Boot Barn Q1 2027 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

  • Positive Sentiment: First-quarter results exceeded expectations, with sales up 18% to $594 million, same-store sales up 4.7%, and diluted EPS up 32% to $2.29. Results included a $0.38-per-share benefit from tariff refunds and better-than-expected product margins and expense control.
  • Positive Sentiment: Boot Barn raised its fiscal 2027 outlook, targeting up to $2.6 billion in sales, 4% same-store sales growth, and diluted EPS of $9.23, up 26%. The company now expects approximately 60 basis points of full-year merchandise-margin expansion excluding tariff refunds.
  • Negative Sentiment: Current-quarter momentum moderated, with consolidated same-store sales approximately flat through the first four weeks of the second quarter and July below expectations. Management attributed the weakness primarily to fewer Western music and stadium events, World Cup-related viewing distractions, and difficult comparisons.
  • Positive Sentiment: New-store performance remains strong, with 27 locations opened in the quarter and 70 planned for the fiscal year. New stores are projected to generate approximately $3.2 million in average annual revenue with payback in less than two years, supporting the long-term goal of 1,200 U.S. stores.
  • Positive Sentiment: The work business continued to accelerate, delivering high-single-digit comparable growth in both work boots and work apparel. Strong third-party work-boot sales may reduce exclusive-brand penetration to flat or slightly down year over year, but management views the mix shift as beneficial for sales and customer acquisition.
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Operator

Good day everyone, welcome to the Boot Barn Holdings, Inc First Quarter 2027 Earnings conference call. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. Now, I would like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Mark Dedovesh, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Finance. Please go ahead, sir.

Mark Dedovesh
Mark Dedovesh
SVP of Investor Relations and Finance at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss Boot Barn's first quarter fiscal 2027 earnings results. With me on today's call are John Hazen, Chief Executive Officer, and Jim Watkins, Chief Financial Officer. A copy of today's press release, along with a supplemental financial presentation, is available on the investor relations section of bootbarn.com. Shortly after we end this call, a recording of the call will be available as a replay for 30 days on the investor relations section of the company's website. I would like to remind you that certain statements we will make during this call are forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements reflect Boot Barn's judgments and analysis only as of today, actual results may differ materially from current expectations based on a number of factors affecting Boot Barn's business.

Mark Dedovesh
Mark Dedovesh
SVP of Investor Relations and Finance at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Accordingly, you should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. For a more thorough discussion of the risks and uncertainties associated with the forward-looking statements to be made during this conference call and webcast, we refer you to the disclaimer regarding forward-looking statements that is included in our first quarter fiscal 2027 earnings release, as well as our filings with the SEC referenced in that disclaimer. We do not undertake any obligation to update or alter any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. I will now turn the call over to John Hazen, Boot Barn's Chief Executive Officer. John?

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Thank you, Mark, good afternoon. Thank you everyone for joining us. On this call, I will review our first quarter fiscal 2027 results, provide an update on current business, discuss the progress we have made across each of our four strategic initiatives. Following my remarks, Jim Watkins will review our financial performance in more detail, then we will open up the call for questions. I am encouraged by our start to fiscal 2027. First quarter results exceeded our expectations, reflected broad-based strength across the business. Revenue increased 18%, driven by the opening of 27 new stores during the quarter, consolidated same-store sales growth of 4.7%. Merchandise margin exceeded our guidance, driven by stronger than expected product margin, the recognition of tariff refunds during the quarter.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Disciplined expense management also contributed to first quarter results, with our SG&A rate coming in better than guidance, even as we invested in marketing initiatives, including our sponsorship at the Stagecoach Music Festival and 28 grand opening events. As a result of the factors just mentioned, first quarter earnings per diluted share increased 32% over the prior year to $2.29, including a $0.38 benefit from tariff refunds. Our first quarter results reflect the outstanding execution by our team and the strength of our business. I am confident we are well-positioned to deliver continued growth throughout the remainder of the year. Now turning to current business. Through the first four weeks of the fiscal second quarter, consolidated same-store sales are approximately flat. While this represents a moderation from our first quarter performance, it was largely anticipated as we lapped the strongest sales month of the second quarter from last year.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

July sales did, however, come in below our expectations due to a couple of factors that were not contemplated in our original outlook. We believe fewer Western Lifestyle stadium events and concerts, together with the temporary impact of World Cup matches on customer traffic during televised games, weighed on our performance during the month. Despite these factors, we remain confident in our outlook for the balance of the year. I will now spend some time discussing each of our four strategic initiatives. Let's begin with new store growth. We opened 27 stores during the first quarter, ending the period with 566 locations across 49 states. New store openings continue to exceed expectations across the country and are projected to generate $3.2 million in average annual revenue with an investment payback of less than two years.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

