shyft team. This achievement underscores our commitment to meeting the complex needs of our fleet partners and serving as their partner of choice as they transition to more sustainable fleet operations. Turning to slide five, we outline our operating framework, which has guided Shyft in 2024 as we drove improvements across our business. Strengthening talent, improving leadership training, and ensuring safety with our Mission Zero initiative, we reduced workplace injuries by 40% in 2024. Lean manufacturing and efficiency initiatives lowered costs and improved competitiveness in the market. In summary, we are proud of the work we have done this year, and I would like to thank our team. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:05:16Without their dedication and skill sets, our accomplishments would not be possible. I would now like to welcome Scott Ocholik to his first Shyft earnings call, and he will provide a detailed review of our financial results and 2025 outlook. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:05:36Thank you, John. First, I'd like to take a moment to introduce myself. I have been with Shyft for over five years, serving as the company's Chief Accounting Officer and Corporate Controller. I have over 25 years of experience in the global automotive supply and Specialty Vehicle markets, and I'm very excited to have the opportunity to be the Interim CFO here at Shyft. I look forward to meeting many of you over the next several weeks. With that said, please turn to slide seven, and I will start with an overview of our fourth quarter financial results. Overall, our team delivered meaningful improvement in profitability in the fourth quarter. Sales for the quarter were $201.4 million, down slightly from $202.3 million in the prior year. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:06:20Our GAAP net loss was $3.4 million, or $0.10 per share, compared to a net loss of $4.4 million, or $0.13 per share in the previous year. The net loss for the quarter was negatively impacted by $8.5 million of transaction costs related to the pending merger with Aebi Schmidt. On an adjusted basis, EBITDA was $15.9 million for the quarter, or 7.9% of sales, up from $2.3 million, or 1.1% of sales in the fourth quarter of 2023. These results include a $5.8 million of EV spend, which is down from $9.3 million in the prior year. Adjusted net income for the quarter was $5 million, and adjusted EPS increased to $0.15 per share compared to a loss of $900,000, or a negative $0.03 per share in the fourth quarter of 2023. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:07:19Please turn to slide eight, and I will walk through our results by operating segment. In the quarter, our Fleet Vehicles and Services segment achieved sales of $110.7 million, down 7% compared to $119 million a year ago, reflecting continued softness in walk-in vans offset by higher volumes in heavy upfits. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $12.1 million versus a loss of $2.6 million a year ago, with higher productivity offset by lower volume. Adjusted EBITDA margin improved to 10.9% of sales compared to a negative 2.2% in the fourth quarter of last year. This margin improvement speaks to the strength of our team and the operational achievements made throughout the year, despite the continued challenging environment for parcel demand. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:08:11SV backlog was $244.8 million at year-end, down 24.7% versus 2023, reflecting continued softness in parcel, but on a positive note, we did achieve market share gains in our walk-in van product line during these challenging times. Turning to Specialty Vehicles segment, our team closed out 2024 with profitability in line with prior year, as our infrastructure-focused vocational truck businesses delivered solid results, offsetting the ongoing market weakness in motorhome. Fourth quarter sales were $87.5 million, a 5% increase from $83.4 million in the prior year. Adjusted EBITDA was $16.6 million, or 19% of sales, compared to $19 million, or 22.8% of sales in the same period last year. This strong overall profitability was driven by the steady demand for infrastructure-related vocational trucks. SV backlog was $68.5 million at the end of the year, down 18.8% versus 2023. This was driven primarily by a decrease in motorhome orders. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:09:26Please turn to slide nine for our 2025 outlook. With our improved financial results and continued margin expansion this quarter, we are poised to continue this momentum into 2025. Our focus remains on driving growth and profitability improvement. We do, however, remain cautious as we enter 2025 on near-term demand for parcel and motorhome vehicles, as we expect the softness to persist through mid-year. We do anticipate a modest recovery in both the parcel and motorhome markets in the second half of the year. While continuing to be strong, we are also closely monitoring infrastructure spend and the potential impacts it may have on our vocational truck business. We expect year-over-year growth as Blue Arc production is underway and will reach near break-even profitability for the full year. Given these factors and notwithstanding further changes in the operating environment, we are introducing our 2025 outlook as follows. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:10:30We expect sales to be in the range of $870-$970 million. This includes approximately $50 million related to Blue Arc. Full-year adjusted EBITDA in the range of $62-$72 million. Consistent with historical patterns and seasonality, we expect a slow start to the year and anticipate the first quarter adjusted EBITDA to be in the low single digits. As we see a second-half recovery in our markets, we expect around 70% of full-year adjusted EBITDA to be delivered in the second half of the year. We expect adjusted EPS in the range of $0.69-$0.92 per share and free cash flow of $25-$30 million, up meaningfully on a year-over-year basis. This includes approximately $20 million of transaction-related cash expected to be paid during the year. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:11:24We remain committed to driving further improvements in our financial performance as our end markets recover, and we finalize the proposed merger with Aebi Schmidt. With that, I will turn it back over to John to provide an update on the merger. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:11:40Thanks, Scott, and please turn to slide 11. This proposed merger with Aebi Schmidt presents a compelling opportunity for our shareholders, customers, and employees. By bringing our businesses together, we are creating a differentiated leader in the Specialty Vehicles space with a robust presence in the North American market, where approximately 75% of our revenues will be generated. This strategic move positions us to capture growth opportunities in high-margin end markets, including commercial infrastructure. For our customers, the merger will provide a highly complementary and expanded suite of products and services driven by our unwavering focus on customer-centric innovation and deep customer relationships. For shareholders, the combined company will have a stronger financial profile and will drive value by capitalizing on synergies, expanding our product offerings, and leveraging our team's expertise. