NASDAQ:REFI Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance Q1 2026 Earnings Report $11.30 -0.11 (-0.96%) Closing price 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$11.50 +0.20 (+1.75%) As of 06:36 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Massive. Learn more. ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.46Consensus EPS $0.48Beat/MissMissed by -$0.02One Year Ago EPSN/AChicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$13.12 millionExpected Revenue$13.69 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$568.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/AChicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2026Date5/7/2026TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateThursday, May 7, 2026Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsChicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance's Q2 2026 earnings is estimated for Thursday, August 6, 2026, based on past reporting schedules, with a conference call scheduled at 9:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance Q1 2026 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 7, 2026 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways Positive Sentiment: Management highlighted a major regulatory development — the DOJ's April rescheduling of certain medical cannabis to Schedule III and an administrative hearing June 29–July 15 — and says this could improve operator cash flows (via 280E relief) and boost valuations; the company also reports a $482 million pipeline (about $133 million real-estate backed). Positive Sentiment: Chicago Atlantic reported steady portfolio income (Q1 weighted average yield to maturity of 15.8%), distributable earnings per share of ~$0.47 and a maintained quarterly dividend of $0.47, with book value per share of $14.39 and roughly <$strong>$54 million of net liquidity available. Negative Sentiment: Credit reserves rose materially — CECL reserves increased by roughly $3.8 million to $8.7 million (about 2.1% of loans) driven by specific downgrades (notably loan #36) despite non-accruals falling to 4.8% after loan #9 returned to accrual. Positive Sentiment: The portfolio mix (35% fixed / 65% floating) and structural protections — nearly all prime‑based loans are at their floors and floating loans lack interest rate caps — means limited downside to further rate declines and a competitive funding profile versus peers. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallChicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance Q1 202600:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipantsPresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day. Welcome to the Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance Inc. fourth quarter 2026 earnings conference call. As a reminder, all participants will be in the listen only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on a touch tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star and then two. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Lisa Kampf. Please go ahead. Lisa KampfInvestor Relations at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:00:42Thank you. Good morning. Welcome to the Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance conference call to review the company's results. On the call today will be Peter Sack, Co-Chief Executive Officer, David Kite, President and Chief Operating Officer, and Phillip Silverman, Chief Financial Officer. Our results were released this morning in our earnings press release, which can be found on our investor relations section of our website, along with our supplemental filed with the SEC. A live audio webcast of this call is being made available today. For those who listen to the replay of this webcast, we remind you that the remarks made herein are as of today and will not be updated subsequent to this call. Lisa KampfInvestor Relations at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:01:25During the call, certain comments and statements we make may be deemed forward-looking statements within the meaning prescribed by securities laws, including statements related to the future performance of our portfolio, our pipeline of potential loans and other investments, future dividends, and financing activity. All forward-looking statements represent Chicago Atlantic's judgment as of the date of this conference call and are subject to risks and uncertainties that can cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. Investors are urged to carefully review various disclosures made by the company, including the risks and other information disclosed in the company's filings with the SEC. We also will discuss certain non-GAAP measures, including, but not limited to, distributable earnings. Definitions of these non-GAAP measures and reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures are included in our filings with the SEC. Lisa KampfInvestor Relations at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:02:23I'll now turn the call over to Peter Sack. Please go ahead. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:02:27Thank you, Lisa. Good morning, everyone. This quarter, Chicago Atlantic reported a quarter of consistent results against the backdrop of continuing concerns in the private credit market, the Fed pausing the interest rate easing cycle following three consecutive rate cuts in Q4 of last year, and volatility caused by the Middle East conflict. This quarter's results reflect the strength and resilience of our business model. We are a leading capital provider in the cannabis ecosystem. Our experience in this industry provides us with the expertise, relationships, and ability to redeploy capital more quickly than the typical mortgage REIT. Our rigorous underwriting and stringent risk standards, led by our cannabis-focused underwriting, real estate, and analytics team, ensures an acceptable risk-versus-reward. I continue to be optimistic about the current environment. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:03:16The pipeline of cannabis opportunities remains strong and currently stands at $482 million, of which approximately $133 million of this pipeline is backed by real estate collateral. Given the recent medical rescheduling news in late April, I'd be remiss in not highlighting the latest major federal initiative in policy setting for the cannabis industry. The Department of Justice announced on April 23rd it is rescheduling certain medical marijuana products to Schedule III from Schedule I. This is the most significant federal policy change in years and perhaps in the history of the industry. There are nuances to work out as we wait for a more definitive framework and how this policy will apply to existing individual state laws. We expect these policy changes to impact each operator differently based on their medical market exposure. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:04:02After many years of delays, this is a tremendous step in the right direction. How we expect to immediately benefit from this order is predominantly through the elimination of the extra tax burden on cannabis companies resulting from Section 280E and retrospective relief on legacy tax liabilities that should improve operator cash flows and strengthen balance sheets, driving higher valuation multiples and improving the credit profiles of our borrowers. The federal order requires and sets up an expedited process for state-licensed medical cannabis operators to register with the DEA and, in effect, legalizing state-licensed medical cannabis on a federal level. Additional benefits from this would be lowering barriers to U.S. exchanges, for which we have been an advocate. An administrative hearing is scheduled for June 29th to July 15th. This hearing provides a pathway to reschedule cannabis more broadly, possibly rescheduling adult use products. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:04:56We will continue to be measured in our outlook for a positive outcome and not jump ahead to any conclusions. We believe Chicago Atlantic is well-positioned to benefit from the initial order, and as I've stated before, the success of our strategy is not dependent on any of these changes. We have remained conservative and underwrite every investment assuming no regulatory-driven credit improvements. Leading up to the June twenty-ninth hearing, we've begun forecasting for a range of outcomes from the rulemaking process but currently remain in a wait-and-see mode. Overall, REFI delivered consistent, stable financial results for the first quarter of 2026 against an unstable macro environment. Our differentiated business model, lending to operators and property owners in the cannabis industry, enables us to operate in a niche market with limited competition, with favorable terms and delivering competitive yields. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:05:45This year is proving to be a transformative time for the cannabis industry following the federal government's rescheduling medical marijuana from Schedule I to Schedule III and the potential for broader policy shifts for cannabis later this year. We are encouraged by the validation of our business model and the potential impact of regulatory orders flowing through to REFI. I look forward to updating you on our progress throughout the rest of this exciting year. David will now speak to the portfolio in greater detail. David? David KitePresident and COO at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:06:12Thank you, Peter. As of March 31, our loan portfolio principal totaled approximately $414 million across 25 portfolio companies with a weighted average yield to maturity of 15.8%, compared with 16.3% for the fourth quarter of 2025. Gross originations during the quarter were approximately $54 million of principal fundings, of which $16.2 million and $37.8 million were funded to new borrowers and existing borrowers, respectively. These were offset by approximately $52 million of repayments, comprised of $3.3 million in scheduled amortization payments and $48.2 million from full and partial loan prepayments. As of March 31, 2026, approximately 10.7% of our portfolio is risk rated four or higher, compared with 4.8% as of December 31, 2025. David KitePresident and COO at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:07:10This risk rating shift, primarily attributable to Loan No. 36 being downgraded from three to a four, contributed to an increase in CECL reserves of approximately $3.8 million. As I mentioned on our last call, we made significant progress on Loan No. 9 last quarter, funding in advance for the borrower to allow for accretive acquisitions. As of December 31, 2025, the loan was brought current. As of March 31, we're pleased to announce that we've moved the loan back to accrual status after three consecutive months of timely payment and demonstration of sustained performance improvement, which we expect to lead to the ability to continue to meet debt service obligations. This is a prime example of how we utilize the operational and workout expertise amongst our team and the broader Chicago Atlantic platform, using creativity and deal management to drive successful turnaround efforts. David KitePresident and COO at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:08:05As of March 31, 2026, approximately 4.8% of our portfolio was on non-accrual status, a decrease from approximately 11.1% as of December 31, 2025, primarily relating to the restoration of Loan No. 9 To accrual. As of March 31, 2026, our portfolio consisted of 35.2% fixed-rate loans and 64.8% floating-rate loans. 71.9% and 28.1% of floating-rate loans are benchmarked to the prime rate and SOFR, respectively. With the current prime rate at 6.75, 100% of our prime rate loans are at their floors, and in total, approximately only 4% of our loan principal is exposed to further rate declines across the total portfolio. David KitePresident and COO at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:08:55Importantly, our floating-rate loans are not exposed to interest rate caps, which, combined with our rate floor protections, provides a structural advantage in portfolio construction that compares favorably to most other mortgage REITs. Total leverage equaled 38% of book equity at March 31, compared to 32% as of December 31. As of March 31, we had $67.1 million outstanding on our senior secured revolving credit facility and $49.4 million outstanding on our unsecured term loan. As of today, we have approximately $59 million available on the senior credit facility and total liquidity, net of estimated liabilities of approximately $54 million. I'll now turn it over to Phillip. Phillip SilvermanCFO at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:09:40Thanks, David. Our net interest income of $13.1 million for the first quarter represented a $1.2 million or 8% decrease from $14.2 million during the fourth quarter of 2025. The decrease was primarily attributed to the fourth quarter collection of past due on accrued interest on Loan No. 9, totaling $1.7 million, which was recognized last quarter. Total interest expense, including non-cash amortization of financing costs for the first quarter of 2026, was approximately $2 million, an increase from $1.8 million in the fourth quarter. The weighted average borrowings on our revolving loan increased to $48 million, compared to $33.6 million during the fourth quarter. Our CECL reserve on our loans held for investment as of March 31, 2026 was approximately $8.7 million. Phillip SilvermanCFO at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:10:28On a relative size basis, our reserve for expected credit losses represents 2.1% of our outstanding principal of our loans held for investment. The reserve increased by approximately $3.8 million from the fourth quarter, primarily due to increases in LTV attributed to specific loans, primarily Loan No. 4,Loan No. 34 and Loan No. 36. On a weighted average basis, our portfolio maintained strong real estate coverage of 1.2x. Distributable earnings per weighted average share on a basic and fully diluted basis were approximately $0.47 and $0.46 for the first quarter. In April, we distributed the fourth quarter dividend of $0.47 per common share declared by our board. Phillip SilvermanCFO at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:11:11Since inception, the company has distributed $8.94 per common share in dividends, which represents a yield on cost of approximately 11.8% when measured against our IPO price. Our book value per common share outstanding was $14.39 as of March 31, 2026, and there were approximately 21.5 million common shares outstanding on a fully diluted basis as of such date. During the subsequent period from April 1, 2026 through today, the company advanced new gross loan principal of approximately $15.8 million, comprised of $13.1 million advanced to one new borrower and $2.7 million to existing borrowers on delayed draw on existing credit facilities. Phillip SilvermanCFO at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:11:54Additionally, the company received a total of $14.3 million in loan repayments, comprised of $1.8 million of scheduled amortization and $12.5 million in early prepayments, which included the full repayment of Loans No .6 and No. 30. We expect to continue to maintain a dividend payout ratio based on our basic distributable earnings per share of 90%-100% for the 2026 tax year. If our taxable income requires additional distributions in excess of the regular quarterly dividend to meet our taxable income requirements, we expect to meet that requirement with a special dividend in the fourth quarter. Operator, we're now ready to take questions. Operator00:12:34Thank you. We will now begin with the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your questions has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Pablo Zuanic, from Zuanic & Associates. Please go ahead. Pablo ZuanicFounder and Managing Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:13:29Thank you, good morning, everyone. Thanks, Peter, for the commentary on the regulatory front and of course, the positive news that we've been receiving recently. Look, I just want to start with Loan No. 36. Obviously, Loan No. 4 and Loan No. 34 are Arizona loans, and we know that's a tough market for growers. You mentioned Loan No. 4 and Loan No. 34 are in accruals or are part of a reserve. In the case of Loan No. 36, that's an Illinois loan, right? It's a larger loan, $27 million. Whatever color you can provide more on that loan would be helpful. Arizona, I understand. Illinois, of course, we've seen 4Front and other companies have issues there. If you can just give more color on that particular Loan No. 36 would be helpful, please. Pablo ZuanicFounder and Managing Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:14:17Especially in the context that was issued in December 2024, which is not that long ago, I think. Bye-bye. Thanks. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:14:24Thank you. Illinois market is experiencing consolidation on the retail front and is experiencing increasing competition on cultivation. This one in particular has strong real estate coverage and is a vertically integrated operator. I think the reserving activity reflects our ordinary course evaluation of portfolio company performance and risk. The discussions with the borrower are very constructive and we expect that this company's performance can be improved and resolved in a constructive and collaborative manner. I'm hopeful that in the months ahead, we'll find this reserving activity conservative. Regardless, this is part of our ongoing process to show reserving activity that reflects a conservative appreciation of performance and the portfolio. Pablo ZuanicFounder and Managing Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:15:36Thank you. On the same topic, Peter, can you give an update on Loan No. 4 and Loan No. 34? Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:15:45These continue to evolve. I think it's too early to give specific updates, but they are constructive relationships. Pablo ZuanicFounder and Managing Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:15:58By the same token, in the case of Loan No. 9, back into accruals, like you said, you were actively involved with them, collaborative basis. You know, I'm just trying to understand the potential for loans in the portfolio that can be equitized or where you can succeed in bringing new buyers to those loans. I mean, how should we think about that as an opportunity going forward for the book? Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:16:23I think it's important to contrast Loan No. 9 with other reserving activities within the portfolio. Loan No. 9 was a foreclosure process, was a judicial foreclosure process. That takes a substantial longer amount of time for resolution than when challenging situations within portfolio companies can be resolved constructively and collaboratively. I'd say that the markets for assets that are undergoing challenges have improved significantly over the last year as expectations for rescheduling have moved from speculative to more definitive to, in the case of medical operators, executed. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:17:13This is both an environment that is constructive and positive for deploying capital and for finding solutions within the book, whether that's finding new equity investors, executing operational change or working towards an exit. This is a better environment for both deployment and reorganization and problem-solving than really we've seen in the last three years. Pablo ZuanicFounder and Managing Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:17:52Right. Thank you. On the topic of the unscheduled repayments, you know, thank you for the table you showed in the press release today about $48 million unscheduled repayment in the first quarter. I think Phil mentioned another $15 million so far in the second quarter. Is that out of the norm? I'm just trying to understand what's driving those early repayments or are they just normal par for the course? Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:18:22These are par for the course. You know, we labeled them unscheduled, but unscheduled doesn't necessarily mean a surprise. These were loans a few of them were nearing their maturity date. Pablo ZuanicFounder and Managing Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:18:42Right. Thank you. Look a couple of more. Apologies if there's someone else in the Q&A queue. Looking at the 10-Q Loan No. 45 in Canada, I don't know if that's the first time you've done a loan outside of the U.S. Can you comment on that? More in general, opportunities in international you know, Europe, and even more in Canada. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:19:03It's not the first. It might be the first time that REFI has executed a loan outside the U.S., not the first time that Chicago Atlantic as a platform has executed a loan outside the U.S. and in Canada. I think we're finding that in the Canadian market there has been stabilization of the market in some cases and rationalization of the market in terms of unprofitable operators leaving. That's given room and air for profitable, well-executing operators to rise to the top, be recognized to show strong results, and to provide opportunities for lenders to provide capital at very strong risk-adjusted returns. I think in the past we just haven't seen that, we haven't seen that opportunity set arise so meaningfully and so specifically and clearly. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:19:56I think we see this happen in a lot of markets that are oversaturated, that, they go through a period of rationalization and after that rationalization, pockets of opportunity emerge. Pablo ZuanicFounder and Managing Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:20:09Right. Thank you. One last one, and I know we've talked already before. Operator00:20:13Sorry to interrupt, Mr. Zuanic. May we request you to return to the queue for any follow-up questions, please? Thank you. You have the next question coming from the line of Chris Muller with Citizens Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Chris MullerAnalyst at Citizens Capital Markets00:20:33Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I wanted to ask some clarifications around Schedule Three that you may or may not know the answers to at this point. I guess first off, what % of your guys' portfolio is medical? I guess, how is that determined? Is that done at the license level? Which my understanding is some states have dual use licenses, or is it determined by the end user being either medical or rec? Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:21:01Most of our borrowers that are operating as adult use are also operating as medical operators. Each of them then parse their revenue by medical versus adult use, but those medical and adult use sales in many cases can be operating out of the same dispensary. We haven't published what is medical or versus adult use. I'm hopeful that within the year of 2026 that it's irrelevant, that the administrative hearings that are scheduled for June and July proceed, that adult use is rescheduled as well, the industry doesn't have to go through this exercise of analyzing what's medical and what's adult use. That it can proceed to operate each businesses seamlessly. We shall see. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:21:55I think if the, if adult use measures and progress around adult use rescheduling falters or slows down, I think you're going to see a lot of work among our borrowers to parse medical versus adult use operations to allocate costs, to allocate costs optimally between their medical and adult use operations to maximize tax efficiency. I think you're also going to see state regulators perhaps adjusting the definitions within their adult use program to shift more of their operations towards what they can call and designate a medical program. I hope those types of acrobatics are unnecessary, because the administration has executed on its pathway to reschedule the entire supply chain. Chris MullerAnalyst at Citizens Capital Markets00:22:46Got it. That's helpful. I think I saw California is doing something along those lines, which I agree with you. Hopefully, that's irrelevant and full Schedule 3 gets done in June. We'll see how that plays out. Then I guess on CECL, the CECL reserve increase in the quarter, and I may have missed this in your guys prepared remarks, but was that increase specific or general reserves? How are you guys thinking about the impact on CECL reserves following Schedule 3? Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:23:13That reserve activity was a mix of both specific and general. I should note that that reserve activity reflects the market and discount rates and valuations and loan to values as of 3/31, and they do not reflect the subsequent events of rescheduling market activity and discount rates thereafter. I think generally the rescheduling is a credit positive for all of our borrowers and even those that don't have significant medical, don't have significant medical revenues. Chris MullerAnalyst at Citizens Capital Markets00:23:53Should we expect to see some CECL releases throughout 2026 as those 280E issues work through the companies? Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:24:01It's certainly possible. It would be a reflection, not necessarily directly of rescheduling, but it would be a reflection of the inputs a reflection of market sentiment, loan to values, cash flow calculations flowing through to the inputs that drive our CECL reserve policies and behaviors. Chris MullerAnalyst at Citizens Capital Markets00:24:21Got it. Appreciate you guys taking the questions and great to hear we finally got some positive news in the sector. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:24:27Excellent. Operator00:24:30Thank you. Your next question comes from Aaron Grey with Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead. Aaron GreyAnalyst at Alliance Global Partners00:24:40Hi. Thank you for the question. You know first question, you know, obviously there's a hope that we get the full plan rescheduled, you know, late summer or fall following the hearings. You know, potentially in the near term or if full plan rescheduling takes a little bit more time, in this scenario, do you potentially get a little bit more aggressive in medical-only states where you know you have the removal of 280E? Does that change any of the potential near-term landscape opportunities? Thanks. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:25:12I think it does allow us to be, I think to reflect in our underwriting the different tax treatment of medical revenues versus adult use revenues. I think it drives us to, we will have to if adult use does not proceed on adult use sales, it will lead to, I think, different lenses for medical versus adult use, if only because it drives different cash flow dynamics of the operators. That's the fundamental basis of which I think all underwriters at this space will need to adjust. Again, I hope it's not needed, but if the fundamentals of cash flows need to be reflected in this, it'll be reflected in our underwriting and deployment as well. Aaron GreyAnalyst at Alliance Global Partners00:26:03Thanks. That's helpful color. A lot of people in the industry talk about potential impact of the hemp ban coming to fruition in November, having a broader impact on the legal cannabis market. You know, curious to your view on that and your borrowers, you know, potentially their being that ban come to fruition and helping out, you know, the fundamentals of your borrowers and your view on that. Thank you. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:26:26We've absolutely heard anecdotal feedback that the hemp ban has driven revenue increases, particularly in states that have a larger prevalence of smoke shops and these types of black market hemp, CBD and cannabis-adjacent products. I think it's been difficult to find a direct link in the, in the data, but certainly anecdotal and correlative links between the hemp ban and regulated cannabis sales. Aaron GreyAnalyst at Alliance Global Partners00:27:04Okay. Great. Thank you. Just last question for me. In terms of liquidity and pipeline, any color on timing to having some things in the pipeline come to fruition, you know, with the liquidity you still have available? Thanks. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:27:25Excuse me. I think it's our pipeline tends to refresh itself every three to six months. In that period of time we have the opportunity to explore whether these transactions that are in the pipeline are transactions that we seek to close or transactions that end up not being worthy of closing. It's, I think it's difficult to, it's difficult to forecast within that timeframe of what that deployment will be, for better or worse. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:27:56I'll point out that in this quarter we have released our, as at, investors' request, we have released a breakdown between real estate backed and non-real estate loans within our portfolio in an effort to give our investors a better view into what portion of our pipeline is more directly a fit for Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Financing. Aaron GreyAnalyst at Alliance Global Partners00:28:21Yeah, very helpful. Appreciate that disclosure and color in response to the questions. Thank you very much. I'll go ahead and jump back in the queue. Operator00:28:31Thank you. As there are no further questions from the participants, this concludes our question and answer session. The conference has now concluded. 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The company maintains a diversified portfolio of first mortgage and other senior real estate loans, typically structured with floating-rate coupons and incorporating robust credit underwriting. In addition to direct lending, REFI may invest in preferred equity and subordinated debt positions when consistent with its risk-return objectives. REFI is externally managed and advised by Chicago Atlantic Real Estate LLC, a real estate finance firm led by CEO Stephen S. Knight and a management team with deep experience in commercial mortgage markets. This alignment of interests seeks to blend specialized origination capabilities with prudent credit risk management, supported by a network of institutional relationships and regional operating partners. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good day. Welcome to the Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance Inc. fourth quarter 2026 earnings conference call. As a reminder, all participants will be in the listen only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on a touch tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star and then two. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Lisa Kampf. Please go ahead. Lisa KampfInvestor Relations at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:00:42Thank you. Good morning. Welcome to the Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance conference call to review the company's results. On the call today will be Peter Sack, Co-Chief Executive Officer, David Kite, President and Chief Operating Officer, and Phillip Silverman, Chief Financial Officer. Our results were released this morning in our earnings press release, which can be found on our investor relations section of our website, along with our supplemental filed with the SEC. A live audio webcast of this call is being made available today. For those who listen to the replay of this webcast, we remind you that the remarks made herein are as of today and will not be updated subsequent to this call. Lisa KampfInvestor Relations at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:01:25During the call, certain comments and statements we make may be deemed forward-looking statements within the meaning prescribed by securities laws, including statements related to the future performance of our portfolio, our pipeline of potential loans and other investments, future dividends, and financing activity. All forward-looking statements represent Chicago Atlantic's judgment as of the date of this conference call and are subject to risks and uncertainties that can cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. Investors are urged to carefully review various disclosures made by the company, including the risks and other information disclosed in the company's filings with the SEC. We also will discuss certain non-GAAP measures, including, but not limited to, distributable earnings. Definitions of these non-GAAP measures and reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures are included in our filings with the SEC. Lisa KampfInvestor Relations at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:02:23I'll now turn the call over to Peter Sack. Please go ahead. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:02:27Thank you, Lisa. Good morning, everyone. This quarter, Chicago Atlantic reported a quarter of consistent results against the backdrop of continuing concerns in the private credit market, the Fed pausing the interest rate easing cycle following three consecutive rate cuts in Q4 of last year, and volatility caused by the Middle East conflict. This quarter's results reflect the strength and resilience of our business model. We are a leading capital provider in the cannabis ecosystem. Our experience in this industry provides us with the expertise, relationships, and ability to redeploy capital more quickly than the typical mortgage REIT. Our rigorous underwriting and stringent risk standards, led by our cannabis-focused underwriting, real estate, and analytics team, ensures an acceptable risk-versus-reward. I continue to be optimistic about the current environment. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:03:16The pipeline of cannabis opportunities remains strong and currently stands at $482 million, of which approximately $133 million of this pipeline is backed by real estate collateral. Given the recent medical rescheduling news in late April, I'd be remiss in not highlighting the latest major federal initiative in policy setting for the cannabis industry. The Department of Justice announced on April 23rd it is rescheduling certain medical marijuana products to Schedule III from Schedule I. This is the most significant federal policy change in years and perhaps in the history of the industry. There are nuances to work out as we wait for a more definitive framework and how this policy will apply to existing individual state laws. We expect these policy changes to impact each operator differently based on their medical market exposure. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:04:02After many years of delays, this is a tremendous step in the right direction. How we expect to immediately benefit from this order is predominantly through the elimination of the extra tax burden on cannabis companies resulting from Section 280E and retrospective relief on legacy tax liabilities that should improve operator cash flows and strengthen balance sheets, driving higher valuation multiples and improving the credit profiles of our borrowers. The federal order requires and sets up an expedited process for state-licensed medical cannabis operators to register with the DEA and, in effect, legalizing state-licensed medical cannabis on a federal level. Additional benefits from this would be lowering barriers to U.S. exchanges, for which we have been an advocate. An administrative hearing is scheduled for June 29th to July 15th. This hearing provides a pathway to reschedule cannabis more broadly, possibly rescheduling adult use products. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:04:56We will continue to be measured in our outlook for a positive outcome and not jump ahead to any conclusions. We believe Chicago Atlantic is well-positioned to benefit from the initial order, and as I've stated before, the success of our strategy is not dependent on any of these changes. We have remained conservative and underwrite every investment assuming no regulatory-driven credit improvements. Leading up to the June twenty-ninth hearing, we've begun forecasting for a range of outcomes from the rulemaking process but currently remain in a wait-and-see mode. Overall, REFI delivered consistent, stable financial results for the first quarter of 2026 against an unstable macro environment. Our differentiated business model, lending to operators and property owners in the cannabis industry, enables us to operate in a niche market with limited competition, with favorable terms and delivering competitive yields. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:05:45This year is proving to be a transformative time for the cannabis industry following the federal government's rescheduling medical marijuana from Schedule I to Schedule III and the potential for broader policy shifts for cannabis later this year. We are encouraged by the validation of our business model and the potential impact of regulatory orders flowing through to REFI. I look forward to updating you on our progress throughout the rest of this exciting year. David will now speak to the portfolio in greater detail. David? David KitePresident and COO at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:06:12Thank you, Peter. As of March 31, our loan portfolio principal totaled approximately $414 million across 25 portfolio companies with a weighted average yield to maturity of 15.8%, compared with 16.3% for the fourth quarter of 2025. Gross originations during the quarter were approximately $54 million of principal fundings, of which $16.2 million and $37.8 million were funded to new borrowers and existing borrowers, respectively. These were offset by approximately $52 million of repayments, comprised of $3.3 million in scheduled amortization payments and $48.2 million from full and partial loan prepayments. As of March 31, 2026, approximately 10.7% of our portfolio is risk rated four or higher, compared with 4.8% as of December 31, 2025. David KitePresident and COO at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:07:10This risk rating shift, primarily attributable to Loan No. 36 being downgraded from three to a four, contributed to an increase in CECL reserves of approximately $3.8 million. As I mentioned on our last call, we made significant progress on Loan No. 9 last quarter, funding in advance for the borrower to allow for accretive acquisitions. As of December 31, 2025, the loan was brought current. As of March 31, we're pleased to announce that we've moved the loan back to accrual status after three consecutive months of timely payment and demonstration of sustained performance improvement, which we expect to lead to the ability to continue to meet debt service obligations. This is a prime example of how we utilize the operational and workout expertise amongst our team and the broader Chicago Atlantic platform, using creativity and deal management to drive successful turnaround efforts. David KitePresident and COO at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:08:05As of March 31, 2026, approximately 4.8% of our portfolio was on non-accrual status, a decrease from approximately 11.1% as of December 31, 2025, primarily relating to the restoration of Loan No. 9 To accrual. As of March 31, 2026, our portfolio consisted of 35.2% fixed-rate loans and 64.8% floating-rate loans. 71.9% and 28.1% of floating-rate loans are benchmarked to the prime rate and SOFR, respectively. With the current prime rate at 6.75, 100% of our prime rate loans are at their floors, and in total, approximately only 4% of our loan principal is exposed to further rate declines across the total portfolio. David KitePresident and COO at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:08:55Importantly, our floating-rate loans are not exposed to interest rate caps, which, combined with our rate floor protections, provides a structural advantage in portfolio construction that compares favorably to most other mortgage REITs. Total leverage equaled 38% of book equity at March 31, compared to 32% as of December 31. As of March 31, we had $67.1 million outstanding on our senior secured revolving credit facility and $49.4 million outstanding on our unsecured term loan. As of today, we have approximately $59 million available on the senior credit facility and total liquidity, net of estimated liabilities of approximately $54 million. I'll now turn it over to Phillip. Phillip SilvermanCFO at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:09:40Thanks, David. Our net interest income of $13.1 million for the first quarter represented a $1.2 million or 8% decrease from $14.2 million during the fourth quarter of 2025. The decrease was primarily attributed to the fourth quarter collection of past due on accrued interest on Loan No. 9, totaling $1.7 million, which was recognized last quarter. Total interest expense, including non-cash amortization of financing costs for the first quarter of 2026, was approximately $2 million, an increase from $1.8 million in the fourth quarter. The weighted average borrowings on our revolving loan increased to $48 million, compared to $33.6 million during the fourth quarter. Our CECL reserve on our loans held for investment as of March 31, 2026 was approximately $8.7 million. Phillip SilvermanCFO at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:10:28On a relative size basis, our reserve for expected credit losses represents 2.1% of our outstanding principal of our loans held for investment. The reserve increased by approximately $3.8 million from the fourth quarter, primarily due to increases in LTV attributed to specific loans, primarily Loan No. 4,Loan No. 34 and Loan No. 36. On a weighted average basis, our portfolio maintained strong real estate coverage of 1.2x. Distributable earnings per weighted average share on a basic and fully diluted basis were approximately $0.47 and $0.46 for the first quarter. In April, we distributed the fourth quarter dividend of $0.47 per common share declared by our board. Phillip SilvermanCFO at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:11:11Since inception, the company has distributed $8.94 per common share in dividends, which represents a yield on cost of approximately 11.8% when measured against our IPO price. Our book value per common share outstanding was $14.39 as of March 31, 2026, and there were approximately 21.5 million common shares outstanding on a fully diluted basis as of such date. During the subsequent period from April 1, 2026 through today, the company advanced new gross loan principal of approximately $15.8 million, comprised of $13.1 million advanced to one new borrower and $2.7 million to existing borrowers on delayed draw on existing credit facilities. Phillip SilvermanCFO at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:11:54Additionally, the company received a total of $14.3 million in loan repayments, comprised of $1.8 million of scheduled amortization and $12.5 million in early prepayments, which included the full repayment of Loans No .6 and No. 30. We expect to continue to maintain a dividend payout ratio based on our basic distributable earnings per share of 90%-100% for the 2026 tax year. If our taxable income requires additional distributions in excess of the regular quarterly dividend to meet our taxable income requirements, we expect to meet that requirement with a special dividend in the fourth quarter. Operator, we're