We remain on track to open 70 stores this fiscal year, supported by a new store pipeline. As we continue expanding across the country, we believe we are well-positioned to grow the Boot Barn brand for many years to come as we progress towards our long-term opportunity of 1,200 stores across the United States. Moving to our second initiative, same-store sales. First quarter consolidated same-store sales increased 4.7%, with brick-and-mortar same-store sales increasing 3.8%. Store comp growth was driven by a 3% increase in average unit retail and approximately flat transactions. From a merchandising perspective, we delivered broad-based growth across most major merchandise categories. Men's Western boots increased mid-single digits and ladies' Western boots decreased mid-single digits as they cycled mid-teen comps in the prior year. Men's and ladies' apparel increased high single digits, led by double-digit growth in denim, which also cycled exceptional growth last year.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Our Work boots business delivered high single-digit comp growth during the quarter, which marks the fifth consecutive quarter of growth in this category and the strongest growth over the past few years. I am pleased to see the continued acceleration in the Work business as the team made a concerted effort to reinvigorate the category last year. These efforts including enhancements to our in-store merchandising and increased marketing focus and investments in our key third-party brands to ensure we offer the right assortment for our Work customers. Moving to our third initiative, omnichannel. In the first quarter, e-commerce comp sales increased 13.4%, driven by double-digit growth on bootbarn.com.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

In addition to driving online sales growth, our omnichannel capabilities remain a meaningful competitive advantage and reflect our team's commitment to operate as a stores first organization. Today, a large portion of our e-commerce orders are fulfilled from our stores, enhancing merchandise margins while providing customers with access to a broader assortment of inventory. We continue to see strong adoption of our buy online pickup in-store and ship to store offerings, which drives store traffic, reduce fulfillment costs, and enhance customer engagement by delivering a more seamless shopping experience across our digital and physical channels. Now to our fourth strategic initiative, merchandise margin expansion and exclusive brands. I am pleased with the team's continued execution of our merchandise margin strategy. Excluding tariff refunds, first quarter merchandise margin exceeded our expectations, driven by strong product margins.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

While exclusive brands remain an important contributor to merchandise margin expansion, the exceptional performance of our Work boots business, driven by strong demand for third-party brands, resulted in lower exclusive brand penetration during the first quarter than anticipated. We expect to strengthen our third-party Work boots business to continue, and as a result, we now expect full-year exclusive brand penetration to be approximately flat to slightly down compared to the prior year. We view this as a positive outcome, as the continued strength of our Work boots business reflects healthy customer demand, drives incremental sales, attracts new customers to the Boot Barn brand, and further strengthens our position as the leading destination for work boots. Importantly, despite the modest change in our exclusive brand penetration, we now expect full-year merchandise margin to expand by approximately 60 basis points, excluding tariff refunds.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Our updated merchandise margin guidance is supported by multiple margin expansion drivers, including buying economies of scale, improved full price selling, supply chain efficiencies, and sourcing initiatives. I would like to now turn the call over to Jim.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Thank you, John. I want to begin by explaining the tariff refund impact on our first quarter results and full-year guidance. Our first quarter earnings per diluted share benefited by $0.38 due to tariff refunds. This is comprised of a $14.7 million benefit to merchandise margin worth 250 basis points. We also received a half a million dollars of tariff-related interest income. Looking forward, we expect tariff refunds to benefit second quarter merchandise margin by $2.4 million, or 40 basis points, resulting in an estimated $0.06 benefit to earnings per diluted share. For the third quarter, we expect tariff refunds to benefit merchandise margin by $0.7 million or 10 basis points, resulting in an estimated $0.02 benefit to earnings per diluted share. For the full-year, we expect tariff refunds to benefit merchandise margin by $17.8 million or 70 basis points.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

We also expect a half a million dollar benefit to interest income. These factors result in an estimated $0.46 benefit to earnings per diluted share. Turning to first quarter results. Net sales increased 18% to $594 million. Consolidated same-store sales grew 4.7%, driven by a 3.8% increase in retail store same-store sales and a 13.4% increase in e-commerce same-store sales. Merchandise margin increased 220 basis points during the quarter. The increase was driven by 250 basis points of tariff refunds and 60 basis points of product margin expansion, partially offset by a 90 basis point headwind from lapping low freight expense in the prior year period. Buying occupancy and distribution center costs deleveraged by 90 basis points, primarily due to occupancy costs associated with new store growth. As a result, gross profit rate increased 130 basis points compared to the prior year.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

