NYSE:FCPT Four Corners Property Trust Q1 2025 Earnings Report $25.02 +0.02 (+0.06%) As of 02:33 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Four Corners Property Trust EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.44Consensus EPS $0.42Beat/MissBeat by +$0.02One Year Ago EPS$0.43Four Corners Property Trust Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$71.48 millionExpected Revenue$67.17 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$4.31 millionYoY Revenue Growth+7.50%Four Corners Property Trust Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date4/30/2025TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, May 1, 2025Conference Call Time12:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsFour Corners Property Trust's Q2 2026 earnings is estimated for Tuesday, August 4, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled on Wednesday, July 29, 2026 at 12:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Four Corners Property Trust Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 1, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Record Q1 Acquisitions: Closed $70 M at a 6.7% cap rate—the highest first-quarter volume in company history—and $269 M of acquisitions since late August. Strong Balance Sheet: Net debt to EBITDAre at a seven-year low of 4.4× with $617 M of available capital and over 95% of debt fixed through Q3 2027. Robust Portfolio Metrics: Achieved 99.4% occupancy, 99.5% rent collection, and 4.9× rent coverage in Q1, among the strongest in the net-lease industry. Q1 Financial Growth: Reported AFFO of $0.44 per share (+2.3% YoY) and cash rental income of $63.2 M (+9.1% YoY), reflecting efficient scale and cost management. Tenant Diversification: Reduced Darden brands to 47% of rent roll from 100% at inception, with top five brands at 55% of ABR and increased exposure to auto service (11%) and medical retail (9%). AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallFour Corners Property Trust Q1 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Hello, and welcome everyone to the FCPT Q1 2025 Financial Results Conference Call. My name is Becky, and I'll be your operator today. During the presentation, you can register a question by pressing star followed by one on your keypad. If you change your mind, please press star followed by two. I will now hand over to your host, Patrick Wernig, Chief Financial Officer, to begin. Please go ahead. Patrick WernigCFO at Four Corners Property Trust00:00:26Thank you, Becky. During the course of this call, we will make forward-looking statements which are based on our beliefs and assumptions. Actual results will be affected by known and unknown factors that are beyond our control or ability to predict. Our assumptions are not a guarantee of future performance, and some will prove to be incorrect. For a more detailed description of some potential risks, please refer to our SEC filings, which can be found at fcpt.com. All the information presented on this call is current as of today, 1 May, 2025. In addition, reconciliation to non-GAAP financial measures presented on this call, such as FFO and AFFO, can be found in the company's supplemental report. With that, I will turn the call over to Bill. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:01:05Good morning. Following our typical cadence, after my introductory remarks, Josh will comment further on the investment market, and Patrick will discuss our financial results and capital position. The start of 2025 continued the momentum we had in the second half of 2024. We took advantage of our sustained strong cost of capital and added to the pipeline, finding deals that both met our quality standards and with pricing that made sense. This led to a Q1 being the highest acquisition volume for a Q1 in the company's history, which similarly followed our highest Q4 volume. So far this year, we've closed $70 million of acquisitions at a blended 6.7% cap rate. Looking back to when we fully turned the acquisition machine back on in late August, we have closed $269 million of acquisitions over the past eight months. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:01:59While we do not give acquisition guidance, we are continuing to add to the pipeline and are seeing opportunities that are consistent with our quality thresholds and within our pricing standards. We note that we have not seen much change in cap rates for recently priced deals. We have continued to build significant liquidity while deleveraging to preserve optionality on funding new opportunities as they arise. This includes leaning in on the equity sales via our ATM program, which we have used to raise $475 million in equity since July of last year. Including our unsettled equity forwards, we now have our lowest leverage levels in the last seven years. Simply put, we are well positioned for uncertainty. Shifting to our in-place portfolio, we continue to perform well with high rent collections and occupancy. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:02:51Our rent coverage in the Q1 was 4.9 times for the majority of our portfolio that reports this figure. This remains amongst the strongest coverage within our industry. FCPT's largest tenants are nationally branded restaurant operators, namely Olive Garden, LongHorn, and Chili's. They are leaders for their sectors and generally outperform the industry peers as well as fine dining or local mom-and-pop brands. Most recently, Brinker reported Chili's same-store sales grew 31.6% for the quarter ended March 2025. Similarly, Olive Garden and LongHorn reported same-store sales growth of just shy of 1% and 2.6% year-over-year for the three months ended February 2025, respectively. While these brands remain core to our portfolio and strategy, as we approach 10 years as a public company, we would also highlight our diversification progress over that period. We've grown from 418 properties at inception to 1,236 leases today. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:03:53Darden has dropped from 100% of our rent roll to now 47% combined across all of their brands. This improvement is despite acquiring 47 Darden properties post-spin. Our top five brands make up 55% of our annual base revenue. On sector diversification, 67% of our annual base rent comes from casual dining and 11% from quick service. Outside of restaurants, automotive service is our largest sector at 11% of ABR, followed by medical retail at 9% of ABR. As for portfolio management, we are not yet experiencing any material tenancy issues in the portfolio and no current indicators that inflation or tariff issues will impact our rent payments. Further, while the current tariff environment remains uncertain, we expect restaurants to be one of the least tariff-affected sectors. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:04:46Similarly, our other service-based tenants should fare better than average retail operators given their low exposure to imported goods as part of their operations. While we would expect in a recession that we would see some pullback in our tenant performance, we believe that we are well positioned with cushion on our rent coverage to weather any potential issues. Turning to the materials we published last night, we would like to highlight a few new slides in our investor presentation that point to what we believe is FCPT being a calm port in the storm. Our portfolio was built brick by brick to be resilient, and we've paired that with prudent capital management. We have significant liquidity, no near-term debt maturities, granular low-basis properties, high rent collections, and low overhead. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:05:34FCPT's portfolio is made up of well-capitalized, sophisticated operators who we believe will be able to navigate and gain share in this challenging macro environment. We pride ourselves on transparency and best-in-class disclosure. In addition to our press release regime on new acquisitions, this quarter we decided to further break out our portfolio to the top 35 brands, which make up more than 80% of our ABR. Our goal is for our investors to understand our tenant exposures and have confidence that we'll stay disciplined on meeting quality expectations for the properties we buy. To that end, you will see in our filings we have zero or near zero exposure to the problem net lease sectors such as theaters, pharmacy, high-rent car washes, and big-box retail. Over to you, Josh. Joshua ZhangChief Investment Officer at Four Corners Property Trust00:06:25Thank you, Bill. During the Q1, we acquired 23 properties for $57 million at a blended 6.7% cap rate with a weighted average lease term of 17 years. We did not sell any properties in the quarter. While Q1 is typically our slowest quarter, we continue to deliver on the strong investment momentum we achieved in the second half of 2024. As a result, we believe that we stand very well positioned at the end of the first four months in 2025, having both come off a record Q1 to start the year right after a record Q4 last year as we continue to build out the pipeline. We are achieving this without compromising on the quality of our asset selection or the credit standards to meet yield or volume targets. Joshua ZhangChief Investment Officer at Four Corners Property Trust00:07:12Our disclosure regime is particularly helpful in times like these where investors can read through our frequent press releases to see how our acquisitions and the brands we work with are highly consistent with past years. Our team is being patient and organized, tracking our opportunity sets for both on- and off-market investments and including robust analytics to help us identify the best opportunities. In other words, we are not chasing deals, but rather selecting the best ones that fit our portfolio, even if that means leaning in slightly on cap rate to capture these higher quality deals, all while still protecting accretion. Reflecting back on Q1, 83% of our investment volume was via sale-leaseback as operators continue to seek stable financing solutions in this current market. As such, our weighted average lease term this year was much higher at 17 years. Joshua ZhangChief Investment Officer at Four Corners Property Trust00:08:01In particular, we had three sale-leasebacks of note with QSR operators, one with Burger King Corporate, another with a large multi-unit Burger King franchisee, and lastly with a Whataburger franchisee. The two Burger King deals were both part of M&A transactions while the Whataburger deal was for their newly built stores. It's worth noting that similar QSR properties typically command very aggressive cap rates in the upper 5% to low 6% cap rate range when sold piecemeal. Individual investors favor these small price points per property and the fungibility of their real estate. However, our team was able to achieve accretive pricing here by offering a portfolio solution and efficient execution for our operating partners. All three transactions were negotiated off-market and a product of years of relationship cultivation from our investment team. Joshua ZhangChief Investment Officer at Four Corners Property Trust00:08:51Looking forward, we will continue to target similar opportunities, nationally recognized brands operated by best-in-class operators with appropriate basis. While this quarter ended up having more quick service restaurants, some automotive, and no medical retail investments, we remind everyone that our team does not specifically allocate target buckets or quotas across our investment sectors. Rather, we make investments when opportunities meet our underwriting criteria. That being said, we still expect these sectors to be roughly even split between these three target categories of ours over the long term. Looking forward, FCPT's opportunity set continues to grow despite a volatile macro environment. We have a steady pipeline built out for Q2 and aim to continue to execute on our strategy with discipline. Patrick, back over to you. Patrick WernigCFO at Four Corners Property Trust00:09:39Thanks, Josh. I'll start by talking about capital sourcing and the state of our balance sheet. At FCPT, we are highly focused on official capital raising. We raised over $169 million in 2025 to date on top of the $318 million equity in 2024. Today, we have $254 million of unsettled equity forwards. The ability to raise forward ATM quickly and at scale has allowed us to match sources and uses more effectively. Furthermore, the high SOFR rate has allowed for minimum drag of our forward balance, given we receive interest income on the balance at over 4%. With respect to overall leverage, our net debt to adjusted EBITDA rate in Q1 continued to move lower to 4.4 times, inclusive of outstanding net equity forwards as of 31 March. Patrick WernigCFO at Four Corners Property Trust00:10:25This leverage is at a seven-year low and provides capacity for us to continue to execute our business plan, even if the current volatility persists or we are unable to raise additional capital for the rest of the year. We've also layered in additional hedges to our floating rate exposure, raising us to over 95% fixed through Q3 2027. Our revolver is fully available at $350 million, and we have, with extension options, essentially no debt maturities for nearly two years. Additionally, our fixed charge coverage ratio is a healthy 4.4 times. Altogether, this puts us in a great liquidity position. We have approximately $617 million available for funding acquisitions between cash, unsettled forward equity, and undrawn revolver capacity. Assuming no further equity issuance, we have an approximate $565 million of available capital before reaching six times net leverage. Now, turning to some of our financial highlights for Q1. Patrick WernigCFO at Four Corners Property Trust00:11:18We reported Q1 AFFO of $0.44 per share, which is up 2.3% from Q1 last year. Q1 cash rental income was $63.2 million, representing growth of 9.1% for the quarter compared to last year. On a run rate basis, current annual cash-based rent for leases in place as of quarter end is $243.9 million, and our weighted average five-year annual cash rent escalator remains 1.4%. Cash G&A expense, excluding stock-based compensation, was $4.9 million, representing 7.7% of cash rental income for the quarter, compared to 7.9% for the quarter last year. This progress illustrates our continued efforts at efficient growth and the benefits of improving scale. We're still expecting cash G&A will be in the range of $18 to $18.5 million for 2025. As a reminder, we take a conservative approach and do not capitalize any of the compensation costs related to our investment team. Patrick WernigCFO at Four Corners Property Trust00:12:13As for managing our lease maturity profile, our team has made significant progress on 2025 maturities, with 88% of those tenants already extending their leases or indicating an intent to do so. As of quarter end, expirations represent just 0.5% of ABR in 2026 is 2.3%. Our portfolio occupancy today is 99.4%, and we collected 99.5% of base rent for the Q1. There were no material changes to our collectibility or credit reserves, nor any balance sheet impairments. With that, we'll turn it back over to Becky for questions. Operator00:12:48Thank you. If you wish to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad now. If for any reason you wish to remove your question, please press star followed by two. When preparing to ask your question, please ensure your device is unmuted locally. Our first question comes from John Kilichowski from Wells Fargo. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. John KilichowskiVice President of Equity Research at Wells Fargo00:13:13Morning or afternoon. Thank you. Maybe just on a little bit of slight yield compression in the quarter. Is that due to the fact that there's maybe more competition in your sectors for these assets given the insulation from tariffs? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:13:33Hard to say. I would say the vast majority is related to the high percentage of QSR restaurant acquisitions in the quarter. John KilichowskiVice President of Equity Research at Wells Fargo00:13:43Okay. Maybe just on the pipeline more generally, you have a big fourth quarter followed up with a very strong first quarter. What's your governor on growth and maybe just some color around what your pipeline looks like? I'm curious. Patrick, you talked about smart capital raising. I'm curious if that's it or if it's just the amount of deals or if it's the size of your team. I'm curious what keeps you from maybe taking up a step further from here. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:14:09Sure. John, maybe just to more completely answer your first question, I think if we were targeting sectors that were very exposed to tariffs, we would have a much higher cap rate, obviously. As the great research you published recently, we have very low tariff exposure in our portfolio. As far as governors to growth, that's a much longer answer, but I think the kind of acquisitions that we're working on is what largely determines how much we buy in a quarter. Whether it's sale-leasebacks, which were prominent in this quarter and in Q4, are much more efficient. Individual one-off deals, it becomes challenging to have that many balls in the air on $2 million acquisitions, $3 million acquisitions to put up larger volumes. We really do not look at it that way. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:15:14We're trying to score assets and buy assets that have sufficient quality and then making sure that we raise the money the right way. I think we feel particularly proud over the last couple of years that when the environment was sufficient for acquisitions, but our cost of capital wasn't there, we responsibly paused. When there was alignment where there were acquisitions to do and our cost of capital was there, we acted with emphasis. John KilichowskiVice President of Equity Research at Wells Fargo00:15:49All right. Thank you. Operator00:15:54Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Goldsmith from UBS. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Catherine BeardAnalyst at UBS00:16:05Hi. This is Catherine Beard on for Michael. Thank you for taking my question. My first, just looking at the volume that you achieved in Q1 last year, the acquisition sort of ramped up through the year. Can you provide any color on what you're expecting as far as the cadence for this year, especially starting at such a higher base? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:16:26Yeah. Q4 has historically been a very strong quarter for us. I'm not sure why, Catherine, to be honest with you. There's a dynamic where people want to get things done in a fiscal year, perhaps. We have a very good pipeline right now. Deals typically have 60 to 90 day sort of life cycles. Sixty would be a minimum. We really do not have a lot of visibility on the second half of the year. Certainly, with all the macro uncertainty, it's very hard to tell. We are staffed and capitalized and very focused and organized in executing the rest of the year. We do not give guidance because really we want to make sure that we have the best sort of decision-making hygiene in making acquisitions. Catherine BeardAnalyst at UBS00:17:24Fair enough. Thank you. My second question. You acquired several Burger Kings in this past quarter, and I'm sure you saw there was recently a large franchisee who filed for bankruptcy. Is your sense that this was sort of a franchisee-specific issue, or has anything changed as far as how you monitor the health of your Burger King tenants? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:17:45Very much a specific issue to that franchisee. Catherine BeardAnalyst at UBS00:17:52Got it. Thank you. Operator00:17:56Thank you. Our next question comes from Anthony Paolone from JPMorgan. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Anthony PaoloneExecutive Director at JPMorgan00:18:05Yeah. Thank you. I know this may not be completely apples to apples because I understand the skew towards QSRs with your cap rates, but we do see some of the other net lease names doing deals in the sevens. I was wondering if you can maybe give us some sense as to maybe how you see the difference between going from, say, high sixes into the low mid-sevens and what the give and take might be there. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:18:36We certainly see things that are for sale that are—let's not draw too fine a point on it—call it seven and a half caps in North. They typically have—they're either in subsectors that we don't like, like pharmacy or experiential, or that we haven't historically been involved with, or the credit isn't very good, or the rents are really high. All those factors show up in our scorecard to scores that are insufficient for us to proceed. Now, that doesn't mean that there isn't one transaction where you feel like you're getting a great price or another transaction where you see real strategic reasons to lean in by 20 basis points or something like that. On average, what we have seen is that cap rates that are higher enough from what we're posting to matter involve measurably more risk. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:19:44I would say that one of the things that's, I think, very helpful about our reporting regime is you know what we're buying for that cap rate. What we see some of our peers do is pursue what I would call barbell strategies where they disclose tenants that shareholders are happy that they're buying, but disclose a cap rate that involves a bunch of tenants that they don't talk about. I think our straightforward, very transparent strategy should give you comfort that what we're buying is thoughtfully selected and not to hit some metric for a quarterly disclosure. Anthony PaoloneExecutive Director at JPMorgan00:20:30Okay. Thanks. Just on the pipeline, are there any larger-type transactions that you see in the mix, or is it pretty much all the one-by-ones? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:20:44It's a mix. We're always working on larger transactions. We have a handful in the hopper. I would reflect that we haven't really seen a dynamic where there's portfolio discounts. In fact, in some cases, we found that the larger transactions have more competition. I think we saw that clearly in a large transaction that one of our peers did last winter. It's a mix, Anthony, but I also wouldn't say that large transactions come at bargain prices by any means. Anthony PaoloneExecutive Director at JPMorgan00:21:22Okay. Thanks. Operator00:21:26Thank you. Our next question comes from Wes Golladay from Baird. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Wes GolladaySenior Research Analyst at Baird00:21:34Hey, good morning, guys. Can you talk about how you underwrite the smaller franchisees? I think you mentioned you do get a corporate guarantee, but how small are some of these franchisees? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:21:46Yeah. Our small franchisees, I think, would be considered very large for our peers. We do not have a ton of franchisee exposure, and the franchisee exposure we have tends to be with Franchise Times 100 type size franchisees. We get financials. We do a typical credit underwriting, but franchisee credit is not a big part of our business. I would say the dynamic where some of our peers will sort of put people into business by buying real estate for them or developing real estate for them, and by definition, that is a very, very small sort of individual-sized business entity, is not something we do. Wes GolladaySenior Research Analyst at Baird00:22:34Okay. You have been building up the team, developing a lot of new relationships over the last few years. Just curious how much the new deal flow is from these new relationships. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:22:48There's some of that, but a lot of it is, frankly, deals that we have been tracking for years and now have an advantage cost of capital, and sellers are more willing to meet us on price because of the overall macro uncertainty. I don't think it's the algorithm isn't something like new acquisition person at six months has four relationships and at 12 months has eight, and therefore you can count on deal flow from that. We have been doing more outreach recently. As you mentioned, we've expanded our acquisition team. We have the largest acquisition class coming in this summer of three folks out of undergrad and two interns, and we're really excited to get them up to speed. I think they'll make a real impact. Wes GolladaySenior Research Analyst at Baird00:23:41Okay. Thanks. Operator00:23:45Thank you. Our next question comes from Kyle Katorincek from Janney. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Kyle KatorincekVice President of Equity Research at Janney00:23:53Hey, good morning, guys. Where is the range of EBITDA coverage ratios for recent acquisitions, and is there any difference between restaurant and non-restaurant segments there? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:24:02Yeah. We do not disclose on a quarterly basis coverage ratios. Obviously, we have to sign confidentiality agreements to get financials, and I do not think we are going to be in a position to disclose those on a quarterly basis. I would say I think the credit metrics are fairly similar across the different industries, although I would say within medical, it is a little bit harder to define four-wall because you might have a patient who is visiting our retail outpatient center, for example, but also as part of their care going to the hospital system that it is associated with. Saying that that four-wall is X is a little bit more ambiguous. The credit is very similar on a corporate leverage basis, being in the mid-single digits, and four-wall coverage being typically three plus times. Kyle KatorincekVice President of Equity Research at Janney00:25:07Okay. At what point would you guys consider lease too conservative where there's potential opportunity costs in the form of lost rents? On the flip side, what point would you feel uncomfortable underwriting a new lease in terms of coverage? Just trying to get a range of how you guys think about that. Thanks. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:25:24Yeah. If I understand your question, could we take more risk and still be in a safe position? Kyle KatorincekVice President of Equity Research at Janney00:25:34Yeah. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:25:34If that's the gist of... Kyle KatorincekVice President of Equity Research at Janney00:25:35Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, then upper limit too conservative of the coverage ratio. At what point is that? Is that six and a half times? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:25:44Sure. Sure. I guess I'd make two reflections to backtest, are we being too conservative? We do go back and look at things that we looked at and didn't do. It's very clear to us that the outcomes of the things that we passed on are far less favorable than what we've done. Okay? That's both in taking buildings that to the naked eye, it's a brand, it's a business that we bought, it's a brand that we've bought, but what you can't see is the lease is too short or the rents are too high or the tenant has bad financials. Very frequently things that we've looked at and passed on have turned out to be unfortunate outcomes. That's one. Two, I would observe that rents on net lease are relatively random. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:26:44You may have a Burger King that has $70,000 worth of rent and one that has $107,000 worth of rent and one that has $170,000 worth of rent, and they look exactly the same other than their rent number. The coverage would obviously be way different on the $70,000 worth of rent than the $170,000. I think a big part of our job is searching for properties that have great performance but reasonable rents. I do not think that there is an upper limit of what we would consider. Obviously, when that lease matures, which is usually very far into the future given extension options, we have some rent upside and we have experienced some positive outcomes there. The last thing I would point out is maybe a different answer to your question. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:27:33Having gone through the financial crisis earlier in my career, the dot-com bust very early in my career, COVID, more recently, there is a dynamic where when there's substantial uncertainty and you have the ability to be on offense, there's enormous advantage to that. We go into this current environment with the lowest leverage we've had in a long time. We have more liquidity from undrawn forwards than we've had in a long time, and we have a portfolio that's in fantastic shape. If the issue is we might be a little bit too conservative historically, I'll take that in order to be in a position to be aggressive if opportunities knock. Kyle KatorincekVice President of Equity Research at Janney00:28:20Thank you. I appreciate the context. Operator00:28:25Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from RJ Milligan from Raymond James. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. RJ MilliganSenior Research Analyst at Raymond James00:28:39Yeah. Hey, good afternoon, guys. Bill, you talked about running leverage at the lowest level it's been in quite some time, if not ever. I'm just curious, given the fact that your cost of capital is attractive here, how do you think about potentially further delevering or loading up the balance sheet for opportunities that might arise later? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:29:00Yeah. It's a great question. I think the interesting dynamic is, as Pat mentioned, when SOFR is 4% and so that you pay your dividend, in essence, on the forward and you receive SOFR, and there's some fees involved, but that's the basic building blocks. The cost of having this liquidity is very low. When rates were zero and you're paying a 5% dividend, shucks, it gets expensive if you have too much of a forward and you're not using it in a timely manner. We felt that the opportunity cost of having substantial liquidity was very minimal. We were opportunistic because of the fee structure of the ATM. Just so everyone's clear, ATM has been the technology we've used to raise equity almost exclusively for something like the last seven or eight years. It has a very advantaged fee and discount structure. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:30:09When that capital was available, because the opportunity cost of holding that forward position was minimal, we took advantage of it. I think that puts us in a really good position. When I say it's volatile out there, it's not sort of my opinion. You can look at the VIX, and it's a quite volatile environment, but we love being very liquid when there's stress in the streets. RJ MilliganSenior Research Analyst at Raymond James00:30:43Okay. Bill, you had given some same-store stats on some of the tenants at the beginning of the call. Obviously, concerns out there that we might head into a recession, downturn. Obviously, the data has been pretty mixed. If we were to see a downturn or a recession, how do you think that might change the pipeline, whether it be volume, competition, or pricing? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:31:10We went through COVID, and our portfolio performed extremely well, but I wouldn't say there were bargains to be had on any sustained basis during that time. This is a different scenario. I think our portfolio will perform very well. We're essentially 100% occupied, so I can't promise that it would improve because it's about as full as it can be, but I think we'd be in a really good position. Do we then have interesting opportunities to deploy capital in acquisitions? Unclear. To an earlier question, we tend to target sectors that have less targeted tariff exposure. There's been two Wall Street research reports on the net lease industry and tariff exposure. I think we were sort of the most favorable of the industry in both of those. I'd encourage you to track them down. Will we get this situation where we have really interesting investment opportunities? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:32:14I can't say for sure. I can say that we have the money for it. We have the people for it. We are focused on it, but we need the market to come to us to find high-quality deals that we can buy at better than historic prices. RJ MilliganSenior Research Analyst at Raymond James00:32:32Okay. That's helpful. Thanks, guys. Operator00:32:37Thank you. Our next question comes from Jason Wayne from Barclays. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Jason WayneVice President of Equity Research at Barclays00:32:46Hi. Good afternoon. Rent collections ticked up a bit this quarter. They're still strong, but I'm just wondering what types of tenants are non-paying now and if you're working on anything at those properties to increase the collections numbers further? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:33:03Yeah. It's basically one tenant. We have a personal guarantee from that tenant that we're pursuing, and we've made substantial progress releasing the buildings. It is very, very small, sort of a one-off thing. Jason WayneVice President of Equity Research at Barclays00:33:24What kind of releasing spreads have you gotten on trade-offs like that historically? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:33:29Yeah. It's just a couple of buildings. I think we'll be in a good spot, but we're not going to comment on ongoing lease negotiations when it's only a couple of buildings. Jason WayneVice President of Equity Research at Barclays00:33:42All right. Thank you for the questions. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:33:45Yep. Operator00:33:47Thank you. Our next question comes from Jim Kammert from Evercore. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Jim KammertManaging Director at Evercore00:33:55Thank you. Thanks for the time. Kind of a bigger picture question, Bill. You mentioned you're building acquisition staff and have been. You've got the balance sheet in a great position. Are you adding other sort of capabilities or data sets to your underwriting? I know you've been pleased with Dealpath Technology, etc., to date, but I'm just curious how you're setting up for the next phase of growth and if that entails any other incremental steps that you're doing to further enhance the underwriting. Thanks. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:34:23That's a really good question. I think like every company, we're trying to figure out how AI will make us more efficient. I think we have just more people to work on projects and to explore potential new industries. We've built substantially more muscle in our asset management group with some really exciting hires there that are getting up to speed. Historically, we didn't need much of that function, but as we have added several hundred buildings, it's become...our portfolio is in fantastic shape, but there's more to do. I'm really excited, as I said, about the new folks that are joining. They'll be able to use the technology that we have. We'll be able to put more emphasis on automating things that can be automated, but there's a lot that we can do with the existing technology that we have. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:35:24As you mentioned, Dealpath is an integral part of running our business, and we've done a number of investor sessions where we take people through our underwriting and Dealpath. If there are those who'd like to do that, we'd be more than happy to do it. I think investors have almost universally found it a valuable 45 minutes of their time. Jim KammertManaging Director at Evercore00:35:50Thank you for your time. Operator00:35:54Thank you. We currently have no further questions. This concludes our Q&A and consequently today's call. Thank you for joining us. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Hello, and welcome everyone to the FCPT Q1 2025 Financial Results Conference Call. My name is Becky, and I'll be your operator today. During the presentation, you can register a question by pressing star followed by one on your keypad. If you change your mind, please press star followed by two. I will now hand over to your host, Patrick Wernig, Chief Financial Officer, to begin. Please go ahead. Patrick WernigCFO at Four Corners Property Trust00:00:26Thank you, Becky. During the course of this call, we will make forward-looking statements which are based on our beliefs and assumptions. Actual results will be affected by known and unknown factors that are beyond our control or ability to predict. Our assumptions are not a guarantee of future performance, and some will prove to be incorrect. For a more detailed description of some potential risks, please refer to our SEC filings, which can be found at fcpt.com. All the information presented on this call is current as of today, 1 May, 2025. In addition, reconciliation to non-GAAP financial measures presented on this call, such as FFO and AFFO, can be found in the company's supplemental report. With that, I will turn the call over to Bill. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:01:05Good morning. Following our typical cadence, after my introductory remarks, Josh will comment further on the investment market, and Patrick will discuss our financial results and capital position. The start of 2025 continued the momentum we had in the second half of 2024. We took advantage of our sustained strong cost of capital and added to the pipeline, finding deals that both met our quality standards and with pricing that made sense. This led to a Q1 being the highest acquisition volume for a Q1 in the company's history, which similarly followed our highest Q4 volume. So far this year, we've closed $70 million of acquisitions at a blended 6.7% cap rate. Looking back to when we fully turned the acquisition machine back on in late August, we have closed $269 million of acquisitions over the past eight months. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:01:59While we do not give acquisition guidance, we are continuing to add to the pipeline and are seeing opportunities that are consistent with our quality thresholds and within our pricing standards. We note that we have not seen much change in cap rates for recently priced deals. We have continued to build significant liquidity while deleveraging to preserve optionality on funding new opportunities as they arise. This includes leaning in on the equity sales via our ATM program, which we have used to raise $475 million in equity since July of last year. Including our unsettled equity forwards, we now have our lowest leverage levels in the last seven years. Simply put, we are well positioned for uncertainty. Shifting to our in-place portfolio, we continue to perform well with high rent collections and occupancy. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:02:51Our rent coverage in the Q1 was 4.9 times for the majority of our portfolio that reports this figure. This remains amongst the strongest coverage within our industry. FCPT's largest tenants are nationally branded restaurant operators, namely Olive Garden, LongHorn, and Chili's. They are leaders for their sectors and generally outperform the industry peers as well as fine dining or local mom-and-pop brands. Most recently, Brinker reported Chili's same-store sales grew 31.6% for the quarter ended March 2025. Similarly, Olive Garden and LongHorn reported same-store sales growth of just shy of 1% and 2.6% year-over-year for the three months ended February 2025, respectively. While these brands remain core to our portfolio and strategy, as we approach 10 years as a public company, we would also highlight our diversification progress over that period. We've grown from 418 properties at inception to 1,236 leases today. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:03:53Darden has dropped from 100% of our rent roll to now 47% combined across all of their brands. This improvement is despite acquiring 47 Darden properties post-spin. Our top five brands make up 55% of our annual base revenue. On sector diversification, 67% of our annual base rent comes from casual dining and 11% from quick service. Outside of restaurants, automotive service is our largest sector at 11% of ABR, followed by medical retail at 9% of ABR. As for portfolio management, we are not yet experiencing any material tenancy issues in the portfolio and no current indicators that inflation or tariff issues will impact our rent payments. Further, while the current tariff environment remains uncertain, we expect restaurants to be one of the least tariff-affected sectors. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:04:46Similarly, our other service-based tenants should fare better than average retail operators given their low exposure to imported goods as part of their operations. While we would expect in a recession that we would see some pullback in our tenant performance, we believe that we are well positioned with cushion on our rent coverage to weather any potential issues. Turning to the materials we published last night, we would like to highlight a few new slides in our investor presentation that point to what we believe is FCPT being a calm port in the storm. Our portfolio was built brick by brick to be resilient, and we've paired that with prudent capital management. We have significant liquidity, no near-term debt maturities, granular low-basis properties, high rent collections, and low overhead. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:05:34FCPT's portfolio is made up of well-capitalized, sophisticated operators who we believe will be able to navigate and gain share in this challenging macro environment. We pride ourselves on transparency and best-in-class disclosure. In addition to our press release regime on new acquisitions, this quarter we decided to further break out our portfolio to the top 35 brands, which make up more than 80% of our ABR. Our goal is for our investors to understand our tenant exposures and have confidence that we'll stay disciplined on meeting quality expectations for the properties we buy. To that end, you will see in our filings we have zero or near zero exposure to the problem net lease sectors such as theaters, pharmacy, high-rent car washes, and big-box retail. Over to you, Josh. Joshua ZhangChief Investment Officer at Four Corners Property Trust00:06:25Thank you, Bill. During the Q1, we acquired 23 properties for $57 million at a blended 6.7% cap rate with a weighted average lease term of 17 years. We did not sell any properties in the quarter. While Q1 is typically our slowest quarter, we continue to deliver on the strong investment momentum we achieved in the second half of 2024. As a result, we believe that we stand very well positioned at the end of the first four months in 2025, having both come off a record Q1 to start the year right after a record Q4 last year as we continue to build out the pipeline. We are achieving this without compromising on the quality of our asset selection or the credit standards to meet yield or volume targets. Joshua ZhangChief Investment Officer at Four Corners Property Trust00:07:12Our disclosure regime is particularly helpful in times like these where investors can read through our frequent press releases to see how our acquisitions and the brands we work with are highly consistent with past years. Our team is being patient and organized, tracking our opportunity sets for both on- and off-market investments and including robust analytics to help us identify the best opportunities. In other words, we are not chasing deals, but rather selecting the best ones that fit our portfolio, even if that means leaning in slightly on cap rate to capture these higher quality deals, all while still protecting accretion. Reflecting back on Q1, 83% of our investment volume was via sale-leaseback as operators continue to seek stable financing solutions in this current market. As such, our weighted average