now ready to take questions. Operator00:12:34Thank you. We will now begin with the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your questions has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Pablo Zuanic, from Zuanic & Associates. Please go ahead. Pablo ZuanicFounder and Managing Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:13:29Thank you, good morning, everyone. Thanks, Peter, for the commentary on the regulatory front and of course, the positive news that we've been receiving recently. Look, I just want to start with Loan No. 36. Obviously, Loan No. 4 and Loan No. 34 are Arizona loans, and we know that's a tough market for growers. You mentioned Loan No. 4 and Loan No. 34 are in accruals or are part of a reserve. In the case of Loan No. 36, that's an Illinois loan, right? It's a larger loan, $27 million. Whatever color you can provide more on that loan would be helpful. Arizona, I understand. Illinois, of course, we've seen 4Front and other companies have issues there. If you can just give more color on that particular Loan No. 36 would be helpful, please. Pablo ZuanicFounder and Managing Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:14:17Especially in the context that was issued in December 2024, which is not that long ago, I think. Bye-bye. Thanks. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:14:24Thank you. Illinois market is experiencing consolidation on the retail front and is experiencing increasing competition on cultivation. This one in particular has strong real estate coverage and is a vertically integrated operator. I think the reserving activity reflects our ordinary course evaluation of portfolio company performance and risk. The discussions with the borrower are very constructive and we expect that this company's performance can be improved and resolved in a constructive and collaborative manner. I'm hopeful that in the months ahead, we'll find this reserving activity conservative. Regardless, this is part of our ongoing process to show reserving activity that reflects a conservative appreciation of performance and the portfolio. Pablo ZuanicFounder and Managing Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:15:36Thank you. On the same topic, Peter, can you give an update on Loan No. 4 and Loan No. 34? Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:15:45These continue to evolve. I think it's too early to give specific updates, but they are constructive relationships. Pablo ZuanicFounder and Managing Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:15:58By the same token, in the case of Loan No. 9, back into accruals, like you said, you were actively involved with them, collaborative basis. You know, I'm just trying to understand the potential for loans in the portfolio that can be equitized or where you can succeed in bringing new buyers to those loans. I mean, how should we think about that as an opportunity going forward for the book? Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:16:23I think it's important to contrast Loan No. 9 with other reserving activities within the portfolio. Loan No. 9 was a foreclosure process, was a judicial foreclosure process. That takes a substantial longer amount of time for resolution than when challenging situations within portfolio companies can be resolved constructively and collaboratively. I'd say that the markets for assets that are undergoing challenges have improved significantly over the last year as expectations for rescheduling have moved from speculative to more definitive to, in the case of medical operators, executed. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:17:13This is both an environment that is constructive and positive for deploying capital and for finding solutions within the book, whether that's finding new equity investors, executing operational change or working towards an exit. This is a better environment for both deployment and reorganization and problem-solving than really we've seen in the last three years. Pablo ZuanicFounder and Managing Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:17:52Right. Thank you. On the topic of the unscheduled repayments, you know, thank you for the table you showed in the press release today about $48 million unscheduled repayment in the first quarter. I think Phil mentioned another $15 million so far in the second quarter. Is that out of the norm? I'm just trying to understand what's driving those early repayments or are they just normal par for the course? Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:18:22These are par for the course. You know, we labeled them unscheduled, but unscheduled doesn't necessarily mean a surprise. These were loans a few of them were nearing their maturity date. Pablo ZuanicFounder and Managing Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:18:42Right. Thank you. Look a couple of more. Apologies if there's someone else in the Q&A queue. Looking at the 10-Q Loan No. 45 in Canada, I don't know if that's the first time you've done a loan outside of the U.S. Can you comment on that? More in general, opportunities in international you know, Europe, and even more in Canada. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:19:03It's not the first. It might be the first time that REFI has executed a loan outside the U.S., not the first time that Chicago Atlantic as a platform has executed a loan outside the U.S. and in Canada. I think we're finding that in the Canadian market there has been stabilization of the market in some cases and rationalization of the market in terms of unprofitable operators leaving. That's given room and air for profitable, well-executing operators to rise to the top, be recognized to show strong results, and to provide opportunities for lenders to provide capital at very strong risk-adjusted returns. I think in the past we just haven't seen that, we haven't seen that opportunity set arise so meaningfully and so specifically and clearly. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:19:56I think we see this happen in a lot of markets that are oversaturated, that, they go through a period of rationalization and after that rationalization, pockets of opportunity emerge. Pablo ZuanicFounder and Managing Partner at Zuanic & Associates00:20:09Right. Thank you. One last one, and I know we've talked already before. Operator00:20:13Sorry to interrupt, Mr. Zuanic. May we request you to return to the queue for any follow-up questions, please? Thank you. You have the next question coming from the line of Chris Muller with Citizens Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Chris MullerAnalyst at Citizens Capital Markets00:20:33Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I wanted to ask some clarifications around Schedule Three that you may or may not know the answers to at this point. I guess first off, what % of your guys' portfolio is medical? I guess, how is that determined? Is that done at the license level? Which my understanding is some states have dual use licenses, or is it determined by the end user being either medical or rec? Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:21:01Most of our borrowers that are operating as adult use are also operating as medical operators. Each of them then parse their revenue by medical versus adult use, but those medical and adult use sales in many cases can be operating out of the same dispensary. We haven't published what is medical or versus adult use. I'm hopeful that within the year of 2026 that it's irrelevant, that the administrative hearings that are scheduled for June and July proceed, that adult use is rescheduled as well, the industry doesn't have to go through this exercise of analyzing what's medical and what's adult use. That it can proceed to operate each businesses seamlessly. We shall see. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:21:55I think if the, if adult use measures and progress around adult use rescheduling falters or slows down, I think you're going to see a lot of work among our borrowers to parse medical versus adult use operations to allocate costs, to allocate costs optimally between their medical and adult use operations to maximize tax efficiency. I think you're also going to see state regulators perhaps adjusting the definitions within their adult use program to shift more of their operations towards what they can call and designate a medical program. I hope those types of acrobatics are unnecessary, because the administration has executed on its pathway to reschedule the entire supply chain. Chris MullerAnalyst at Citizens Capital Markets00:22:46Got it. That's helpful. I think I saw California is doing something along those lines, which I agree with you. Hopefully, that's irrelevant and full Schedule 3 gets done in June. We'll see how that plays out. Then I guess on CECL, the CECL reserve increase in the quarter, and I may have missed this in your guys prepared remarks, but was that increase specific or general reserves? How are you guys thinking about the impact on CECL reserves following Schedule 3? Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:23:13That reserve activity was a mix of both specific and general. I should note that that reserve activity reflects the market and discount rates and valuations and loan to values as of 3/31, and they do not reflect the subsequent events of rescheduling market activity and discount rates thereafter. I think generally the rescheduling is a credit positive for all of our borrowers and even those that don't have significant medical, don't have significant medical revenues. Chris MullerAnalyst at Citizens Capital Markets00:23:53Should we expect to see some CECL releases throughout 2026 as those 280E issues work through the companies? Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:24:01It's certainly possible. It would be a reflection, not necessarily directly of rescheduling, but it would be a reflection of the inputs a reflection of market sentiment, loan to values, cash flow calculations flowing through to the inputs that drive our CECL reserve policies and behaviors. Chris MullerAnalyst at Citizens Capital Markets00:24:21Got it. Appreciate you guys taking the questions and great to hear we finally got some positive news in the sector. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:24:27Excellent. Operator00:24:30Thank you. Your next question comes from Aaron Grey with Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead. Aaron GreyAnalyst at Alliance Global Partners00:24:40Hi. Thank you for the question. You know first question, you know, obviously there's a hope that we get the full plan rescheduled, you know, late summer or fall following the hearings. You know, potentially in the near term or if full plan rescheduling takes a little bit more time, in this scenario, do you potentially get a little bit more aggressive in medical-only states where you know you have the removal of 280E? Does that change any of the potential near-term landscape opportunities? Thanks. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:25:12I think it does allow us to be, I think to reflect in our underwriting the different tax treatment of medical revenues versus adult use revenues. I think it drives us to, we will have to if adult use does not proceed on adult use sales, it will lead to, I think, different lenses for medical versus adult use, if only because it drives different cash flow dynamics of the operators. That's the fundamental basis of which I think all underwriters at this space will need to adjust. Again, I hope it's not needed, but if the fundamentals of cash flows need to be reflected in this, it'll be reflected in our underwriting and deployment as well. Aaron GreyAnalyst at Alliance Global Partners00:26:03Thanks. That's helpful color. A lot of people in the industry talk about potential impact of the hemp ban coming to fruition in November, having a broader impact on the legal cannabis market. You know, curious to your view on that and your borrowers, you know, potentially their being that ban come to fruition and helping out, you know, the fundamentals of your borrowers and your view on that. Thank you. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:26:26We've absolutely heard anecdotal feedback that the hemp ban has driven revenue increases, particularly in states that have a larger prevalence of smoke shops and these types of black market hemp, CBD and cannabis-adjacent products. I think it's been difficult to find a direct link in the, in the data, but certainly anecdotal and correlative links between the hemp ban and regulated cannabis sales. Aaron GreyAnalyst at Alliance Global Partners00:27:04Okay. Great. Thank you. Just last question for me. In terms of liquidity and pipeline, any color on timing to having some things in the pipeline come to fruition, you know, with the liquidity you still have available? Thanks. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:27:25Excuse me. I think it's our pipeline tends to refresh itself every three to six months. In that period of time we have the opportunity to explore whether these transactions that are in the pipeline are transactions that we seek to close or transactions that end up not being worthy of closing. It's, I think it's difficult to, it's difficult to forecast within that timeframe of what that deployment will be, for better or worse. Peter SackCo-CEO and Director at Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance00:27:56I'll point out that in this quarter we have released our, as at, investors' request, we have released a breakdown between real estate backed and non-real estate loans within our portfolio in an effort to give our investors a better view into what portion of our pipeline is more directly a fit for Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Financing. Aaron GreyAnalyst at Alliance Global Partners00:28:21Yeah, very helpful. Appreciate that disclosure and color in response to the questions. Thank you very much. I'll go ahead and jump back in the queue. Operator00:28:31Thank you. As there are no further questions from the participants, this concludes our question and answer session. The conference has now concluded. We thank you for attending today's presentation, and you may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesDavid KitePresident and COOLisa KampfInvestor RelationsPeter SackCo-CEO and DirectorPhillip SilvermanCFOAnalystsAaron GreyAnalyst at Alliance Global PartnersChris MullerAnalyst at Citizens Capital MarketsPablo ZuanicFounder and Managing Partner at Zuanic & AssociatesPowered by