SG&A expense was $149 million, or 25.2% of sales, an increase of 10 basis points from the prior year period and 30 basis points better than our guidance. Income from operations was $91 million or 15.3% of sales. Earnings per diluted share increased 32% to $2.29 compared to $1.74 in the prior year period. On a consolidated basis, inventory increased 16% year over year to $900 million and increased 1% on a same-store basis. The increase in total inventory reflects the growth needed to support new stores, exclusive brands, and inventory purchased at a volume discount. During the quarter, we repurchased more than 158,000 shares of common stock for an aggregate cost of $25 million under our $200 million share repurchase authorization. This brings cumulative repurchases, which began in fiscal 2026, to $75 million for approximately 445,000 shares.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

We ended the quarter with $139 million in cash and zero drawn on our line of credit. We are pleased to announce that yesterday we completed an amendment to our revolving credit facility. This amendment doubles our capacity on the line of credit to $500 million and extends the maturity date to 2031. Turning to our raised outlook for fiscal 2027. The supplemental financial presentation we released today outlines both the low and high end of our guidance ranges for the full year and the second quarter. In my following remarks, I will focus on the high end of those ranges. Our updated guidance includes the expected benefit of tariff refunds. For the full year at the high end of our guidance, we expect total sales of $2.6 billion, representing 16% growth over fiscal 2026.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

We continue to expect same-store sales to increase 4%, including a 3% increase in retail store comps and 13% growth in e-commerce comps. Merchandise margin rate is now expected to be approximately 52.2% of sales, representing a 130 basis point increase year over year, including 70 basis points from tariff refunds, 50 basis points of product margin expansion, and 10 basis points of freight improvement. We now expect gross profit rate to increase by 60 basis points year over year to approximately 38.7% of sales. We expect to achieve 40 basis points of SG&A leverage. We now expect income from operations of $374 million or 14.3% of sales, an increase of 100 basis points over last year. Net income is projected to be $281 million, with growth in earnings per diluted share of 26% to $9.23.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

We continue to expect net capital expenditures to total $130 million. We anticipate an effective tax rate of 25.7% for the remainder of the fiscal year. Turning to our second quarter guidance. We expect total sales at the high end of our guidance range to be $582 million. A consolidated same-store sales increase of 2%. We expect merchandise margin of approximately 51.8% of sales, representing a 140 basis point increase year-over-year. This guidance reflects a 90 basis point improvement in freight expense, a 40 basis point benefit from tariff refunds, 10 basis points of product margin expansion on top of 130 basis points of product margin expansion in the prior year period. We expect a gross profit of approximately 36.6% of sales.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

SG&A for the second quarter is expected to be approximately 25.1% of sales, representing 20 basis points of leverage compared to the prior year period. We expect income from operations of $67 million or 11.5% of sales. Earnings per diluted share of $1.65 compared to $1.37 last year. I would like to turn the call back to John for some closing remarks.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Thank you, Jim. We look ahead, I remain very optimistic about the opportunities in front of us. We have built a strong foundation, continue to execute on our strategies with discipline. We believe we are well-positioned to deliver another year of profitable growth. None of this would be possible without the dedication and passion of our team members across the country. Every day, they bring our values to life through their commitment to our customers and to one another. I want to sincerely thank them for everything that they do. I would like to open the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw, please press star then two. We ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up to ensure we have ample time to answer all the questioners in the queue. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question comes from Matthew Boss of JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Matthew Boss
Matthew Boss
Analyst at JPMorgan

Great. Thanks. John, comps in June exited the quarter up 5.4%. That was your best month of the first quarter. Could you help bridge the delta between June and July comps, maybe specifically the impact you think from some of the transitory impact on traffic? If you look at e-commerce, it's up double digits in July, or just any way to parse out the underlying trend in July, maybe outside of days that you believe were impacted from some of the transitory events.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Yeah, sure. Thanks, Matt. If we look at the major merchandise categories, particularly in western in July, we saw that deceleration across all major western categories. It was more pronounced in women's than men's boots to be sure. There was a traffic issue across all geographies in July. The good news is, from my perspective, is AUR continued to remain healthy. Our consumer seemed to be healthy, and it was a traffic issue around the things we described, a lack of stadium country music tours and the World Cup as a distraction in the month. What's important to note, it was across all geographies again, so there wasn't something specific around weather in a particular geo or something else going on, oil, et cetera. The Work business was incredibly healthy.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Both the Work apparel business and the Work boot business were in the high single digits, which showed the resiliency of our needs-based customer and a bit of a slowdown in traffic in what is one of our smallest months of the fiscal year.

