NASDAQ:SAMG Silvercrest Asset Management Group Q1 2025 Earnings Report $11.96 -0.08 (-0.66%) As of 02:59 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Silvercrest Asset Management Group EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.27Consensus EPS $0.36Beat/MissMissed by -$0.09One Year Ago EPSN/ASilvercrest Asset Management Group Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$31.39 millionExpected Revenue$33.21 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$1.82 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ASilvercrest Asset Management Group Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date5/8/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateFriday, May 9, 2025Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsSilvercrest Asset Management Group's Q2 2026 earnings is estimated for Thursday, July 30, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled on Friday, July 31, 2026 at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Silvercrest Asset Management Group Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 9, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Strong organic flows of $400 M in Q1 and $1.8 B over two quarters signal robust new client growth. Total AUM declined to $34.3 B amid market volatility, which is expected to continue impacting short-term revenue. Ongoing strategic investments in talent and global expansion (Europe, Singapore, Southeast Asia, Atlanta) underpin a sturdy institutional pipeline, notably in the Global Value strategy. Completed a $12 M stock repurchase program and declared a $0.20 quarterly dividend, reflecting a healthy capital return policy. Q1 revenue rose 3.7% to $31.4 M with net income of $3.9 M, but expenses jumped 9% due to higher compensation and G&A costs, resulting in an adjusted EPS of $0.29. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallSilvercrest Asset Management Group Q1 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning and welcome to the Silvercrest Asset Management Group Q1 2025 earnings conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. Before we begin, let me remind you that during today's call, certain statements made regarding our future performance are forward-looking statements. They are based on current expectations and projections, which are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, and many factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the statements that are made. Those factors are disclosed in our filings with the SEC under the caption risk factors. For all such forward-looking statements, we claim the protections provided by the Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Operator00:01:01All forward-looking statements made on this call are made as of the date hereof, and Silvercrest assumes no obligation to update them. I would now like to turn the conference over to Rick Hough, Chairman and CEO of Silvercrest. Please go ahead. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:01:17Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our first quarter 2025 conference call for Silvercrest. We experienced strong new client organic flows of $0.4 billion during the first quarter this year. The new assets under management follow on the significant new client flows of $1.4 billion in the fourth quarter of 2024, for a total of $1.8 billion over the past two quarters in new client accounts. Our first quarter's new client account flow was in itself stronger than some recent years in total, and Silvercrest Strategic Investments continued to promote our growth. The increases during the quarter bode well for future revenue, and we remain highly optimistic about securing more significant organic flows over the course of 2025, as we discussed during our last call. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:02:06Total AUM did decline during the quarter as a result of highly volatile markets amidst global economic and trade concerns, and our discretionary AUM now stands at $22.7 billion as of the end of the quarter, which is flat year over year, and our total AUM was $34.3 billion. We expect continued market volatility to affect our short-term results and top-line revenue. That said, we believe market and economic dislocations present meaningful opportunities for our business. Strategically, we will continue to pursue more initiatives to better highlight Silvercrest in both the institutional and wealth markets. The firm has invested in talent across the firm to drive new growth and successfully transition the business toward our next generation. The new business pipeline remains robust. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:02:53Silvercrest will continue to monitor and adjust our interim compensation ratio to match important investments in the business as long as we have compelling opportunities to grow the firm and build our return on invested capital. We will keep you informed of our plans and the progress of these investments. We also completed a $12 million stock repurchase program. We will continue to look for opportunities to return capital to or accrete shareholders, especially as we invest in the business. Our strong balance sheet supports ongoing capital returns as well as our growth initiatives. On May 5th, the company declared a quarterly dividend of $0.20 per share of Class A common stock, and that will be paid on or about June 20th of this year to stockholders of record. Scott will now cover our financial highlights, and then we'll go to questions. Over to you, Scott. Scott GerardCFO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:03:44Thank you, Rick. As disclosed in our earnings release for the first quarter, discretionary AUM as of March 31 was $22.7 billion, and total AUM as of the same period was $35.3 billion. Revenue for the quarter was $31.4 million, and reported consolidated net income for the quarter was $3.9 million. Revenue for the quarter increased year over year by $1.1 million, or 3.7%, primarily driven by market appreciation during the 12-month period. Expenses for the quarter increased year over year by $2.2 million, or 9%, primarily driven by increased compensation and benefits expense and general and administrative expenses. Compensation expenses for the quarter increased year over year by $1.2 million, or 6.9%, primarily due to increases in equity-based compensation and salaries and benefits expenses, primarily as a result of merit-based increases, partially offset by decreases in the accrual for bonuses and a decrease in severance expense. Scott GerardCFO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:04:59General and administrative expenses increased by $1 million, or approximately 14.6%, primarily due to increases in professional fees, portfolio systems expense, recruiting costs, marketing and advertising, and travel and entertainment expenses. Reported net income attributable to Silvercrest or to Class A shareholders for the first quarter was approximately $2.5 million, or $0.26 per basic and diluted Class A share. Adjusted EBITDA, which we define as EBITDA without giving effect to equity-based compensation expense and non-core and non-recurring items, was approximately $6.5 million, or 20.7% of revenue for the quarter. Adjusted net income, which we define as net income without giving effect to non-core and non-recurring items and income tax expense assuming a corporate rate of 26%, was approximately $3.9 million for the quarter, or $0.29 and $0.27 for adjusted basic and diluted earnings per share, respectively. Scott GerardCFO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:06:10Adjusted earnings per share is equal to adjusted net income divided by the actual Class A and Class B shares outstanding as of the end of the reporting period for basic adjusted EPS, and to the extent diluted, we add unvested restricted stock units and non-qualified stock options to the total shares outstanding to compute diluted adjusted EPS. Looking quickly at the balance sheet, total assets were approximately $159.9 million as of March 31 compared to $194.4 million as of the end of 2024. Cash and cash equivalents were approximately $36.3 million as of March 31 compared to $68.6 million at the end of 2024. Please keep in mind that cash at March 31 is net of the payout of 2024 bonuses. Scott GerardCFO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:07:08There were no borrowings as of March 31, and total Class A stockholders' equity was approximately $80 million as of the end of the first quarter of this year. That concludes my remarks. I'll now turn the call over for Q&A. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:07:25Thank you, Scott. I'm ready to take questions. Thank you. Operator00:07:29We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then one, on your touch-tone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question comes from Sandy Mehta with Evaluate Research. Please go ahead. Sandy MehtaCEO and Founder at Evaluate Research00:08:03Yes, thank you. Good morning. Could you comment and give a little bit more color on the pipeline and what you're seeing for OCIO as well as global going forward? Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:08:16Sure. Thanks, Sandy. Good morning. A couple of broad comments on the pipeline. With regards to OCIO and the pipeline overall, I think I mentioned last quarter, we're in an environment where the nature of searches has really changed a lot. It's no longer really an RFP game. It's about cultivating consultant relationships, putting yourself in a position where you're invited to participate in a search. Very often, you're getting a call incoming identifying that there's interest in one of our strategies and asking us to participate. We've been working very hard on building those relationships. We've always had very good consultant relationships, Sandy. Domestically, we've been expanding them internationally, and part of the investment that we've been making in the firm has been to make sure that we're taking advantage of those opportunities, especially abroad. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:09:22Some of the hiring is with regards to client care and business development with those consultants. That said, I had mentioned that I'm not going to be measuring the pipeline going forward as we had in the past. Traditionally, we had a great process of being able to keep shareholders up to date on an apples-to-apples basis, but we're beginning to feel that that's not quite credible. I'm going to speak this morning more about the color of what we're feeling and happy to talk more about it. Generally speaking, I feel very, very confident about the pipeline we have in global value in particular. As I've said, the potential there is absolutely enormous. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:10:09The number of contacts that we have globally are very strong, and I feel optimistic not only about a very large second seed investment at some point in 2025, but follow-on flows into that strategy. We are about to complete the building of an Australian trust along with potential distribution so that we can take in other assets aside from institutional assets in that strategy. We are working on a UCITS in Europe for that and other strategies at the firm. I am quite optimistic. OCIO pipeline has slowed, lots of activity in the pipeline, but nothing I would measure really strongly in the pipeline. I remain optimistic that those flows will pick back up. Currently, that strategy stands at about $1.8 billion at the firm. Our international value strategies have put up absolutely top-tier great numbers. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:11:20There's lots of good activity around that, and I feel quite strong about our ability to build those assets. There's quite a few areas of the firm that I feel strongly about in terms of our growth looking out over the next two or three years, which should really help. Generally, as you would take from my introductory remarks, quite positive tone about what we're seeing. The only negative I would point out is that, of course, we had a pullback in AUM due to volatile markets, Sandy, and that overwhelmed good news. It's going to happen at our size. Nothing we can do about it. As you know, that's just part of the business. It's going to come up and help us sometimes. It's going to hurt us. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:12:12Important to look at what's happening organically, and I feel very strongly that the organic picture looks very good. However, when you have market turmoil like this, as much as I like the opportunities for the company and what we can do, and we've always performed well in those environments, happy to talk more about it, it also means that asset allocators, not unlike investors generally in the high-net-worth space or elsewhere, kind of looking around, taking a pause, thinking carefully about what they're going to do. The effect of this volatility, uncertainty about global trade and the global macro environment, it certainly can hurt us short-term as it did in the first quarter. Obviously, markets have become more constructive since then, thankfully, although they were down, I guess, in April as well to some extent. It also affects the search environment. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:13:03We are going through a little bit of period here of hesitation that we've got to work through, but it doesn't change my medium to long-term optimistic tone. Sandy MehtaCEO and Founder at Evaluate Research00:13:15In the global area, your team is now fully built out, and how's the investment performance result? Has that still been quite satisfactory? Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:13:26Just about fully built out. We're still working on those consultant business relationships that I told you about. As the assets grow there, there may be some other things that we'll add, but we've added analysts, we've added business development support, we've added international trading, etc. Yeah, we're getting there. I'm sorry, the second part of your question, Sandy, was performance I got. Sandy MehtaCEO and Founder at Evaluate Research00:13:52Oh, yeah. Performance is good. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:13:54Yes. Performance is outstanding. Very, very good. Not only against the value benchmark they measure against, but against the core benchmark, which interestingly we've been beating. We are going into the market not just with a great win and potential big pipeline, but we are going into the market with very, very strong performance. That performance, by the way, was very good despite the volatile markets. It was not just relative outperformance. We had good absolute performance in that strategy. Quite remarkable. Sandy MehtaCEO and Founder at Evaluate Research00:14:34Okay. Great. It was good to see the buyback. Could you just update us at what price you bought back stock, and where are you now on the authorization looking forward on the buyback? Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:14:47Yeah. We're done with the buyback. We authorized $12 million. We finished it, I believe, what are we in? We finished it last month. We felt really good about the buyback over the past two months or so. We were able, you may have noticed, a really nice volume uptick in our stock. We were able to affect some block trades, which was part of that higher volume. We've been working closely to identify where we can buy stock back. We felt great about that execution. We felt good about being able to do it in volume rather than being subject to just the daily volume restrictions. We'll be looking at that and perhaps some other things going forward if we were to announce another buyback. With regards to buybacks in particular, there's a reason I mentioned it in my introductory remarks. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:15:50I think at a time when we see so much opportunity that we have to invest in the business and admittedly hit EBITDA and earnings the way we have, that it makes sense if we have the capital to accrete shareholders or return capital, depending on what their wishes may be, at the same time that we're doing that. We are in a really nice position with a super healthy balance sheet and capital structure where we can contemplate such a thing. I think it's a great investment on behalf of shareholders given the potential I see. We will be evaluating that once again since the $12 million buyback is complete. Sandy MehtaCEO and Founder at Evaluate Research00:16:41All right. Great. Thank you. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:16:43You're welcome, Sandy. Thanks. Operator00:16:46Our next question comes from Chris Sakai with Singular Research. Please go ahead. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:16:52Good morning, Chris. Chris SakaiEquity Research Analyst at Singular Research00:16:55Yes, good morning. Just wanted to ask about the global expansion. How are things in Europe and Singapore? Can you add some color as to the AUM there? Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:17:11Yeah. The AUM is a little difficult, and I'm not going to go about measuring that in our calls, Chris, because we have clients who may be domiciled in South Asia or in Europe, but they may have accounts here in the United States or other offshore places. Yet they themselves, we consider Southeast Asian or European clients. We've long had them. That includes across both the institutional and high-net-worth businesses. Given the global nature of families in particular, you'd be hard-pressed to say sometimes whether they're in New York, Singapore, or Europe. I'll give you more color instead of absolute AUM numbers because we've always had those clients. In particular, we see strong opportunity based on the meetings we're having and, in fact, new clients that we've received. I'll talk about the build-out. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:18:19With regards to Europe, on the high-net-worth side, first and foremost, we've always had very significant relationships there: Netherlands, Switzerland, Germany, U.K., and offshore places that you would consider "European." We also have new relationships, as you know, in Poland, which is an incredibly fast-growing economy. I think I've mentioned before, just as an example, now wealthier per capita than the U.K. and will soon, on a per capita basis, surpass Japan, meaning this year or next year, a real dynamo in Europe. We're excited to be kind of an early mover with some of those families. What we're changing is the fact that we would like to be able to proactively market in Europe. We can't do that. Right now, we can only take inbound calls and people who are expressing interest in Silvercrest reaching out to us. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:19:20We have done well with people just reaching out to us. What we have done and we will be spending capital on, Chris, is we have established a European entity. We are going through the process of working with the regulators so that we are licensed to proactively market and be a fully licensed participant in the European market. We will be pursuing a U.K. presence as well and have been laying the groundwork for that, frankly, for probably six years. We are very diligent and careful before we step in and commit meaningful amounts of capital. That process is proceeding, and we will have our European license so that we can much more proactively market. I would say within the next, to be conservative, eight to ten months, but I think it will be sooner than that. It could be as soon as six months, something like that. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:20:20In Southeast Asia, as you know, we're fully licensed in Singapore, the MAS. We now have people there. We will be adding people there given the opportunities that we see in the meetings that we've been having with prospective clients. We do have clients in Southeast Asia, including in Singapore. I just got back from a trip with potential partners and OCIO clients as well as to meet talent who can bring in AUM. We will keep you posted on that. We've taken a very long, steady approach. Again, this has been a multi-year effort that we've been very careful about committing capital to until we know that we can succeed, and we're kind of at that point where I feel we can do so. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:21:03On the institutional side, you well know that the global value strategy, in particular, our international value strategy as well, are seeing significant interest from that side of the planet, whether that's in, we'll just call it broader Asia or in Australia. That remains very, very promising. It's very important for us to have a presence in that time zone to help us execute that business. With regards to Europe, we've always had institutional business in Europe. We have people who distribute for us there. We have a good relationship, I've mentioned before, with Edmond de Rothschild. There are other partners we're working with who will be marketing on our behalf. I told you about the UCITS just a moment ago that we're building on behalf of the global value strategy and other strategies. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:21:57Those obviously are all European-based flows, and I expect a lot more to come of that given our consultant relationships. Chris SakaiEquity Research Analyst at Singular Research00:22:07Okay. Great. Thanks for that answer. Just on the share buyback, can you share any color on potentially a new buyback and the amount there and how much that would be? Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:22:21I think I've given comments that we're very seriously looking at it, Chris, and why we would want to execute it, especially as we make investments that, at least for the meantime, have a higher compensation ratio for the firm and therefore hit our earnings in EBITDA. We're very conscious of that. We feel great about what we're doing. We forecast what we were doing explicitly for a long time before we did it. I think we've strategically laid out our plan. I'd like to return capital to our shareholders or accrete them while we do this so that they can benefit at what I think is a good entry point as we see this growth occur, just as I've announced these new accounts that have come in the past two quarters. We will assess the amount and when that may occur. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:23:14I'm not ready to make announcements along those lines at this time. Chris SakaiEquity Research Analyst at Singular Research00:23:19Okay. Great. Thanks for the answers. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:23:22Thank you, Chris. Appreciate the questions. Operator00:23:26Again, if you have a question, please press star, then one. Our next question comes from Christopher Marinac with Janney Montgomery Scott. Please go ahead. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:23:37Hi, Christopher. Good morning. Christopher MarinacDirector of Research at Janney Montgomery Scott00:23:39Hey, good morning. Thanks for hosting us this morning. Rick and Scott, I want to drill down on expenses and kind of the timing of sort of getting additional revenue versus expenses. It's the old-fashioned operating leverage question. I know you can't run this quarter to quarter. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:23:54Yeah. It's super hard to give. Chris SakaiEquity Research Analyst at Singular Research00:23:55How do you think? Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:23:55It's super hard to give clarity to, to be honest. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Christopher MarinacDirector of Research at Janney Montgomery Scott00:24:00The big picture is still to kind of get that positive crank as you think about it year to year. Perhaps we should think about this year over year and less quarter to quarter. I'm just curious how you think about that in the big picture. It's less about next quarter and more about kind of how you look at running the business. I know it's a long-term focus and goal. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:24:17Yeah, it really is. I think the last call I talked about working through this through the end of 2026. Part of the reason is this. Let's tear apart the—and obviously, this is a much longer play than that. You're asking about the operating leverage. I get it. I think we're going to grow into it. Let's break it apart. First of all, we have the investments we've made in the global value equity team. We've built out a lot on that team, but there's a bit more to come. The pipeline there is huge, absolutely enormous. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:24:53I do think, as I've mentioned across that, the international value team, which is separate from the global value team, as you know, and our other growth and value equity capabilities are hurt right now a bit by the global macro environment and trade environment, just as the markets came down. The search environment was slowing a bit. I feel very strongly that the opportunity is significant. That team, on its own, is going to grow year over year, definitely through those costs and start giving us leverage. Of course, it's a nicely leverageable business, which will benefit the entire firm. I feel strongly about that. These flows can be so big that I hesitate to give you a forecast on what that can really mean for the firm. Timing is everything, of course. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:25:54There's a lot of variability when you're talking about large flows like that. The best I can say is that I'm optimistic. I would hesitate to say more, but very bright. We have the investments in Southeast Asia, which has been ongoing, and the new investments we're making in Europe. We're also, as you know, building out organic growth in Atlanta, Georgia. There are people we're hiring there and have been. There are capital expenditures with regards to those locations. They hang together with the global impression we're making with our strategies. We've always done things where the institutional business is applicable and related to the high-net-worth business. I'm not building a firm where you're doing something disparate over there, and you've got strategy B that doesn't hang together with attracting very significant large families. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:26:56Those, by the nature of the high-net-worth business, are slower growing. The advantage there, of course, Christopher, is that they are very, very sticky assets and a very different business once you get that crank going. We have a history of being able to organically grow that business, which is incredibly difficult. That is going to take a bit more time as we lean into it. In our experience, when you have the kind of environment we do, when you have the quality of the firm that we do, and the nature of what we can do on an institutional level for these families that help Silvercrest stand apart, we succeed. That requires a bit more patience. The ultimate leverage, obviously, is going to be on the institutional side, and the faster growth is going to be on that side. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:27:52Not surprisingly, adds more leverage to the business, can grow faster. The other investments we make are going to be slower and stickier. It's very hard to say how that plays out, but that's going to be a longer-term game for sure. I do expect to see increasing margins year over year, especially as markets even out at some point, as we get to some trade deals. That should add operating leverages. I would love to see the pendulum start swinging back towards our normalized EBITDA margins. It's certainly my expectation that year over year, we will make progress. We're not going to be back to normal, however, in the high 20s or low 30s unless there are really, really big flows and have supportive markets at the same time. Therefore, I'm still looking out, at least through the end of 2026, and we'll keep folks updated. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:28:55Look, I feel very good. We've seen almost $2 billion in net new client accounts over the past two quarters. We were only hurt by the declining markets in the first quarter. The closed accounts were very attenuated. With a bit more supportive markets and some more flows, that's some pretty significant progress already, especially if I were to pause investments. I feel good year over year. I feel great as we look through 2026. Chris SakaiEquity Research Analyst at Singular Research00:29:33Great. At the end of the day. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:29:34It required more color than firm stats. I can't predict the future fully. Christopher MarinacDirector of Research at Janney Montgomery Scott00:29:40Yeah. Understand. I guess at the end of the day, as long as I've covered you, we see the AUM come in, and then your ability to retain that has been very good. Obviously, markets move quarter to quarter, but that's the point. You're going to bring that AUM in and the revenue flows. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:29:55Exactly. I will also mention we might take a bit of a pause. I am not saying that I already know anything. We were only a month into this quarter, but we may take a pause in the second quarter. That is okay. The reason I say that is clearly the search environment is affected by the current global macroeconomic environment. Okay. Let us look through that. So what? This is a long-term business, number one. Number two, there is always the potential for some tax outflows during the second quarter. There are two tax payments that are due. That is always going to be a bit of a headwind, even with supportive markets. We see that every year. Last year was, again, a very, very good capital gains year for a lot of our clients. I do not know how that is going to shake out, but it is worth keeping in mind. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:30:50We need those supported markets as well. Christopher MarinacDirector of Research at Janney Montgomery Scott00:30:55Great. Last question for me. There has been a lot of macro conversation the last five, six weeks about international investors pulling capital from the U.S. and going back home. Do you see any of that? Is that an issue for Silvercrest at all, or can you work through that given some of the other global strategies that you are now employing? Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:31:14We can work through that. First of all, the vast majority of our assets are U.S.-based. So not a significant issue for us. Secondly, we do have a global strategy. We have an emerging market strategy. We have an international strategy. Those are, by definition, purchasing companies around the world. And from what I see, there's tons of capital that needs to go into those strategies. And whether it's local currency or U.S., I don't see that changing. The United States is the world's largest economy. When we buy things from the rest of the world, the rest of the world ends up with dollars. Those dollars have to go somewhere. And I don't see that significantly affecting us or changing the environment. I just got back from Asia. I didn't see any personally as a subjective color. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:32:18There may be talk, and at the margins, there may be some of those moves. Look, it's a big world. We're a small company. There's a lot of opportunity. We were meeting with people because they were interested. I don't think that's a really significant issue for us at this time. Christopher MarinacDirector of Research at Janney Montgomery Scott00:32:39Great, Rick. Thank you for the background. I appreciate all the information today. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:32:43You're welcome, Christopher. Thanks for the questions. Operator00:32:48This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Rick Hough for any closing remarks. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:32:55Great. Thank you. I appreciate everyone joining us for this first quarter of 2025 call, the good questions. Also, greatly appreciate our shareholders who have been encouraging with regards to our long-term strategy and the investments we're making. I just want to make it clear to anyone, Scott and I are always available to take questions, talk about what we're up to. We're pretty excited over the next, call it, year. Certainly very excited for beyond that, given what we're building at the firm. Thanks again, and look forward to talking to everyone soon. Operator00:33:37The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning and welcome to the Silvercrest Asset Management Group Q1 2025 earnings conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. Before we begin, let me remind you that during today's call, certain statements made regarding our future performance are forward-looking statements. They are based on current expectations and projections, which are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, and many factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the statements that are made. Those factors are disclosed in our filings with the SEC under the caption risk factors. For all such forward-looking statements, we claim the protections provided by the Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Operator00:01:01All forward-looking statements made on this call are made as of the date hereof, and Silvercrest assumes no obligation to update them. I would now like to turn the conference over to Rick Hough, Chairman and CEO of Silvercrest. Please go ahead. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:01:17Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our first quarter 2025 conference call for Silvercrest. We experienced strong new client organic flows of $0.4 billion during the first quarter this year. The new assets under management follow on the significant new client flows of $1.4 billion in the fourth quarter of 2024, for a total of $1.8 billion over the past two quarters in new client accounts. Our first quarter's new client account flow was in itself stronger than some recent years in total, and Silvercrest Strategic Investments continued to promote our growth. The increases during the quarter bode well for future revenue, and we remain highly optimistic about securing more significant organic flows over the course of 2025, as we discussed during our last call. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:02:06Total AUM did decline during the quarter as a result of highly volatile markets amidst global economic and trade concerns, and our discretionary AUM now stands at $22.7 billion as of the end of the quarter, which is flat year over year, and our total AUM was $34.3 billion. We expect continued market volatility to affect our short-term results and top-line revenue. That said, we believe market and economic dislocations present meaningful opportunities for our business. Strategically, we will continue to pursue more initiatives to better highlight Silvercrest in both the institutional and wealth markets. The firm has invested in talent across the firm to drive new growth and successfully transition the business toward our next generation. The new business pipeline remains robust. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:02:53Silvercrest will continue to monitor and adjust our interim compensation ratio to match important investments in the business as long as we have compelling opportunities to grow the firm and build our return on invested capital. We will keep you informed of our plans and the progress of these investments. We also completed a $12 million stock repurchase program. We will continue to look for opportunities to return capital to or accrete shareholders, especially as we invest in the business. Our strong balance sheet supports ongoing capital returns as well as our growth initiatives. On May 5th, the company declared a quarterly dividend of $0.20 per share of Class A common stock, and that will be paid on or about June 20th of this year to stockholders of record. Scott will now cover our financial highlights, and then we'll go to questions. Over to you, Scott. Scott GerardCFO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:03:44Thank you, Rick. As disclosed in our earnings release for the first quarter, discretionary AUM as of March 31 was $22.7 billion, and total AUM as of the same period was $35.3 billion. Revenue for the quarter was $31.4 million, and reported consolidated net income for the quarter was $3.9 million. Revenue for the quarter increased year over year by $1.1 million, or 3.7%, primarily driven by market appreciation during the 12-month period. Expenses for the quarter increased year over year by $2.2 million, or 9%, primarily driven by increased compensation and benefits expense and general and administrative expenses. Compensation expenses for the quarter increased year over year by $1.2 million, or 6.9%, primarily due to increases in equity-based compensation and salaries and benefits expenses, primarily as a result of merit-based increases, partially offset by decreases in the accrual for bonuses and a decrease in severance expense. Scott GerardCFO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:04:59General and administrative expenses increased by $1 million, or approximately 14.6%, primarily due to increases in professional fees, portfolio systems expense, recruiting costs, marketing and advertising, and travel and entertainment expenses. Reported net income attributable to Silvercrest or to Class A shareholders for the first quarter was approximately $2.5 million, or $0.26 per basic and diluted Class A share. Adjusted EBITDA, which we define as EBITDA without giving effect to equity-based compensation expense and non-core and non-recurring items, was approximately $6.5 million, or 20.7% of revenue for the quarter. Adjusted net income, which we define as net income without giving effect to non-core and non-recurring items and income tax expense assuming a corporate rate of 26%, was approximately $3.9 million for the quarter, or $0.29 and $0.27 for adjusted basic and diluted earnings per share, respectively. Scott GerardCFO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:06:10Adjusted earnings per share is equal to adjusted net income divided by the actual Class A and Class B shares outstanding as of the end of the reporting period for basic adjusted EPS, and to the extent diluted, we add unvested restricted stock units and non-qualified stock options to the total shares outstanding to compute diluted adjusted EPS. Looking quickly at the balance sheet, total assets were approximately $159.9 million as of March 31 compared to $194.4 million as of the end of 2024. Cash and cash equivalents were approximately $36.3 million as of March 31 compared to $68.6 million at the end of 2024. Please keep in mind that cash at March 31 is net of the payout of 2024 bonuses. Scott GerardCFO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:07:08There were no borrowings as of March 31, and total Class A stockholders' equity was approximately $80 million as of the end of the first quarter of this year. That concludes my remarks. I'll now turn the call over for Q&A. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:07:25Thank you, Scott. I'm ready to take questions. Thank you. Operator00:07:29We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then one, on your touch-tone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question comes from Sandy Mehta with Evaluate Research. Please go ahead. Sandy MehtaCEO and Founder at Evaluate Research00:08:03Yes, thank you. Good morning. Could you comment and give a little bit more color on the pipeline and what you're seeing for OCIO as well as global going forward? Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:08:16Sure. Thanks, Sandy. Good morning. A couple of broad comments on the pipeline. With regards to OCIO and the pipeline overall, I think I mentioned last quarter, we're in an environment where the nature of searches has really changed a lot. It's no longer really an RFP game. It's about cultivating consultant relationships, putting yourself in a position where you're invited to participate in a search. Very often, you're getting a call incoming identifying that there's interest in one of our strategies and asking us to participate. We've been working very hard on building those relationships. We've always had very good consultant relationships, Sandy. Domestically, we've been expanding them internationally, and part of the investment that we've been making in the firm has been to make sure that we're taking advantage of those opportunities, especially abroad. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:09:22Some of the hiring is with regards to client care and business development with those consultants. That said, I had mentioned that I'm not going to be measuring the pipeline going forward as we had in the past. Traditionally, we had a great process of being able to keep shareholders up to date on an apples-to-apples basis, but we're beginning to feel that that's not quite credible. I'm going to speak this morning more about the color of what we're feeling and happy to talk more about it. Generally speaking, I feel very, very confident about the pipeline we have in global value in particular. As I've said, the potential there is absolutely enormous. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:10:09The number of contacts that we have globally are very strong, and I feel optimistic not only about a very large second seed investment at some point in 2025, but follow-on flows into that strategy. We are about to complete the building of an Australian trust along with potential distribution so that we can take in other assets aside from institutional assets in that strategy. We are working on a UCITS in Europe for that and other strategies at the firm. I am quite optimistic. OCIO pipeline has slowed, lots of activity in the pipeline, but nothing I would measure really strongly in the pipeline. I remain optimistic that those flows will pick back up. Currently, that strategy stands at about $1.8 billion at the firm. Our international value strategies have put up absolutely top-tier great numbers. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:11:20There's lots of good activity around that, and I feel quite strong about our ability to build those assets. There's quite a few areas of the firm that I feel strongly about in terms of our growth looking out over the next two or three years, which should really help. Generally, as you would take from my introductory remarks, quite positive tone about what we're seeing. The only negative I would point out is that, of course, we had a pullback in AUM due to volatile markets, Sandy, and that overwhelmed good news. It's going to happen at our size. Nothing we can do about it. As you know, that's just part of the business. It's going to come up and help us sometimes. It's going to hurt us. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:12:12Important to look at what's happening organically, and I feel very strongly that the organic picture looks very good. However, when you have market turmoil like this, as much as I like the opportunities for the company and what we can do, and we've always performed well in those environments, happy to talk more about it, it also means that asset allocators, not unlike investors generally in the high-net-worth space or elsewhere, kind of looking around, taking a pause, thinking carefully about what they're going to do. The effect of this volatility, uncertainty about global trade and the global macro environment, it certainly can hurt us short-term as it did in the first quarter. Obviously, markets have become more constructive since then, thankfully, although they were down, I guess, in April as well to some extent. It also affects the search environment. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:13:03We are going through a little bit of period here of hesitation that we've got to work through, but it doesn't change my medium to long-term optimistic tone. Sandy MehtaCEO and Founder at Evaluate Research00:13:15In the global area, your team is now fully built out, and how's the investment performance result? Has that still been quite satisfactory? Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:13:26Just about fully built out. We're still working on those consultant business relationships that I told you about. As the assets grow there, there may be some other things that we'll add, but we've added analysts, we've added business development support, we've added international trading, etc. Yeah, we're getting there. I'm sorry, the second part of your question, Sandy, was performance I got. Sandy MehtaCEO and Founder at Evaluate Research00:13:52Oh, yeah. Performance is good. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:13:54Yes. Performance is outstanding. Very, very good. Not only against the value benchmark they measure against, but against the core benchmark, which interestingly we've been beating. We are going into the market not just with a great win and potential big pipeline, but we are going into the market with very, very strong performance. That performance, by the way, was very good despite the volatile markets. It was not just relative outperformance. We had good absolute performance in that strategy. Quite remarkable. Sandy MehtaCEO and Founder at Evaluate Research00:14:34Okay. Great. It was good to see the buyback. Could you just update us at what price you bought back stock, and where are you now on the authorization looking forward on the buyback? Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:14:47Yeah. We're done with the buyback. We authorized $12 million. We finished it, I believe, what are we in? We finished it last month. We felt really good about the buyback over the past two months or so. We were able, you may have noticed, a really nice volume uptick in our stock. We were able to affect some block trades, which was part of that higher volume. We've been working closely to identify where we can buy stock back. We felt great about that execution. We felt good about being able to do it in volume rather than being subject to just the daily volume restrictions. We'll be looking at that and perhaps some other things going forward if we were to announce another buyback. With regards to buybacks in particular, there's a reason I mentioned it in my introductory remarks. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:15:50I think at a time when we see so much opportunity that we have to invest in the business and admittedly hit EBITDA and earnings the way we have, that it makes sense if we have the capital to accrete shareholders or return capital, depending on what their wishes may be, at the same time that we're doing that. We are in a really nice position with a super healthy balance sheet and capital structure where we can contemplate such a thing. I think it's a great investment on behalf of shareholders given the potential I see. We will be evaluating that once again since the $12 million buyback is complete. Sandy MehtaCEO and Founder at Evaluate Research00:16:41All right. Great. Thank you. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:16:43You're welcome, Sandy. Thanks. Operator00:16:46Our next question comes from Chris Sakai with Singular Research. Please go ahead. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:16:52Good morning, Chris. Chris SakaiEquity Research Analyst at Singular Research00:16:55Yes, good morning. Just wanted to ask about the global expansion. How are things in Europe and Singapore? Can you add some color as to the AUM there? Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:17:11Yeah. The AUM is a little difficult, and I'm not going to go about measuring that in our calls, Chris, because we have clients who may be domiciled in South Asia or in Europe, but they may have accounts here in the United States or other offshore places. Yet they themselves, we consider Southeast Asian or European clients. We've long had them. That includes across both the institutional and high-net-worth businesses. Given the global nature of families in particular, you'd be hard-pressed to say sometimes whether they're in New York, Singapore, or Europe. I'll give you more color instead of absolute AUM numbers because we've always had those clients. In particular, we see strong opportunity based on the meetings we're having and, in fact, new clients that we've received. I'll talk about the build-out. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:18:19With regards to Europe, on the high-net-worth side, first and foremost, we've always had very significant relationships there: Netherlands, Switzerland, Germany, U.K., and offshore places that you would consider "European." We also have new relationships, as you know, in Poland, which is an incredibly fast-growing economy. I think I've mentioned before, just as an example, now wealthier per capita than the U.K. and will soon, on a per capita basis, surpass Japan, meaning this year or next year, a real dynamo in Europe. We're excited to be kind of an early mover with some of those families. What we're changing is the fact that we would like to be able to proactively market in Europe. We can't do that. Right now, we can only take inbound calls and people who are expressing interest in Silvercrest reaching out to us. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:19:20We have done well with people just reaching out to us. What we have done and we will be spending capital on, Chris, is we have established a European entity. We are going through the process of working with the regulators so that we are licensed to proactively market and be a fully licensed participant in the European market. We will be pursuing a U.K. presence as well and have been laying the groundwork for that, frankly, for probably six years. We are very diligent and careful before we step in and commit meaningful amounts of capital. That process is proceeding, and we will have our European license so that we can much more proactively market. I would say within the next, to be conservative, eight to ten months, but I think it will be sooner than that. It could be as soon as six months, something like that. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:20:20In Southeast Asia, as you know, we're fully licensed in Singapore, the MAS. We now have people there. We will be adding people there given the opportunities that we see in the meetings that we've been having with prospective clients. We do have clients in Southeast Asia, including in Singapore. I just got back from a trip with potential partners and OCIO clients as well as to meet talent who can bring in AUM. We will keep you posted on that. We've taken a very long, steady approach. Again, this has been a multi-year effort that we've been very careful about committing capital to until we know that we can succeed, and we're kind of at that point where I feel we can do so. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:21:03On the institutional side, you well know that the global value strategy, in particular, our international value strategy as well, are seeing significant interest from that side of the planet, whether that's in, we'll just call it broader Asia or in Australia. That remains very, very promising. It's very important for us to have a presence in that time zone to help us execute that business. With regards to Europe, we've always had institutional business in Europe. We have people who distribute for us there. We have a good relationship, I've mentioned before, with Edmond de Rothschild. There are other partners we're working with who will be marketing on our behalf. I told you about the UCITS just a moment ago that we're building on behalf of the global value strategy and other strategies. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:21:57Those obviously are all European-based flows, and I expect a lot more to come of that given our consultant relationships. Chris SakaiEquity Research Analyst at Singular Research00:22:07Okay. Great. Thanks for that answer. Just on the share buyback, can you share any color on potentially a new buyback and the amount there and how much that would be? Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:22:21I think I've given comments that we're very seriously looking at it, Chris, and why we would want to execute it, especially as we make investments that, at least for the meantime, have a higher compensation ratio for the firm and therefore hit our earnings in EBITDA. We're very conscious of that. We feel great about what we're doing. We forecast what we were doing explicitly for a long time before we did it. I think we've strategically laid out our plan. I'd like to return capital to our shareholders or accrete them while we do this so that they can benefit at what I think is a good entry point as we see this growth occur, just as I've announced these new accounts that have come in the past two quarters. We will assess the amount and when that may occur. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:23:14I'm not ready to make announcements along those lines at this time. Chris SakaiEquity Research Analyst at Singular Research00:23:19Okay. Great. Thanks for the answers. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:23:22Thank you, Chris. Appreciate the questions. Operator00:23:26Again, if you have a question, please press star, then one. Our next question comes from Christopher Marinac with Janney Montgomery Scott. Please go ahead. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:23:37Hi, Christopher. Good morning. Christopher MarinacDirector of Research at Janney Montgomery Scott00:23:39Hey, good morning. Thanks for hosting us this morning. Rick and Scott, I want to drill down on expenses and kind of the timing of sort of getting additional revenue versus expenses. It's the old-fashioned operating leverage question. I know you can't run this quarter to quarter. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:23:54Yeah. It's super hard to give. Chris SakaiEquity Research Analyst at Singular Research00:23:55How do you think? Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:23:55It's super hard to give clarity to, to be honest. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Christopher MarinacDirector of Research at Janney Montgomery Scott00:24:00The big picture is still to kind of get that positive crank as you think about it year to year. Perhaps we should think about this year over year and less quarter to quarter. I'm just curious how you think about that in the big picture. It's less about next quarter and more about kind of how you look at running the business. I know it's a long-term focus and goal. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:24:17Yeah, it really is. I think the last call I talked about working through this through the end of 2026. Part of the reason is this. Let's tear apart the—and obviously, this is a much longer play than that. You're asking about the operating leverage. I get it. I think we're going to grow into it. Let's break it apart. First of all, we have the investments we've made in the global value equity team. We've built out a lot on that team, but there's a bit more to come. The pipeline there is huge, absolutely enormous. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:24:53I do think, as I've mentioned across that, the international value team, which is separate from the global value team, as you know, and our other growth and value equity capabilities are hurt right now a bit by the global macro environment and trade environment, just as the markets came down. The search environment was slowing a bit. I feel very strongly that the opportunity is significant. That team, on its own, is going to grow year over year, definitely through those costs and start giving us leverage. Of course, it's a nicely leverageable business, which will benefit the entire firm. I feel strongly about that. These flows can be so big that I hesitate to give you a forecast on what that can really mean for the firm. Timing is everything, of course. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:25:54There's a lot of variability when you're talking about large flows like that. The best I can say is that I'm optimistic. I would hesitate to say more, but very bright. We have the investments in Southeast Asia, which has been ongoing, and the new investments we're making in Europe. We're also, as you know, building out organic growth in Atlanta, Georgia. There are people we're hiring there and have been. There are capital expenditures with regards to those locations. They hang together with the global impression we're making with our strategies. We've always done things where the institutional business is applicable and related to the high-net-worth business. I'm not building a firm where you're doing something disparate over there, and you've got strategy B that doesn't hang together with attracting very significant large families. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:26:56Those, by the nature of the high-net-worth business, are slower growing. The advantage there, of course, Christopher, is that they are very, very sticky assets and a very different business once you get that crank going. We have a history of being able to organically grow that business, which is incredibly difficult. That is going to take a bit more time as we lean into it. In our experience, when you have the kind of environment we do, when you have the quality of the firm that we do, and the nature of what we can do on an institutional level for these families that help Silvercrest stand apart, we succeed. That requires a bit more patience. The ultimate leverage, obviously, is going to be on the institutional side, and the faster growth is going to be on that side. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:27:52Not surprisingly, adds more leverage to the business, can grow faster. The other investments we make are going to be slower and stickier. It's very hard to say how that plays out, but that's going to be a longer-term game for sure. I do expect to see increasing margins year over year, especially as markets even out at some point, as we get to some trade deals. That should add operating leverages. I would love to see the pendulum start swinging back towards our normalized EBITDA margins. It's certainly my expectation that year over year, we will make progress. We're not going to be back to normal, however, in the high 20s or low 30s unless there are really, really big flows and have supportive markets at the same time. Therefore, I'm still looking out, at least through the end of 2026, and we'll keep folks updated. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:28:55Look, I feel very good. We've seen almost $2 billion in net new client accounts over the past two quarters. We were only hurt by the declining markets in the first quarter. The closed accounts were very attenuated. With a bit more supportive markets and some more flows, that's some pretty significant progress already, especially if I were to pause investments. I feel good year over year. I feel great as we look through 2026. Chris SakaiEquity Research Analyst at Singular Research00:29:33Great. At the end of the day. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:29:34It required more color than firm stats. I can't predict the future fully. Christopher MarinacDirector of Research at Janney Montgomery Scott00:29:40Yeah. Understand. I guess at the end of the day, as long as I've covered you, we see the AUM come in, and then your ability to retain that has been very good. Obviously, markets move quarter to quarter, but that's the point. You're going to bring that AUM in and the revenue flows. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:29:55Exactly. I will also mention we might take a bit of a pause. I am not saying that I already know anything. We were only a month into this quarter, but we may take a pause in the second quarter. That is okay. The reason I say that is clearly the search environment is affected by the current global macroeconomic environment. Okay. Let us look through that. So what? This is a long-term business, number one. Number two, there is always the potential for some tax outflows during the second quarter. There are two tax payments that are due. That is always going to be a bit of a headwind, even with supportive markets. We see that every year. Last year was, again, a very, very good capital gains year for a lot of our clients. I do not know how that is going to shake out, but it is worth keeping in mind. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:30:50We need those supported markets as well. Christopher MarinacDirector of Research at Janney Montgomery Scott00:30:55Great. Last question for me. There has been a lot of macro conversation the last five, six weeks about international investors pulling capital from the U.S. and going back home. Do you see any of that? Is that an issue for Silvercrest at all, or can you work through that given some of the other global strategies that you are now employing? Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:31:14We can work through that. First of all, the vast majority of our assets are U.S.-based. So not a significant issue for us. Secondly, we do have a global strategy. We have an emerging market strategy. We have an international strategy. Those are, by definition, purchasing companies around the world. And from what I see, there's tons of capital that needs to go into those strategies. And whether it's local currency or U.S., I don't see that changing. The United States is the world's largest economy. When we buy things from the rest of the world, the rest of the world ends up with dollars. Those dollars have to go somewhere. And I don't see that significantly affecting us or changing the environment. I just got back from Asia. I didn't see any personally as a subjective color. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:32:18There may be talk, and at the margins, there may be some of those moves. Look, it's a big world. We're a small company. There's a lot of opportunity. We were meeting with people because they were interested. I don't think that's a really significant issue for us at this time. Christopher MarinacDirector of Research at Janney Montgomery Scott00:32:39Great, Rick. Thank you for the background. I appreciate all the information today. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:32:43You're welcome, Christopher. Thanks for the questions. Operator00:32:48This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Rick Hough for any closing remarks. Richard HoughChairman and CEO at Silvercrest Asset Management Group00:32:55Great. Thank you. I appreciate everyone joining us for this first quarter of 2025 call, the good questions. Also, greatly appreciate our shareholders who have been encouraging with regards to our long-term strategy and the investments we're making. I just want to make it clear to anyone, Scott and I are always available to take questions, talk about what we're up to. We're pretty excited over the next, call it, year. Certainly very excited for beyond that, given what we're building at the firm. Thanks again, and look forward to talking to everyone soon. Operator00:33:37The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesRichard HoughChairman and CEOScott GerardCFOAnalystsChristopher MarinacDirector of Research at Janney Montgomery ScottSandy MehtaCEO and Founder at Evaluate ResearchChris SakaiEquity Research Analyst at Singular ResearchPowered by