lease term this year was much higher at 17 years. Joshua ZhangChief Investment Officer at Four Corners Property Trust00:08:01In particular, we had three sale-leasebacks of note with QSR operators, one with Burger King Corporate, another with a large multi-unit Burger King franchisee, and lastly with a Whataburger franchisee. The two Burger King deals were both part of M&A transactions while the Whataburger deal was for their newly built stores. It's worth noting that similar QSR properties typically command very aggressive cap rates in the upper 5% to low 6% cap rate range when sold piecemeal. Individual investors favor these small price points per property and the fungibility of their real estate. However, our team was able to achieve accretive pricing here by offering a portfolio solution and efficient execution for our operating partners. All three transactions were negotiated off-market and a product of years of relationship cultivation from our investment team. Joshua ZhangChief Investment Officer at Four Corners Property Trust00:08:51Looking forward, we will continue to target similar opportunities, nationally recognized brands operated by best-in-class operators with appropriate basis. While this quarter ended up having more quick service restaurants, some automotive, and no medical retail investments, we remind everyone that our team does not specifically allocate target buckets or quotas across our investment sectors. Rather, we make investments when opportunities meet our underwriting criteria. That being said, we still expect these sectors to be roughly even split between these three target categories of ours over the long term. Looking forward, FCPT's opportunity set continues to grow despite a volatile macro environment. We have a steady pipeline built out for Q2 and aim to continue to execute on our strategy with discipline. Patrick, back over to you. Patrick WernigCFO at Four Corners Property Trust00:09:39Thanks, Josh. I'll start by talking about capital sourcing and the state of our balance sheet. At FCPT, we are highly focused on official capital raising. We raised over $169 million in 2025 to date on top of the $318 million equity in 2024. Today, we have $254 million of unsettled equity forwards. The ability to raise forward ATM quickly and at scale has allowed us to match sources and uses more effectively. Furthermore, the high SOFR rate has allowed for minimum drag of our forward balance, given we receive interest income on the balance at over 4%. With respect to overall leverage, our net debt to adjusted EBITDA rate in Q1 continued to move lower to 4.4 times, inclusive of outstanding net equity forwards as of 31 March. Patrick WernigCFO at Four Corners Property Trust00:10:25This leverage is at a seven-year low and provides capacity for us to continue to execute our business plan, even if the current volatility persists or we are unable to raise additional capital for the rest of the year. We've also layered in additional hedges to our floating rate exposure, raising us to over 95% fixed through Q3 2027. Our revolver is fully available at $350 million, and we have, with extension options, essentially no debt maturities for nearly two years. Additionally, our fixed charge coverage ratio is a healthy 4.4 times. Altogether, this puts us in a great liquidity position. We have approximately $617 million available for funding acquisitions between cash, unsettled forward equity, and undrawn revolver capacity. Assuming no further equity issuance, we have an approximate $565 million of available capital before reaching six times net leverage. Now, turning to some of our financial highlights for Q1. Patrick WernigCFO at Four Corners Property Trust00:11:18We reported Q1 AFFO of $0.44 per share, which is up 2.3% from Q1 last year. Q1 cash rental income was $63.2 million, representing growth of 9.1% for the quarter compared to last year. On a run rate basis, current annual cash-based rent for leases in place as of quarter end is $243.9 million, and our weighted average five-year annual cash rent escalator remains 1.4%. Cash G&A expense, excluding stock-based compensation, was $4.9 million, representing 7.7% of cash rental income for the quarter, compared to 7.9% for the quarter last year. This progress illustrates our continued efforts at efficient growth and the benefits of improving scale. We're still expecting cash G&A will be in the range of $18 to $18.5 million for 2025. As a reminder, we take a conservative approach and do not capitalize any of the compensation costs related to our investment team. Patrick WernigCFO at Four Corners Property Trust00:12:13As for managing our lease maturity profile, our team has made significant progress on 2025 maturities, with 88% of those tenants already extending their leases or indicating an intent to do so. As of quarter end, expirations represent just 0.5% of ABR in 2026 is 2.3%. Our portfolio occupancy today is 99.4%, and we collected 99.5% of base rent for the Q1. There were no material changes to our collectibility or credit reserves, nor any balance sheet impairments. With that, we'll turn it back over to Becky for questions. Operator00:12:48Thank you. If you wish to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad now. If for any reason you wish to remove your question, please press star followed by two. When preparing to ask your question, please ensure your device is unmuted locally. Our first question comes from John Kilichowski from Wells Fargo. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. John KilichowskiVice President of Equity Research at Wells Fargo00:13:13Morning or afternoon. Thank you. Maybe just on a little bit of slight yield compression in the quarter. Is that due to the fact that there's maybe more competition in your sectors for these assets given the insulation from tariffs? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:13:33Hard to say. I would say the vast majority is related to the high percentage of QSR restaurant acquisitions in the quarter. John KilichowskiVice President of Equity Research at Wells Fargo00:13:43Okay. Maybe just on the pipeline more generally, you have a big fourth quarter followed up with a very strong first quarter. What's your governor on growth and maybe just some color around what your pipeline looks like? I'm curious. Patrick, you talked about smart capital raising. I'm curious if that's it or if it's just the amount of deals or if it's the size of your team. I'm curious what keeps you from maybe taking up a step further from here. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:14:09Sure. John, maybe just to more completely answer your first question, I think if we were targeting sectors that were very exposed to tariffs, we would have a much higher cap rate, obviously. As the great research you published recently, we have very low tariff exposure in our portfolio. As far as governors to growth, that's a much longer answer, but I think the kind of acquisitions that we're working on is what largely determines how much we buy in a quarter. Whether it's sale-leasebacks, which were prominent in this quarter and in Q4, are much more efficient. Individual one-off deals, it becomes challenging to have that many balls in the air on $2 million acquisitions, $3 million acquisitions to put up larger volumes. We really do not look at it that way. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:15:14We're trying to score assets and buy assets that have sufficient quality and then making sure that we raise the money the right way. I think we feel particularly proud over the last couple of years that when the environment was sufficient for acquisitions, but our cost of capital wasn't there, we responsibly paused. When there was alignment where there were acquisitions to do and our cost of capital was there, we acted with emphasis. John KilichowskiVice President of Equity Research at Wells Fargo00:15:49All right. Thank you. Operator00:15:54Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Goldsmith from UBS. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Catherine BeardAnalyst at UBS00:16:05Hi. This is Catherine Beard on for Michael. Thank you for taking my question. My first, just looking at the volume that you achieved in Q1 last year, the acquisition sort of ramped up through the year. Can you provide any color on what you're expecting as far as the cadence for this year, especially starting at such a higher base? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:16:26Yeah. Q4 has historically been a very strong quarter for us. I'm not sure why, Catherine, to be honest with you. There's a dynamic where people want to get things done in a fiscal year, perhaps. We have a very good pipeline right now. Deals typically have 60 to 90 day sort of life cycles. Sixty would be a minimum. We really do not have a lot of visibility on the second half of the year. Certainly, with all the macro uncertainty, it's very hard to tell. We are staffed and capitalized and very focused and organized in executing the rest of the year. We do not give guidance because really we want to make sure that we have the best sort of decision-making hygiene in making acquisitions. Catherine BeardAnalyst at UBS00:17:24Fair enough. Thank you. My second question. You acquired several Burger Kings in this past quarter, and I'm sure you saw there was recently a large franchisee who filed for bankruptcy. Is your sense that this was sort of a franchisee-specific issue, or has anything changed as far as how you monitor the health of your Burger King tenants? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:17:45Very much a specific issue to that franchisee. Catherine BeardAnalyst at UBS00:17:52Got it. Thank you. Operator00:17:56Thank you. Our next question comes from Anthony Paolone from JPMorgan. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Anthony PaoloneExecutive Director at JPMorgan00:18:05Yeah. Thank you. I know this may not be completely apples to apples because I understand the skew towards QSRs with your cap rates, but we do see some of the other net lease names doing deals in the sevens. I was wondering if you can maybe give us some sense as to maybe how you see the difference between going from, say, high sixes into the low mid-sevens and what the give and take might be there. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:18:36We certainly see things that are for sale that are—let's not draw too fine a point on it—call it seven and a half caps in North. They typically have—they're either in subsectors that we don't like, like pharmacy or experiential, or that we haven't historically been involved with, or the credit isn't very good, or the rents are really high. All those factors show up in our scorecard to scores that are insufficient for us to proceed. Now, that doesn't mean that there isn't one transaction where you feel like you're getting a great price or another transaction where you see real strategic reasons to lean in by 20 basis points or something like that. On average, what we have seen is that cap rates that are higher enough from what we're posting to matter involve measurably more risk. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:19:44I would say that one of the things that's, I think, very helpful about our reporting regime is you know what we're buying for that cap rate. What we see some of our peers do is pursue what I would call barbell strategies where they disclose tenants that shareholders are happy that they're buying, but disclose a cap rate that involves a bunch of tenants that they don't talk about. I think our straightforward, very transparent strategy should give you comfort that what we're buying is thoughtfully selected and not to hit some metric for a quarterly disclosure. Anthony PaoloneExecutive Director at JPMorgan00:20:30Okay. Thanks. Just on the pipeline, are there any larger-type transactions that you see in the mix, or is it pretty much all the one-by-ones? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:20:44It's a mix. We're always working on larger transactions. We have a handful in the hopper. I would reflect that we haven't really seen a dynamic where there's portfolio discounts. In fact, in some cases, we found that the larger transactions have more competition. I think we saw that clearly in a large transaction that one of our peers did last winter. It's a mix, Anthony, but I also wouldn't say that large transactions come at bargain prices by any means. Anthony PaoloneExecutive Director at JPMorgan00:21:22Okay. Thanks. Operator00:21:26Thank you. Our next question comes from Wes Golladay from Baird. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Wes GolladaySenior Research Analyst at Baird00:21:34Hey, good morning, guys. Can you talk about how you underwrite the smaller franchisees? I think you mentioned you do get a corporate guarantee, but how small are some of these franchisees? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:21:46Yeah. Our small franchisees, I think, would be considered very large for our peers. We do not have a ton of franchisee exposure, and the franchisee exposure we have tends to be with Franchise Times 100 type size franchisees. We get financials. We do a typical credit underwriting, but franchisee credit is not a big part of our business. I would say the dynamic where some of our peers will sort of put people into business by buying real estate for them or developing real estate for them, and by definition, that is a very, very small sort of individual-sized business entity, is not something we do. Wes GolladaySenior Research Analyst at Baird00:22:34Okay. You have been building up the team, developing a lot of new relationships over the last few years. Just curious how much the new deal flow is from these new relationships. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:22:48There's some of that, but a lot of it is, frankly, deals that we have been tracking for years and now have an advantage cost of capital, and sellers are more willing to meet us on price because of the overall macro uncertainty. I don't think it's the algorithm isn't something like new acquisition person at six months has four relationships and at 12 months has eight, and therefore you can count on deal flow from that. We have been doing more outreach recently. As you mentioned, we've expanded our acquisition team. We have the largest acquisition class coming in this summer of three folks out of undergrad and two interns, and we're really excited to get them up to speed. I think they'll make a real impact. Wes GolladaySenior Research Analyst at Baird00:23:41Okay. Thanks. Operator00:23:45Thank you. Our next question comes from Kyle Katorincek from Janney. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Kyle KatorincekVice President of Equity Research at Janney00:23:53Hey, good morning, guys. Where is the range of EBITDA coverage ratios for recent acquisitions, and is there any difference between restaurant and non-restaurant segments there? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:24:02Yeah. We do not disclose on a quarterly basis coverage ratios. Obviously, we have to sign confidentiality agreements to get financials, and I do not think we are going to be in a position to disclose those on a quarterly basis. I would say I think the credit metrics are fairly similar across the different industries, although I would say within medical, it is a little bit harder to define four-wall because you might have a patient who is visiting our retail outpatient center, for example, but also as part of their care going to the hospital system that it is associated with. Saying that that four-wall is X is a little bit more ambiguous. The credit is very similar on a corporate leverage basis, being in the mid-single digits, and four-wall coverage being typically three plus times. Kyle KatorincekVice President of Equity Research at Janney00:25:07Okay. At what point would you guys consider lease too conservative where there's potential opportunity costs in the form of lost rents? On the flip side, what point would you feel uncomfortable underwriting a new lease in terms of coverage? Just trying to get a range of how you guys think about that. Thanks. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:25:24Yeah. If I understand your question, could we take more risk and still be in a safe position? Kyle KatorincekVice President of Equity Research at Janney00:25:34Yeah. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:25:34If that's the gist of... Kyle KatorincekVice President of Equity Research at Janney00:25:35Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, then upper limit too conservative of the coverage ratio. At what point is that? Is that six and a half times? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:25:44Sure. Sure. I guess I'd make two reflections to backtest, are we being too conservative? We do go back and look at things that we looked at and didn't do. It's very clear to us that the outcomes of the things that we passed on are far less favorable than what we've done. Okay? That's both in taking buildings that to the naked eye, it's a brand, it's a business that we bought, it's a brand that we've bought, but what you can't see is the lease is too short or the rents are too high or the tenant has bad financials. Very frequently things that we've looked at and passed on have turned out to be unfortunate outcomes. That's one. Two, I would observe that rents on net lease are relatively random. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:26:44You may have a Burger King that has $70,000 worth of rent and one that has $107,000 worth of rent and one that has $170,000 worth of rent, and they look exactly the same other than their rent number. The coverage would obviously be way different on the $70,000 worth of rent than the $170,000. I think a big part of our job is searching for properties that have great performance but reasonable rents. I do not think that there is an upper limit of what we would consider. Obviously, when that lease matures, which is usually very far into the future given extension options, we have some rent upside and we have experienced some positive outcomes there. The last thing I would point out is maybe a different answer to your question. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:27:33Having gone through the financial crisis earlier in my career, the dot-com bust very early in my career, COVID, more recently, there is a dynamic where when there's substantial uncertainty and you have the ability to be on offense, there's enormous advantage to that. We go into this current environment with the lowest leverage we've had in a long time. We have more liquidity from undrawn forwards than we've had in a long time, and we have a portfolio that's in fantastic shape. If the issue is we might be a little bit too conservative historically, I'll take that in order to be in a position to be aggressive if opportunities knock. Kyle KatorincekVice President of Equity Research at Janney00:28:20Thank you. I appreciate the context. Operator00:28:25Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from RJ Milligan from Raymond James. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. RJ MilliganSenior Research Analyst at Raymond James00:28:39Yeah. Hey, good afternoon, guys. Bill, you talked about running leverage at the lowest level it's been in quite some time, if not ever. I'm just curious, given the fact that your cost of capital is attractive here, how do you think about potentially further delevering or loading up the balance sheet for opportunities that might arise later? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:29:00Yeah. It's a great question. I think the interesting dynamic is, as Pat mentioned, when SOFR is 4% and so that you pay your dividend, in essence, on the forward and you receive SOFR, and there's some fees involved, but that's the basic building blocks. The cost of having this liquidity is very low. When rates were zero and you're paying a 5% dividend, shucks, it gets expensive if you have too much of a forward and you're not using it in a timely manner. We felt that the opportunity cost of having substantial liquidity was very minimal. We were opportunistic because of the fee structure of the ATM. Just so everyone's clear, ATM has been the technology we've used to raise equity almost exclusively for something like the last seven or eight years. It has a very advantaged fee and discount structure. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:30:09When that capital was available, because the opportunity cost of holding that forward position was minimal, we took advantage of it. I think that puts us in a really good position. When I say it's volatile out there, it's not sort of my opinion. You can look at the VIX, and it's a quite volatile environment, but we love being very liquid when there's stress in the streets. RJ MilliganSenior Research Analyst at Raymond James00:30:43Okay. Bill, you had given some same-store stats on some of the tenants at the beginning of the call. Obviously, concerns out there that we might head into a recession, downturn. Obviously, the data has been pretty mixed. If we were to see a downturn or a recession, how do you think that might change the pipeline, whether it be volume, competition, or pricing? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:31:10We went through COVID, and our portfolio performed extremely well, but I wouldn't say there were bargains to be had on any sustained basis during that time. This is a different scenario. I think our portfolio will perform very well. We're essentially 100% occupied, so I can't promise that it would improve because it's about as full as it can be, but I think we'd be in a really good position. Do we then have interesting opportunities to deploy capital in acquisitions? Unclear. To an earlier question, we tend to target sectors that have less targeted tariff exposure. There's been two Wall Street research reports on the net lease industry and tariff exposure. I think we were sort of the most favorable of the industry in both of those. I'd encourage you to track them down. Will we get this situation where we have really interesting investment opportunities? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:32:14I can't say for sure. I can say that we have the money for it. We have the people for it. We are focused on it, but we need the market to come to us to find high-quality deals that we can buy at better than historic prices. RJ MilliganSenior Research Analyst at Raymond James00:32:32Okay. That's helpful. Thanks, guys. Operator00:32:37Thank you. Our next question comes from Jason Wayne from Barclays. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Jason WayneVice President of Equity Research at Barclays00:32:46Hi. Good afternoon. Rent collections ticked up a bit this quarter. They're still strong, but I'm just wondering what types of tenants are non-paying now and if you're working on anything at those properties to increase the collections numbers further? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:33:03Yeah. It's basically one tenant. We have a personal guarantee from that tenant that we're pursuing, and we've made substantial progress releasing the buildings. It is very, very small, sort of a one-off thing. Jason WayneVice President of Equity Research at Barclays00:33:24What kind of releasing spreads have you gotten on trade-offs like that historically? Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:33:29Yeah. It's just a couple of buildings. I think we'll be in a good spot, but we're not going to comment on ongoing lease negotiations when it's only a couple of buildings. Jason WayneVice President of Equity Research at Barclays00:33:42All right. Thank you for the questions. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:33:45Yep. Operator00:33:47Thank you. Our next question comes from Jim Kammert from Evercore. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Jim KammertManaging Director at Evercore00:33:55Thank you. Thanks for the time. Kind of a bigger picture question, Bill. You mentioned you're building acquisition staff and have been. You've got the balance sheet in a great position. Are you adding other sort of capabilities or data sets to your underwriting? I know you've been pleased with Dealpath Technology, etc., to date, but I'm just curious how you're setting up for the next phase of growth and if that entails any other incremental steps that you're doing to further enhance the underwriting. Thanks. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:34:23That's a really good question. I think like every company, we're trying to figure out how AI will make us more efficient. I think we have just more people to work on projects and to explore potential new industries. We've built substantially more muscle in our asset management group with some really exciting hires there that are getting up to speed. Historically, we didn't need much of that function, but as we have added several hundred buildings, it's become...our portfolio is in fantastic shape, but there's more to do. I'm really excited, as I said, about the new folks that are joining. They'll be able to use the technology that we have. We'll be able to put more emphasis on automating things that can be automated, but there's a lot that we can do with the existing technology that we have. Bill LenehanCEO at Four Corners Property Trust00:35:24As you mentioned, Dealpath is an integral part of running our business, and we've done a number of investor sessions where we take people through our underwriting and Dealpath. If there are those who'd like to do that, we'd be more than happy to do it. I think investors have almost universally found it a valuable 45 minutes of their time. Jim KammertManaging Director at Evercore00:35:50Thank you for your time. Operator00:35:54Thank you. We currently have no further questions. This concludes our Q&A and consequently today's call. Thank you for joining us. You may now disconnect your lines.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesJoshua ZhangChief Investment OfficerPatrick WernigCFOBill LenehanCEOAnalystsAnthony PaoloneExecutive Director at JPMorganJim KammertManaging Director at EvercoreJason WayneVice President of Equity Research at BarclaysCatherine BeardAnalyst at UBSKyle KatorincekVice President of Equity Research at JanneyJohn KilichowskiVice President of Equity Research at Wells FargoWes GolladaySenior Research Analyst at BairdRJ MilliganSenior Research Analyst at Raymond JamesPowered by