Matthew Boss
Matthew Boss
Analyst at JPMorgan

Great. Jim, as a follow-up, the drivers of outperformance within your first quarter product margin, it was 60 basis points expansion. I think the plan was 10 basis points of expansion. Just if you could break down full price selling, private label, the drivers of the outperformance in first quarter product margin, how best to think about puts and takes for the second quarter and back half of the year.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Absolutely. You characterized it well, Matt. The product margin expansion was a beat to what we had guided for the quarter. It really comes down to what we've been talking about over the last several quarters. With better buying economies of scale and the product that we're bringing in at discounts, the product that we're selling at full price, the job that the merchandise team has done in getting the right product in the store has really benefited the product margin, particularly as we got into the first quarter. As we look to the merchandise margin guide in the second quarter, we do have a breakdown of some of the components of that on slide 14 in our presentation.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

We're expecting freight benefit of 90 basis points. That was up against some pretty low freight last year, it's really more of a comparison against the prior year than it was it being extremely strong this year. The tariff benefit of 40 basis points is what we're guiding. Then product margin benefit of 10 basis points in the second quarter. That's up against really strong product margin benefit last year of 130 basis points. I think I maybe mischaracterized the freight improvement. Sorry. The freight improvement is 90 basis points, is what we're expecting in the second quarter versus very high freight expense in the last year. Sorry for the confusion there.

Matthew Boss
Matthew Boss
Analyst at JPMorgan

Great. Best of luck.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Thank you, Matt.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Thanks, Matt.

Operator

Our next question comes from Peter Keith of Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Peter Keith
Peter Keith
Analyst at Piper Sandler

Oh, hey. Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. John, could you unpack the Work boot strengths? I guess, well, even Work boot and Work apparel. It's interesting. I know you've re-merchandised Work boots and maybe that's having some self-help benefits. There's also a CapEx cycle in the economy, and you've got these data center build-outs. Do you think there's anything also on the macro front that's contributing to this category growth?

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Yeah, great question. Yeah. As a reminder, one of the adjustments I made coming in as CEO were to reinvigorate the Work boot business. Some of the initiatives were to re-merchandise it, as you just mentioned, shift some of the marketing spend into the Work business overall, as well as market our exclusive brands from a Work standpoint and not just a Western standpoint with those standalone sites. The Work boot performance I'm incredibly pleased with. It is across both pull-on and lace-up to get to that high single-digit comp, which is great to see. It's not one or the other. It is more lace-up than pull-on, not driven by oil if that question kind of comes up. The assortment between some new third-party brands that we brought in and going deeper with some great selling product with existing third-party brands has really beared fruit.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

A little bit of a rebalance, and that kind of affected that exclusive brand penetration as we had some great selling boots from third-party vendors. When we look at the Work apparel side of things, again, increasing positive comps over the last couple of quarters, and as we got into July, high single-digit comps. It was a blend between FR and non-FR product as well. That seemed broad-based and can't point to FR apparel in data center builds or electrification projects or those sort of things. We do hear from stores when a big data center project comes to town and people are working, they tend to shop at Boot Barn for those work needs.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

We'll see pockets, but nothing that we have been able to kind of see in the product being bought in a broad-based manner that would say this is driven by that CapEx cycle. I'm sure it's a piece of it, and we see it at individual stores.

Peter Keith
Peter Keith
Analyst at Piper Sandler

Okay. That's very helpful commentary. Maybe for Jim Watkins, a shorter-term question. If you could just help us understand how you framed up the Q2 guide. The compares after July do get quite a bit easier. On a two-year basis, I could argue things could be a little bit better. How did you come up with that 0%-2% outlook?

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Yeah. You're right, Peter. The compares do get easier as we move throughout the quarter. As we look to guiding the second quarter, we followed a similar approach that we've used historically, and we really just took the four weeks business of July and applied that to the historical seasonality of the business to arrive at the sales for the balance of the quarter. What we did is we added about a point of comp to what that calculation showed us in order to reflect what we believe to be artificially low sales in July due to the points that John mentioned earlier. Really looking at that July business and forecasting that forward, bringing that up a little bit.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Had we used the June, July business and rolled that forward for the rest of the quarter, we would have gotten something higher than what we guided, but wanted to be fair to what we were seeing recently.

Peter Keith
Peter Keith
Analyst at Piper Sandler

Very good. Thanks so much, guys.

Operator

Our next question comes from Steven Zaccone of Citi. Please go ahead.

Steven Zaccone
Steven Zaccone
Analyst at Citi

Great. Good afternoon. Thanks very much for taking my question. I wanted to dig in on the commentary just about the deceleration in Western in the month of July. You referenced more pronounced in women's. Maybe if we zoom out, what's your assessment of the longevity of some of the strengths you've seen in the women's Western side of the women's boots side of the business? Is there a concern that the comparisons are getting too difficult and some of the strengths you've seen may not continue? Then when you look across the industry, have you seen anything from a promotions perspective or maybe the inventory's a little bit heavy, the industry's a little heavy on inventory? Anything to call out there from that perspective?