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:12:47Our people share a common commitment to operational excellence, customer focus, and innovation, making us confident in our collective success. We believe that this merger is in the best interest of our shareholders, customers, and team members. Now, turn to slide 12, and I will discuss the integration work, which is well underway. Since announcing the transaction, we have made solid progress towards completing the actions needed to close. In January, we provided data reinforcing the merger's value creation potential, including additional information on Aebi Schmidt's strong financial projections and market leadership. We achieved HSR antitrust approval and are making progress in other regulatory and closing conditions. We are leveraging both Shyft and Aebi Schmidt's strong track records of successfully integrating businesses and have established a joint integration team. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:13:51Overall, the steps we are taking are preparing our two companies to integrate seamlessly, and I look forward to providing more updates as we progress towards closing, which we expect by mid-2025. We are diligently working on integrating our businesses to capture the full potential of the combined company and deliver enhanced value for our shareholders on day one. We are now ready to take your questions. Operator, please open the line. Operator00:14:41We will open up the lines for questions in a moment. Please bear with me. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:16:13Matt, you're live. Operator, if you can please have Matt go live, please. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:16:19Hey, guys. I can hear you. Can you hear me okay? John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:16:22Great. Thank you. You're good, Matt. Thank you. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:16:25Okay. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:16:25Technical difficulty this morning, but appreciate your patience. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:16:28Yeah. Sorry, didn't hear my cue there. That's okay. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:16:33Okay. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:16:33Also, wanted to talk about the 2025 outlook with respect to Blue Arc. It sounds like you guys, I think I heard correctly in the prepared remarks, $50 million in sales embedded in the guide, and you should approach break-even on EBITDA this year. Just wanted to hear you talk about, do you have all orders in hand to deliver on the $50 million? Maybe just talk about the cadence of delivery this year. Any progress update on sort of the vehicles in the field with FedEx or other customers? Would love to hear a little bit more color on the program there. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:17:14Great, Matt. This is John. Give me an update on that. We are in the production phase, running vehicles a couple of days are coming off the line to fulfill our contract with FedEx. That was for 150 orders, so we're working through that order right now. The vehicles in the field continue to perform well and meet expectations. In addition to FedEx, we have demos running with a couple of other key customers, one of them up in Canada, so experiencing the cold climate, running, performing well, meeting all our expectations, so we're excited about the performance of the vehicle and getting it to the phase now where we can give it to customers to really use it. FedEx is deploying the vehicles we're making and continue to be very positive on it. If you're at LAX, for example, there's a couple out there right now in service. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:18:09From an order standpoint, it is a dynamic market right now as people are sorting out what to do on the EV. Fortunately, though, we see a lot of commitment from our key partners. The bigger fleets are still leaning into starting to transition to that more environmentally friendly solution of EVs. And from an order standpoint, we're seeing a lot of activity, confident that that'll continue to materialize. The big enabler here is to get these vehicles out on the road and people really see how well they work. And so the more vehicles on the road we have, the more positive experiences people have, the expectation is that will continue to lead to more orders. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:18:56Okay. But in terms of the orders you have in hand, do you have enough to fulfill the $50 million without incremental orders this year? John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:19:07No, we need additional orders. In that scenario, where Scott mentioned as well, we're striving to get to that break-even. To do that, we need to be. We can do it at under 500 orders, and we're not there yet. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:19:21Okay. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:19:21We're hoping to have another announcement shortly, but it's short of the full amount needed. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:19:29Okay. All right. Understood. Thanks. Okay. And then on the fleet vehicle segment, just wanted to hear a little bit more about what's embedded in the outlook for 2025. It sounds like you're assuming parcel demand recovery in the back half of this year. I know that's kind of come in fits and starts in terms of the prediction of recovery in that market. Maybe just talk about what gives you confidence that we're going to see a recovery in the parcel fleet demand this year. What are you hearing from customers, fleets in particular? Would love to hear an update on FedEx there. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:20:08We're staying very close with those key parcel customers, making sure we understand exactly their needs and their plans. The good news is they're not changing the concept on how they're delivering parcel packages to homes. So they still want these large vehicles that we make. So it's right in the wheelhouse. Because these vehicles are so robust, they're able to maintain them and kind of push it down some of those purchases or push out some of those purchases slightly. But what we see is they've been pushing that out for about two years now. Eventually, there's going to need to be a replacement cycle that kicks in, and it should be a nice one kicking in. It's just a matter of when. We're not seeing it yet, so that's why we're guiding and saying we're seeing it in the second half of the year. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:20:55But we're having good conversations with the customers to understand when is that going to happen, and there's indication it's going to happen in that second half of this year. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:21:07Okay. Got it. And then just on specialty vehicle, and then I'll turn it over to someone else. I guess the implied order flow was a little soft in specialty vehicle. Could you just speak to sort of what's driving that? Is that still motorhome that's driving the bulk of the weakness in the implied order flow that you're getting in that segment? What are you seeing on sort of the core work truck piece of the business? Maybe if you just unpack the order trends, Specialty Vehicles that'd be helpful. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:21:39Yeah, Matt, this is Scott. Thanks for the question. You're right. We're continuing to see the weakness in the motorhome market that's really driving the weakness there on that side of things. On the work truck side of our business, we're actually starting. It's been very steady. We're continuing to see strong orders there, and especially here in the first part of 2025, we're continuing to see strong orders. So we're expecting that to continue to be steady into 2025. So that's the main thing. On the motorhome side, the dealers, their inventories are at pre-pandemic levels now and lower than pre-pandemic levels. So I think they've got their inventories in place, and now they're, I think, just being a little more thoughtful on their planning on their inventory. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:22:34But we do anticipate the orders to pick up here as we move into the second half of the year on motorhome as well. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:22:43Okay. Got it. I'll turn it over to someone else. Thanks, guys. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:22:45Thanks, Matt. Operator, next question? Great. Thank you. Thanks, Matt. Operator00:22:50The next question is from Mike Shlisky with D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead. Michael ShliskyManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:22:57Yes. Hi there. Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. I want to start off if you want to comment quick. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:23:05Morning. Michael ShliskyManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:23:05Morning, guys. Your comments were about one of the drivers of growth or better trends in 2025. Sounds like infrastructure. If you're expecting to see some growth in infrastructure in 2025 at Shyft Group, would it be fair to say that from what you know that Aebi Schmidt will be growing its overall business as fast or faster than Shyft Group, given their greater focus on infrastructure in their mix? John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:23:39Thanks for the question, and I think that's one of the key aspects of this merger, bringing Aebi Schmidt together with The Shyft Group. We do have that upfit business, infrastructure-based, that we can really coordinate our activities, have a better footprint nationwide, and access to a broader range of customers, so we see that's one of the key points that's going to accelerate our growth. As to the specifics on what they're seeing right now, because we're still in the early phase of the merger, we're not really sharing that information, but we know that they have to be seeing similar activity and growth. Michael ShliskyManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:24:20Okay. Also, I just wanted to talk about the FVS margin results in the quarter. Pretty good swing there. We're talking 14-15 points from a negative to a positive over the prior year in the fourth quarter. How sustainable is that 11% EBITDA margin run rate at $110 million of sales? Is that on the curve of where FVS is currently running? John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:24:54Yeah. I think we're certainly seeing improvements in the FVS margins. We had some great operational efficiencies that we drove. So that's what you're seeing year over year to get to that low double-digit margins. And I think that's also consistent with where we've talked about getting those margins over the last several quarters. So yep, so we do expect to be able to maintain that low double digits in that space. And again, there's really high focus on operational efficiencies in that space. It's been helped us get there. Michael ShliskyManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:25:31Got it. Maybe one last one from me. I'm talking about tariff topics. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:25:39Thanks. Michael ShliskyManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:25:39Yeah. Oh, I have one other question. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:25:45Oh, go ahead, Mike. Michael ShliskyManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:25:46Oh, sure. I just wanted to ask about tariff impact. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:25:49Oh, yeah. We are. Yep. Tariff. Michael ShliskyManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:25:52Yeah. I wanted to ask you a little bit about what we should be thinking about at this stage as far as tariffs. I know it's still a bit of a fluid situation, but there are some aluminum tariffs out there. Do you have surcharges planned or any other potential changes to your pricing? Are there still kind of more flexible pricing arrangement as the tariff situation changes here in the first part of 2025 that might impact your business? John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:26:20Yeah. Mike, this is Scott. Let me start off there. So yeah, certainly, we've been evaluating the various scenarios relating to the tariffs and what's been put in place and the multiple other threats that are still out there. We implemented a supply chain strategy over the last couple of years that's really focused on helping us mitigate this risk. It includes the strategy of North American supply alternatives, right? So we do have plans in place to mitigate the impact, both through our partnerships with our suppliers as well as plans to increase prices where appropriate to help offset these impacts. But it is a very fluid situation, so we're watching it very closely to be able to understand these impacts, but it is a little early as things are continuing to move quickly day to day. Operator00:27:13The next question is from Tyler DiMatteo with BTIG. Please go ahead. Tyler DiMatteoVP and Analyst at BTIG00:27:21Hey, guys. Morning. Thanks for taking the questions. Appreciate the time. Wanted to follow up on. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:27:26Good morning. Tyler DiMatteoVP and Analyst at BTIG00:27:27The outlook for this year. Yeah. Yeah. Hey. Wanted to follow up real quick on the outlook here. I know the comments surrounding seasonality in the Q1. I guess what's maybe the magnitude of that? I mean, is it going to be similar to past? I know you kind of pointed to that, hey, low single-digit EBITDA and then 70% in the back half of the year. I guess I'm just curious the degree of the seasonality, and then I have a follow-up. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:27:56Sure. Yeah. I think it's going to be consistent with prior year, so if you look at 2024, we had a similar slow start to ramping up and a much stronger second half of the year. We're expecting that similar type of progression here this year. We do expect the benefit of our ITU acquisition as well as just the continued strength of the work truck space. We have talked about the fact that Blue Arc has moved into production now, which is going to help us from an overall cost spend perspective, but in this first quarter specifically, we are still seeing the weakness in the walk-in van and the motor home space, which is going to be a challenge for us this quarter, and I think why you're seeing that comment on the single-digit, low single digits in Q1. Tyler DiMatteoVP and Analyst at BTIG00:28:57Got it. Thank you, and then my follow-up here really surrounding maybe the service work and the upfitting pieces of business versus the core product, if you will. I guess in terms of the service piece and the infrastructure, I guess how has the approach to kind of service work from you guys and maybe going to customers, how has that strategy evolved as you go to win orders? I know obviously from a profitability perspective, you guys have done a really nice job of keeping that margin profile, but I guess if you think about your strategy and kind of how has that evolved over time? I guess maybe how much is it the same? How do you kind of think about that in terms of 2025? John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:29:45Specifically around those service bodies, our strategy continues to be to get that nationwide coverage. And so as the Royal is much more on the West Coast, DuraMag and aluminum's on the East Coast, we're bringing that together. You see that in our new Nashville area facility where we sell both products there. And so it's getting that nationwide coverage. And then through our new partners, ITU, for example, they now use either a Royal or DuraMag service body. So we're more vertically integrated there. And as we roll into the merger with Aebi Schmidt, there's just more opportunities there to get that vertical integration, really drive the overall sales of the service body business. So that's one of the key pieces that makes us excited about it. And in that merger, we've identified synergies. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:30:33A lot of that synergies and opportunities is coming together in that space for the upfit business supporting infrastructure. Tyler DiMatteoVP and Analyst at BTIG00:30:45Awesome. Thanks, guys. Appreciate the time. I'll turn it back to the queue. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:30:51Thanks, Tyler. Operator00:30:51This concludes the question and answer session. Mr. Wilson, I would like to turn the floor back over to you for closing comments. Randy WilsonVP of Investor Relations and Treasury at The Shyft Group00:31:03Thank you, Operator. I'd like to thank everyone for joining today's call. Management looks forward to connecting with the investment community at the NTEA Work Truck Week on March 5th and 6th in Indianapolis and at the Roth Conference in Dana Point, California on March 16th and 17th. As always, thank you for your interest in the Shyft Group, and please reach out to me if you have any follow-up questions. With that, Operator, please disconnect the call. Operator00:31:28The conference has been concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesJohn DunnPresident and CEORandy WilsonVP of Investor Relations and TreasuryScott OcholikInterim CFOAnalystsTyler DiMatteoVP and Analyst at BTIGMichael ShliskyManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at D.A. 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Email Address About The Shyft GroupThe Shyft Group (NASDAQ:SHYF) engages in the manufacture and assembly of specialty vehicles for the commercial and recreational vehicle industries in the United States and internationally. It operates in two segments, Fleet Vehicles and Services, and Specialty Vehicles. The Fleet Vehicles and Services segment offers commercial vehicles used in the e-commerce/last mile/parcel delivery, beverage and grocery delivery, laundry and linen, mobile retail, and trades and construction industries. This segment markets its commercial vehicles, including walk-in vans, cutaway vans, and truck bodies under the Aeromaster, Velocity, Trademaster, and Utilivan brands; and vocation-specific equipment upfit services under the Utilimaster Upfit Services and Strobes-R-Us brands. It also installs specialty interior and exterior up-fit equipment for walk-in vans, truck bodies, cargo vans, and light duty pick-up trucks; and provides aftermarket support, including parts sales and field services, as well as parts and accessories. The Specialty Vehicles segment provides diesel motor home chassis; and truck bodies under the Royal Truck Body and DuraMag brands. The segment also provides final assembly services for Isuzu N-gas and F-series chassis under the Builtmore Contract Manufacturing brand; and designs and installs custom lighting and upfit solutions for a range of specialty industries. In addition, this segment provides truck accessories under the Magnum brand; and a range of parts and accessories, and maintenance and repair services for its motorhome and specialty chassis. It sells its products to commercial users, original equipment manufacturers, dealers, individuals, municipalities, and other government entities. The company was formerly known as Spartan Motors, Inc. and changed its name to The Shyft Group, Inc. in June 2020. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning and welcome to the Shyft Group's fourth quarter and full year 2024 conference call and webcast. All participants will be in listen-only mode until the question and answer session of the conference call. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to introduce Randy Wilson, Vice President of Investor Relations and Treasury for the Shyft Group. Please go ahead. Randy WilsonVP of Investor Relations and Treasury at The Shyft Group00:00:32Good morning and thank you for joining us. Today you will hear from John Dunn, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Scott Ocholik, Interim Chief Financial Officer. Their prepared remarks will be followed by a question and answer session. Before we begin, please turn to slides two and three of the presentation for a safe harbor statement. Today's conference call contains forward-looking statements which are subject to risks that could cause actual results to be materially different from those expressed or implied. Primary risks that management believes can materially affect our results are identified in our Forms 10-K and 10-Q filed with the SEC. We will be discussing non-GAAP information and performance measures which we believe are useful in evaluating a company's operating performance. Reconciliations for these non-GAAP measures can be found in the conference call materials. Randy WilsonVP of Investor Relations and Treasury at The Shyft Group00:01:22We will begin with a business overview from John, followed by Scott's review of fourth quarter financial results and our 2025 outlook. John will finish up our presentation with an update on our pending merger with Aebi Schmidt. We'll then open the line for Q&A. Please turn to slide four and I'll turn it over to John who will begin today's prepared remarks. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:01:43Thank you, Randy, and good morning. Welcome to our earnings call, and we appreciate your interest in the Shyft Group. 2024 was an incredible year for our company. We made significant strides in advancing our strategy, delivered operational improvements, and achieved solid financial performance. In December, we announced a powerful next step in Shyft's journey. Our proposed merger with Aebi Schmidt, a leading global Specialty Vehicles company. Together, we will create a highly competitive Specialty Vehicles leader with enhanced scale, capabilities, and expertise, and deeper customer relationships as we combine the strengths of both companies. Let's kick off this morning with some highlights from the past year at the Shyft Group. The talented Shyft team has been highly engaged in implementing operational and commercial improvements throughout 2024, and we are seeing improved results. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:02:48We consistently improved our financial performance, driven by our intense focus on increasing operational and organizational efficiencies across our company. By leveraging a One Shyft mindset, we are streamlining our corporate structure and managing costs to deliver margin improvement. These efforts resulted in meaningful Adjusted EBITDA growth for the company, with margins of 6.2%, up 160 basis points year over year. Despite a soft parcel market, our Fleet Vehicles and Services business expanded margins to 7.2%, up 160 basis points year over year by driving operational performance. This is a testament to our team's strategic approach to controlling what they can control. Specialty Vehicles continued strong EBITDA margins, were supported by focused execution and steady demand for infrastructure truck bodies. Our balance sheet remained solid, with net leverage less than two times, allowing us the flexibility to invest in strategic initiatives that support our growth going forward. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:04:06This financial strength enables us to capture new opportunities and drive long-term success. Finally, we are pleased to bring Blue Arc to production as we successfully ship EV trucks to FedEx, which is an exciting milestone for our entire Shyft team. This achievement underscores our commitment to meeting the complex needs of our fleet partners and serving as their partner of choice as they transition to more sustainable fleet operations. Turning to slide five, we outline our operating framework, which has guided Shyft in 2024 as we drove improvements across our business. Strengthening talent, improving leadership training, and ensuring safety with our Mission Zero initiative, we reduced workplace injuries by 40% in 2024. Lean manufacturing and efficiency initiatives lowered costs and improved competitiveness in the market. In summary, we are proud of the work we have done this year, and I would like to thank our team. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:05:16Without their dedication and skill sets, our accomplishments would not be possible. I would now like to welcome Scott Ocholik to his first Shyft earnings call, and he will provide a detailed review of our financial results and 2025 outlook. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:05:36Thank you, John. First, I'd like to take a moment to introduce myself. I have been with Shyft for over five years, serving as the company's Chief Accounting Officer and Corporate Controller. I have over 25 years of experience in the global automotive supply and Specialty Vehicle markets, and I'm very excited to have the opportunity to be the Interim CFO here at Shyft. I look forward to meeting many of you over the next several weeks. With that said, please turn to slide seven, and I will start with an overview of our fourth quarter financial results. Overall, our team delivered meaningful improvement in profitability in the fourth quarter. Sales for the quarter were $201.4 million, down slightly from $202.3 million in the prior year. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:06:20Our GAAP net loss was $3.4 million, or $0.10 per share, compared to a net loss of $4.4 million, or $0.13 per share in the previous year. The net loss for the quarter was negatively impacted by $8.5 million of transaction costs related to the pending merger with Aebi Schmidt. On an adjusted basis, EBITDA was $15.9 million for the quarter, or 7.9% of sales, up from $2.3 million, or 1.1% of sales in the fourth quarter of 2023. These results include a $5.8 million of EV spend, which is down from $9.3 million in the prior year. Adjusted net income for the quarter was $5 million, and adjusted EPS increased to $0.15 per share compared to a loss of $900,000, or a negative $0.03 per share in the fourth quarter of 2023. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:07:19Please turn to slide eight, and I will walk through our results by operating segment. In the quarter, our Fleet Vehicles and Services segment achieved sales of $110.7 million, down 7% compared to $119 million a year ago, reflecting continued softness in walk-in vans offset by higher volumes in heavy upfits. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $12.1 million versus a loss of $2.6 million a year ago, with higher productivity offset by lower volume. Adjusted EBITDA margin improved to 10.9% of sales compared to a negative 2.2% in the fourth quarter of last year. This margin improvement speaks to the strength of our team and the operational achievements made throughout the year, despite the continued challenging environment for parcel demand. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:08:11SV backlog was $244.8 million at year-end, down 24.7% versus 2023, reflecting continued softness in parcel, but on a positive note, we did achieve market share gains in our walk-in van product line during these challenging times. Turning to Specialty Vehicles segment, our team closed out 2024 with profitability in line with prior year, as our infrastructure-focused vocational truck businesses delivered solid results, offsetting the ongoing market weakness in motorhome. Fourth quarter sales were $87.5 million, a 5% increase from $83.4 million in the prior year. Adjusted EBITDA was $16.6 million, or 19% of sales, compared to $19 million, or 22.8% of sales in the same period last year. This strong overall profitability was driven by the steady demand for infrastructure-related vocational trucks. SV backlog was $68.5 million at the end of the year, down 18.8% versus 2023. This was driven primarily by a decrease in motorhome orders. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:09:26Please turn to slide nine for our 2025 outlook. With our improved financial results and continued margin expansion this quarter, we are poised to continue this momentum into 2025. Our focus remains on driving growth and profitability improvement. We do, however, remain cautious as we enter 2025 on near-term demand for parcel and motorhome vehicles, as we expect the softness to persist through mid-year. We do anticipate a modest recovery in both the parcel and motorhome markets in the second half of the year. While continuing to be strong, we are also closely monitoring infrastructure spend and the potential impacts it may have on our vocational truck business. We expect year-over-year growth as Blue Arc production is underway and will reach near break-even profitability for the full year. Given these factors and notwithstanding further changes in the operating environment, we are introducing our 2025 outlook as follows. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:10:30We expect sales to be in the range of $870-$970 million. This includes approximately $50 million related to Blue Arc. Full-year adjusted EBITDA in the range of $62-$72 million. Consistent with historical patterns and seasonality, we expect a slow start to the year and anticipate the first quarter adjusted EBITDA to be in the low single digits. As we see a second-half recovery in our markets, we expect around 70% of full-year adjusted EBITDA to be delivered in the second half of the year. We expect adjusted EPS in the range of $0.69-$0.92 per share and free cash flow of $25-$30 million, up meaningfully on a year-over-year basis. This includes approximately $20 million of transaction-related cash expected to be paid during the year. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:11:24We remain committed to driving further improvements in our financial performance as our end markets recover, and we finalize the proposed merger with Aebi Schmidt. With that, I will turn it back over to John to provide an update on the merger. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:11:40Thanks, Scott, and please turn to slide 11. This proposed merger with Aebi Schmidt presents a compelling opportunity for our shareholders, customers, and employees. By bringing our businesses together, we are creating a differentiated leader in the Specialty Vehicles space with a robust presence in the North American market, where approximately 75% of our revenues will be generated. This strategic move positions us to capture growth opportunities in high-margin end markets, including commercial infrastructure. For our customers, the merger will provide a highly complementary and expanded suite of products and services driven by our unwavering focus on customer-centric innovation and deep customer relationships. For shareholders, the combined company will have a stronger financial profile and will drive value by capitalizing on synergies, expanding our product offerings, and leveraging our team's expertise. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:12:47Our people share a common commitment to operational excellence, customer focus, and innovation, making us confident in our collective success. We believe that this merger is in the best interest of our shareholders, customers, and team members. Now, turn to slide 12, and I will discuss the integration work, which is well underway. Since announcing the transaction, we have made solid progress towards completing the actions needed to close. In January, we provided data reinforcing the merger's value creation potential, including additional information on Aebi Schmidt's strong financial projections and market leadership. We achieved HSR antitrust approval and are making progress in other regulatory and closing conditions. We are leveraging both Shyft and Aebi Schmidt's strong track records of successfully integrating businesses and have established a joint integration team. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:13:51Overall, the steps we are taking are preparing our two companies to integrate seamlessly, and I look forward to providing more updates as we progress towards closing, which we expect by mid-2025. We are diligently working on integrating our businesses to capture the full potential of the combined company and deliver enhanced value for our shareholders on day one. We are now ready to take your questions. Operator, please open the line. Operator00:14:41We will open up the lines for questions in a moment. Please bear with me. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:16:13Matt, you're live. Operator, if you can please have Matt go live, please. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:16:19Hey, guys. I can hear you. Can you hear me okay? John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:16:22Great. Thank you. You're good, Matt. Thank you. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:16:25Okay. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:16:25Technical difficulty this morning, but appreciate your patience. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:16:28Yeah. Sorry, didn't hear my cue there. That's okay. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:16:33Okay. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:16:33Also, wanted to talk about the 2025 outlook with respect to Blue Arc. It sounds like you guys, I think I heard correctly in the prepared remarks, $50 million in sales embedded in the guide, and you should approach break-even on EBITDA this year. Just wanted to hear you talk about, do you have all orders in hand to deliver on the $50 million? Maybe just talk about the cadence of delivery this year. Any progress update on sort of the vehicles in the field with FedEx or other customers? Would love to hear a little bit more color on the program there. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:17:14Great, Matt. This is John. Give me an update on that. We are in the production phase, running vehicles a couple of days are coming off the line to fulfill our contract with FedEx. That was for 150 orders, so we're working through that order right now. The vehicles in the field continue to perform well and meet expectations. In addition to FedEx, we have demos running with a couple of other key customers, one of them up in Canada, so experiencing the cold climate, running, performing well, meeting all our expectations, so we're excited about the performance of the vehicle and getting it to the phase now where we can give it to customers to really use it. FedEx is deploying the vehicles we're making and continue to be very positive on it. If you're at LAX, for example, there's a couple out there right now in service. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:18:09From an order standpoint, it is a dynamic market right now as people are sorting out what to do on the EV. Fortunately, though, we see a lot of commitment from our key partners. The bigger fleets are still leaning into starting to transition to that more environmentally friendly solution of EVs. And from an order standpoint, we're seeing a lot of activity, confident that that'll continue to materialize. The big enabler here is to get these vehicles out on the road and people really see how well they work. And so the more vehicles on the road we have, the more positive experiences people have, the expectation is that will continue to lead to more orders. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:18:56Okay. But in terms of the orders you have in hand, do you have enough to fulfill the $50 million without incremental orders this year? John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:19:07No, we need additional orders. In that scenario, where Scott mentioned as well, we're striving to get to that break-even. To do that, we need to be. We can do it at under 500 orders, and we're not there yet. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:19:21Okay. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:19:21We're hoping to have another announcement shortly, but it's short of the full amount needed. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:19:29Okay. All right. Understood. Thanks. Okay. And then on the fleet vehicle segment, just wanted to hear a little bit more about what's embedded in the outlook for 2025. It sounds like you're assuming parcel demand recovery in the back half of this year. I know that's kind of come in fits and starts in terms of the prediction of recovery in that market. Maybe just talk about what gives you confidence that we're going to see a recovery in the parcel fleet demand this year. What are you hearing from customers, fleets in particular? Would love to hear an update on FedEx there. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:20:08We're staying very close with those key parcel customers, making sure we understand exactly their needs and their plans. The good news is they're not changing the concept on how they're delivering parcel packages to homes. So they still want these large vehicles that we make. So it's right in the wheelhouse. Because these vehicles are so robust, they're able to maintain them and kind of push it down some of those purchases or push out some of those purchases slightly. But what we see is they've been pushing that out for about two years now. Eventually, there's going to need to be a replacement cycle that kicks in, and it should be a nice one kicking in. It's just a matter of when. We're not seeing it yet, so that's why we're guiding and saying we're seeing it in the second half of the year. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:20:55But we're having good conversations with the customers to understand when is that going to happen, and there's indication it's going to happen in that second half of this year. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:21:07Okay. Got it. And then just on specialty vehicle, and then I'll turn it over to someone else. I guess the implied order flow was a little soft in specialty vehicle. Could you just speak to sort of what's driving that? Is that still motorhome that's driving the bulk of the weakness in the implied order flow that you're getting in that segment? What are you seeing on sort of the core work truck piece of the business? Maybe if you just unpack the order trends, Specialty Vehicles that'd be helpful. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:21:39Yeah, Matt, this is Scott. Thanks for the question. You're right. We're continuing to see the weakness in the motorhome market that's really driving the weakness there on that side of things. On the work truck side of our business, we're actually starting. It's been very steady. We're continuing to see strong orders there, and especially here in the first part of 2025, we're continuing to see strong orders. So we're expecting that to continue to be steady into 2025. So that's the main thing. On the motorhome side, the dealers, their inventories are at pre-pandemic levels now and lower than pre-pandemic levels. So I think they've got their inventories in place, and now they're, I think, just being a little more thoughtful on their planning on their inventory. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:22:34But we do anticipate the orders to pick up here as we move into the second half of the year on motorhome as well. Scott OcholikInterim CFO at The Shyft Group00:22:43Okay. Got it. I'll turn it over to someone else. Thanks, guys. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:22:45Thanks, Matt. Operator, next question? Great. Thank you. Thanks, Matt. Operator00:22:50The next question is from Mike Shlisky with D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead. Michael ShliskyManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:22:57Yes. Hi there. Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. I want to start off if you want to comment quick. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:23:05Morning. Michael ShliskyManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:23:05Morning, guys. Your comments were about one of the drivers of growth or better trends in 2025. Sounds like infrastructure. If you're expecting to see some growth in infrastructure in 2025 at Shyft Group, would it be fair to say that from what you know that Aebi Schmidt will be growing its overall business as fast or faster than Shyft Group, given their greater focus on infrastructure in their mix? John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:23:39Thanks for the question, and I think that's one of the key aspects of this merger, bringing Aebi Schmidt together with The Shyft Group. We do have that upfit business, infrastructure-based, that we can really coordinate our activities, have a better footprint nationwide, and access to a broader range of customers, so we see that's one of the key points that's going to accelerate our growth. As to the specifics on what they're seeing right now, because we're still in the early phase of the merger, we're not really sharing that information, but we know that they have to be seeing similar activity and growth. Michael ShliskyManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:24:20Okay. Also, I just wanted to talk about the FVS margin results in the quarter. Pretty good swing there. We're talking 14-15 points from a negative to a positive over the prior year in the fourth quarter. How sustainable is that 11% EBITDA margin run rate at $110 million of sales? Is that on the curve of where FVS is currently running? John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:24:54Yeah. I think we're certainly seeing improvements in the FVS margins. We had some great operational efficiencies that we drove. So that's what you're seeing year over year to get to that low double-digit margins. And I think that's also consistent with where we've talked about getting those margins over the last several quarters. So yep, so we do expect to be able to maintain that low double digits in that space. And again, there's really high focus on operational efficiencies in that space. It's been helped us get there. Michael ShliskyManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:25:31Got it. Maybe one last one from me. I'm talking about tariff topics. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:25:39Thanks. Michael ShliskyManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:25:39Yeah. Oh, I have one other question. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:25:45Oh, go ahead, Mike. Michael ShliskyManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:25:46Oh, sure. I just wanted to ask about tariff impact. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:25:49Oh, yeah. We are. Yep. Tariff. Michael ShliskyManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at D.A. Davidson00:25:52Yeah. I wanted to ask you a little bit about what we should be thinking about at this stage as far as tariffs. I know it's still a bit of a fluid situation, but there are some aluminum tariffs out there. Do you have surcharges planned or any other potential changes to your pricing? Are there still kind of more flexible pricing arrangement as the tariff situation changes here in the first part of 2025 that might impact your business? John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:26:20Yeah. Mike, this is Scott. Let me start off there. So yeah, certainly, we've been evaluating the various scenarios relating to the tariffs and what's been put in place and the multiple other threats that are still out there. We implemented a supply chain strategy over the last couple of years that's really focused on helping us mitigate this risk. It includes the strategy of North American supply alternatives, right? So we do have plans in place to mitigate the impact, both through our partnerships with our suppliers as well as plans to increase prices where appropriate to help offset these impacts. But it is a very fluid situation, so we're watching it very closely to be able to understand these impacts, but it is a little early as things are continuing to move quickly day to day. Operator00:27:13The next question is from Tyler DiMatteo with BTIG. Please go ahead. Tyler DiMatteoVP and Analyst at BTIG00:27:21Hey, guys. Morning. Thanks for taking the questions. Appreciate the time. Wanted to follow up on. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:27:26Good morning. Tyler DiMatteoVP and Analyst at BTIG00:27:27The outlook for this year. Yeah. Yeah. Hey. Wanted to follow up real quick on the outlook here. I know the comments surrounding seasonality in the Q1. I guess what's maybe the magnitude of that? I mean, is it going to be similar to past? I know you kind of pointed to that, hey, low single-digit EBITDA and then 70% in the back half of the year. I guess I'm just curious the degree of the seasonality, and then I have a follow-up. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:27:56Sure. Yeah. I think it's going to be consistent with prior year, so if you look at 2024, we had a similar slow start to ramping up and a much stronger second half of the year. We're expecting that similar type of progression here this year. We do expect the benefit of our ITU acquisition as well as just the continued strength of the work truck space. We have talked about the fact that Blue Arc has moved into production now, which is going to help us from an overall cost spend perspective, but in this first quarter specifically, we are still seeing the weakness in the walk-in van and the motor home space, which is going to be a challenge for us this quarter, and I think why you're seeing that comment on the single-digit, low single digits in Q1. Tyler DiMatteoVP and Analyst at BTIG00:28:57Got it. Thank you, and then my follow-up here really surrounding maybe the service work and the upfitting pieces of business versus the core product, if you will. I guess in terms of the service piece and the infrastructure, I guess how has the approach to kind of service work from you guys and maybe going to customers, how has that strategy evolved as you go to win orders? I know obviously from a profitability perspective, you guys have done a really nice job of keeping that margin profile, but I guess if you think about your strategy and kind of how has that evolved over time? I guess maybe how much is it the same? How do you kind of think about that in terms of 2025? John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:29:45Specifically around those service bodies, our strategy continues to be to get that nationwide coverage. And so as the Royal is much more on the West Coast, DuraMag and aluminum's on the East Coast, we're bringing that together. You see that in our new Nashville area facility where we sell both products there. And so it's getting that nationwide coverage. And then through our new partners, ITU, for example, they now use either a Royal or DuraMag service body. So we're more vertically integrated there. And as we roll into the merger with Aebi Schmidt, there's just more opportunities there to get that vertical integration, really drive the overall sales of the service body business. So that's one of the key pieces that makes us excited about it. And in that merger, we've identified synergies. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:30:33A lot of that synergies and opportunities is coming together in that space for the upfit business supporting infrastructure. Tyler DiMatteoVP and Analyst at BTIG00:30:45Awesome. Thanks, guys. Appreciate the time. I'll turn it back to the queue. John DunnPresident and CEO at The Shyft Group00:30:51Thanks, Tyler. Operator00:30:51This concludes the question and answer session. Mr. Wilson, I would like to turn the floor back over to you for closing comments. Randy WilsonVP of Investor Relations and Treasury at The Shyft Group00:31:03Thank you, Operator. I'd like to thank everyone for joining today's call. Management looks forward to connecting with the investment community at the NTEA Work Truck Week on March 5th and 6th in Indianapolis and at the Roth Conference in Dana Point, California on March 16th and 17th. As always, thank you for your interest in the Shyft Group, and please reach out to me if you have any follow-up questions. With that, Operator, please disconnect the call. Operator00:31:28The conference has been concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesJohn DunnPresident and CEORandy WilsonVP of Investor Relations and TreasuryScott OcholikInterim CFOAnalystsTyler DiMatteoVP and Analyst at BTIGMichael ShliskyManaging Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at D.A. DavidsonAnalystPowered by