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Sure. Yeah. I'll start with the promotions piece first. The industry continues to be very rational. We track promotions closely and haven't seen anything that really stands out, especially in all categories. There's been no shift in the promotional cadence within independents, Farm & Ranch, or the other competition in Western and Work. When we look at the women's business, we see opportunity. We break women's boots down between leather and performance, and where we were seeing the larger slowdown, or the bigger slowdown rather, is on the leather side of things. Performance has fared better. We think there's a little bit of a shift going on from leather to our performance boots.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

We also believe there's opportunity in the leather category, where we've had some boots I referenced on the last call that were selling extremely well, and we're trying to get those boots into more stores. Those are at a higher price point, at roughly a $280 price point. We really think that the women's boot category still has opportunity from a merchandising, a good, better, best standpoint. July, again, it was a bit of an anomaly. It's not a normal month, and we think there's still great opportunities. For the merchandising team, for the store operations team, for the marketing team around how we approach women's boots. Stagecoach was new for us this year. Under the Big Sky was year number two in Montana for us, and both of those lean more towards the female customer.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

While I've pushed the team on Work and the Work boot adjustment that I brought in, they also are always trying to improve that women's boot business. We feel good about the future of women's boots. We don't think it was a trend. We don't think that there's any sort of inventory issue that is being reflected in promotional activity elsewhere within the industry.

Steven Zaccone
Steven Zaccone
Analyst at Citi

Okay. Thanks for that detail. The follow-up I had is just on freight. We're in an environment now where oil is going back up. Maybe, Jim, how do we think about freight on a maybe medium-term basis? It sounds like this year is pretty much locked in. As we think about oil trending higher, is this a concern as we look into next year, potentially for freight costs for your business?

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Yeah. The freight, as we look forward, we'll just have to see what happens with the price of oil and fuel surcharges and that sort of thing. We're operating into the same environment as everybody else is. As we get into next year, we'll have to see how that plays out. We feel really good about the improvement in freight that we've modeled in for this year of 10 basis points. Given that we turn our inventory twice a year, we feel that that's a pretty, as you said, pretty locked in, I think is what you said, for this year. That's really based off of those inventory turns.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

As we've talked about last quarter, some of the renegotiations that we've had with some of our logistics and transportation providers in getting those rates down and getting some better discounts that have helped us offset what we've seen so far this year on elevated freight costs. I would remind folks that while we have seen container costs come up pretty significantly over the last few months, they're not nearly what they were a couple of years ago when we were dealing with things with COVID. I think we had 100 basis points of a headwind that year. We're not even close to those levels. We'll see what the market brings over the next few months, but we're probably in a similar spot as others.

Steven Zaccone
Steven Zaccone
Analyst at Citi

Okay. Thanks for the detail. Best of luck.

Operator

Our next question comes from Dylan Carden of William Blair. Please go ahead.

Dylan Carden
Dylan Carden
Analyst at William Blair

Thank you. In understanding July, I guess two questions kind of immediately arise. One, do you have line of sight into the country music calendar for the balance of the year? There have been some reports of major headline cancellation broadly in music concerts. Outside of the World Cup, I guess sort of as the series ended and in periods where there weren't games, were those periods in which you did see better performance?

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Yeah. I'll jump in first on the event calendar. August and September look similar to last year. We don't see a shift in where the pent-up touring and events got pushed into August and September. The best way to put it is August and September look similar to last year. There has been some new tours announced with Garth Brooks and others over the last excuse me, few days. August and September, I would characterize as looking normal.

Dylan Carden
Dylan Carden
Analyst at William Blair

Great.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Your second piece of the question was around the World Cup and when there are games versus not games. Is that right, Dylan?

Dylan Carden
Dylan Carden
Analyst at William Blair

The series has ended now, right? Are you seeing some recovery?

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Yes. Really, we're talking about a four-week period in July where we had a variety of things happening. I don't want to get into the day by day, week by week. What I will say on the World Cup piece of it is that we did look at the data hourly transactions as games were occurring and seeing what was happening in our stores and seeing outsized declines in comp sales during those periods of time. That's what led to John mentioning that as being one of the things that we believe was impacting July. I think we just talked about the concerts and events and the World Cup games. Really, the bigger piece to remind everyone of is that July last year was a +11 comp that we're up against. We're talking about a four-week period of time.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

We're up against really tough, strong comps and had a couple of event shifts and things that didn't happen that happened last year, plus some distraction in that four-week period of time. Gives us pretty good comfort in looking forward to the rest of the quarter where we're up against easier comps and don't have or are not expecting to have at least the same kind of distraction as we just saw. We're feeling pretty good about the guide for the rest of the quarter, and this being a short-term hiccup.

Dylan Carden
Dylan Carden
Analyst at William Blair

Great. On the private label Work boot strength and third party, would you expect private label penetration to go down because of mix shift into Work? Or is it that you're being somehow less competitive in Work? Yeah.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

It's a mix of both. I think we're having really nice success with third-party brands in work boots. Again, as an example, in July, with July comping essentially flat and we're high single digits in work boots, I think it's also the work boot over-penetrating, which is great. It was something that I wanted to adjust and pursue from day one coming in as CEO. I'm happy to see the performance we've had in all of the adjustments we've made to drive work boot comps and have a high single digit in Q1 and have that carry forward into July. I think it's a mix of the two.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Just to clarify, if you exclude work boots and the exclusive brand penetration, we had growth during the quarter. So the exclusive brand business is performing quite well.

Dylan Carden
Dylan Carden
Analyst at William Blair

Right. Okay. Appreciate the time. Thank you.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Thanks, Dylan.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jonathan Komp of Baird. Please go ahead.

Jonathan Komp
Jonathan Komp
Analyst at Baird

Yeah. Hi, good afternoon. John, I want to follow up and ask whether there's any specific initiatives that you may be contemplating either with merchandising your own brands, third-party brands, or any of the categories that you think have potential to drive incremental business that could help inflect the trends that you're seeing.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

There's a couple of things we're doing. I meet with the merchant team once a week. Two key initiatives worth calling out are, one around this leather women's boot business and getting some additional inventory, additional styles, and additional colors in some of the, what I would characterize as the boot sitting in the best side of good, better, best. They're actively trying to get us as much inventory as possible in boots that are selling very well at a relatively high price point. There's some great stories in the women's leather business, and the merchandising team is all over it. The other component is denim.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

We had made some changes to the men's denim merchandising last year. As we set the back-to-school floor set, the start of the back-to-school floor set here in July, we've shifted the women's denim presentation, moved some of the basic core denim to the denim wall, put some of the more premium styles up front, some of the brands remerchandised. If you're looking for that core women's denim from a replenishment standpoint, and we had already done this on the men's side, you'll be able to find it in that denim wall in women's. We're going to have more compelling product stories around denim, and more interesting styles up front on the nesting tables and on the fixtures. On the denim front, it's on women's denim is where we're making the changes.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

On the boot side, again, there are some real winners on women's leather boots that we are pursuing with our third-party vendors.

Jonathan Komp
Jonathan Komp
Analyst at Baird

Okay, great. That's helpful color. Maybe as a follow-up, Jim, I think previously the impression was maybe there was less room for full-year earnings upside relative to some of the past years for a variety of reasons. Given the underlying raise here, even with the softer first few weeks here in Q2, can you just comment maybe on where you're outperforming and the potential to deliver strong earnings at or above your guidance here for the rest of the year? Thank you.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Yes. Really looking at the transactions, we've guided the year flat to up slightly in transactions. Any opportunity we have to improve the transactions and use our traffic counters that we now have in the stores to help drive behavior and sales behavior and improve the transactions, that's something that we can look at. One of the things that was really strong during the first quarter, and you can see that in the sales numbers versus the comp numbers, are our new stores have been performing extremely well. We're pleased with that. We saw a nice flow through in the first quarter to the bottom line.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

As we look to the expenses and making sure that we're continuing to control expenses and being smart with our store labor and other expenses, there's some potential upside that we would look to see as we get through the year and if we're able to drive transactions and get some sales beat, they'll be able to flow through some nice earnings.

Jonathan Komp
Jonathan Komp
Analyst at Baird

Okay, great. Best of luck. Thank you.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Thanks, Jon.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jay Sole of UBS. Please go ahead.

Jay Sole
Jay Sole
Analyst at UBS

Great. Thank you so much. My first question is, just talk to us about how you thought about including the tariff refund in the guide versus potentially excluding it, and what are you assuming for tariff rates for the rest of the year?

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Yeah. If you look at the second page of the earnings release, we laid out what we expect to see through the balance of the year. Really, the way that flows is based upon the accounting. We've received the cash in the door as of the start of the second quarter or near the start of our second quarter. The way the P&L impact is going to be recorded over the course of the year based off of our inventory turns and when we actually paid the tariffs is how we account for that. That's what's laid out in that table on slide two. As we look to the balance of the year and what's included, we've really contemplated the most recent 10%-12% tariff rate in our guide for the balance of the year.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

If there are shifts to those rates, then we will adjust our pricing accordingly, similar to what we did a year ago in navigating the tariff environment. That's our expectation on how we would plan that. Not really a change in what we had two months ago when we reported what we had considered with the tariff rates as we looked out for the full year.

Jay Sole
Jay Sole
Analyst at UBS

Got it. Then just want to ask about real estate. How are you feeling about the comp leverage point going forward? Has there been any change from last quarter? If you think about 70 stores for the year and going forward a similar number, how focused are you on hitting a number versus saying, "Well, if the real estate deals aren't right, then it's going to be 65, or if they're really, really good, maybe it's 75." Can you just talk about your flexibility around that and sort of whether you're prioritizing hitting a number in terms of openings or if it's really about real estate and trying to get that leverage point down?

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Yeah, really the goal is to open the best stores that we can open and not settle for stores that are going to be subpar. We've got the goal out there of the 12%-15%. We like the pipeline as it's laid out for the balance of this year. We feel good about our guide for this year. As we get into next year, we expect to be within that range. As we evaluate real estate, we'll be able to lock into a number that's a little bit more precise than what we have out there for next year and as we lay out guidance. As far as the leverage points go, we're in a good place with our occupancy and occupancy rates, and I know that 10% leverage point on buying and occupancy and distribution center costs is often an area of focus.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

As we look to the EBIT rate expansion, we feel great about that, particularly this year with the more recent tariff impact or help in the business. It's at 240 basis points we will have expanded EBIT over a three-year period. If you exclude the tariffs, that's 170 basis points of expansion over the three-year period. We think we've got the nice merchandise margin drivers that can help offset that. A reminder that every one of our stores is four-wall EBIT positive. While there's a little bit of rate pressure with the new stores, we're able to contribute earnings to the bottom line. One thing I'd just add, we've opened 93 stores over the last 12 months, 20% increase in store count over the last 12 months.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

The math on that is just going to put some pressure on the occupancy rate, but that's included in the design of what we're doing here with opening these stores.

Jay Sole
Jay Sole
Analyst at UBS

Completely makes sense. Thank you so much. Very helpful.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Thanks, Jay.

Operator

Our next question comes from Janine Stichter of BTIG. Please go ahead.

Janine Stichter
Janine Stichter
Analyst at BTIG

Hi, thanks for taking my question. I want to go back to the exclusive brand penetration. You're sitting here this year at a bit over 40%. I know in the past you've talked at maybe surpassing 50%. Does this change at all the way that you think about the long-term opportunity? Also was just curious what you're seeing on some of the newer e-commerce initiatives. In the past, you talked about TikTok Shop and also some of the brand new e-commerce sites. Thanks so much.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Absolutely. I still believe 50% is the right number. I don't think as we stand today and the brands that we have, that it is north of 50%. I think we're a house of brands, we're a retailer. I believe 50% is the right number, and I still have full confidence that we will get to 50% over the coming years. This is a rebalancing due to some wins in the work boot space, which is good news. As we look at the exclusive brands sites, they continue to gain traction. The traffic or sessions as well as the sales coming from those sites, continue to comp upwards. Cody James is still, given that it's our biggest brand, makes sense, is the biggest success among those. I'm still very pleased with the storytelling and the brand building that we're able to achieve with those sites.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

The sales that come from them are a nice after effect, we've got millions of sessions or visitors coming to those sites and learning more about Shyanne or Cody James or Hawx than they ever would on a product detail or a product listing page on bootbarn.com. Thrilled with the amount of traffic we're getting to those sites. TikTok Shop continues to be great. We are selling both our own brands on TikTok Shop as well as certain third-party brands have partnered with us, which has been exciting. We continue to see nice traction on TikTok. It continues to grow very quickly in the U.S., as I'm sure many of you know. I believe it's the size of eBay right now in terms of sales. TikTok has become a pretty broad and large marketplace.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

We continue to use everyday influencers as I called them last time. I've seen this term kind of bandied around lately of nano creators or nano influencers. Everyone seems to be leaning into these influencers with less than 10,000 followers. We're partnering with different sororities going into RushTok season this year. All's going well with TikTok Shop as well. Still very bullish on it.

Janine Stichter
Janine Stichter
Analyst at BTIG

Great. Thanks so much.

Operator

Our next question comes from Max Rakhlenko of TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Max Rakhlenko
Max Rakhlenko
Analyst at TD Cowen

Hey. Thanks a lot. First, can you speak to the health of your customer and whether some of the macro pressures from higher gas and other costs may have a greater impact on the more rural economy than the broader consumer? As you did mention, I think that traffic in July was down across all regions, which feels like it's maybe a bit more of a broader situation.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Yeah. Again, July, four weeks, summertime, World Cup distraction. It was broad-based. You're absolutely right. I don't believe it was gas prices or something macro. When we look at our customer data, and we do this at the end of each quarter, we're not seeing a K-shaped customer. We're not seeing the lower income customer cutting back versus our higher end customer. It was very even in terms of subdued traffic in the month of July for, we think, the reasons we described. We're not seeing anything that would say the lower income customer is cutting back on trips or purchases. As a reminder, we're very much a needs-based business, and if you need our product to work, it's going to be one of the last purchases you cut.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Nothing we're seeing would indicate either by geography or income level that it's a particular group of consumers that have shifted their behavior. I think it's more, the month of July was just a little bit odd for a variety of reasons.

Max Rakhlenko
Max Rakhlenko
Analyst at TD Cowen

Got it. That's helpful. On in-store transaction trends, more broadly, can you speak to the mix of new shoppers versus returning shoppers? Can you discuss the success that you're having with the new websites, in getting new shoppers to visit stores? As I think that's one of the key sort of strategies to continuing to drive in-store transactions.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Yeah. I'll start with the sites. Given, and I just quoted this with Janine, the millions of sessions we have on those sites, as with most e-commerce sites, the conversion usually hovers somewhere around a two. Most of those people aren't shopping on the site. We're trying to drive that traffic to the stores to drive the storytelling on the site. I love the brand. Where can I find it? Well, you can buy it at Boot Barn or Sheplers Country Outfitter or Amazon, TikTok, but the best place to buy it is in our 550+ stores. We're constantly using those exclusive brand sites to drive traffic into stores. The attribution of that, of course, is difficult, right? We don't have it's not a ship to store order. These are people who visited the site and then hopefully come to store.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

I don't have an attribution number for the sites that I can share with you, but the sustained traffic that we see, I'm pretty darn optimistic about. The first part of the question again, my apologies, was?

Max Rakhlenko
Max Rakhlenko
Analyst at TD Cowen

I guess new versus returning shoppers.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Yeah. We continue to see a balance between new and returning. We've quoted in the past that is roughly half and half. As I'm looking at the number of new customers, by region, in some of the parts of the country, we're a little newer. For example, the Northeast, it tilts higher. In legacy markets such as California and Texas, it's a little bit lower, but there's been no real swings

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

In new customers versus existing over the last few years since that big COVID push in fiscal 2022.

Max Rakhlenko
Max Rakhlenko
Analyst at TD Cowen

Got it. That's helpful. Thanks, guys, and good luck.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jon Keypour of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Jon Keypour
Jon Keypour
Analyst at Goldman Sachs

Hey, good afternoon. Thank you for the question. I wanted to dig into new openings. Just wondering how those have been trending versus a year or two ago. I think you reiterated the $3.2 million. That number's been floating around for a while. Just curious about whether or not that may get an upgrade. Just in terms of learnings that you could apply from opening to opening, and how your assortment changes, maybe, and how you tailor stores based on region or customer type. I just want to get a sense of productivity in those new stores and how that's advanced. Thank you.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Thanks for the question, Jon. The $3.2 million number, we're tracking to that. I would say it's roughly in line with that. Maybe slightly better, but not meaningfully more than $3.2 million. We'll continue to monitor that, and if we need to update that to a different number, we'll let you know. They're opening really nicely across the country and different geographies, pleased with how those are coming along. As far as the learnings that we've taken as we open stores in different geographies, we start with a pretty similar assortment across the country, we will look at other stores that we believe behave similarly to the stores we're about to open up, and we'll make some tweaks around that.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

We'll monitor the new stores very closely to see what's selling, what's not selling, look at the competitive nature of the market that it's in, and make tweaks to the assortment accordingly. Some of those happen before we open. Many of them happen after we open and try to address those so that we're maximizing the traffic that we get there. We're also monitoring the marketing around that and looking at areas that we can improve and how we can drive more people into those stores, depending on what the market or what the store is doing. It really is a store-by-store analysis that we look at. As you walk into any of our stores across the country, you likely will not see or notice a significant difference from store to store.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Our merchandising team and our stores team, they will notice the subtle differences as you move from market to market or store to store.

Jon Keypour
Jon Keypour
Analyst at Goldman Sachs

Okay. Thank you. Just another one on marketing. That came in a little bit lower, I think, than we might have expected. Just wondering, are you guys seeing a better ROAS, or what exactly is driving maybe some of the pullback on the marketing spend?

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

It's really just timing shifts between quarters. We target a 3% marketing for the full year. We model that marketing out in advance of the quarter, sometimes we're able to get all of that in. Sometimes things shift. Sometimes there are new store openings that shift or grand openings that move around. It really is just timing, nothing more than that.

Jon Keypour
Jon Keypour
Analyst at Goldman Sachs

Okay. Thank you, guys.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Thank you, Jon.

Operator

Our next question comes from Chris Nardone of Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Chris Nardone
Chris Nardone
Analyst at Bank of America

Thanks, guys. First, how should we think about the pricing assumptions that are embedded in your guidance? Are you expecting third-party brands to take more price this summer? Are you seeing customers chase product on promotion more over the last few months relative to the trend line over the last few quarters?

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Great questions. The pricing assumptions are It feels like we're back to normal price increases, maybe a little bit lower on the increases than what we would historically see, but definitely lower than what we saw last summer. I think that trying to manage price increases and minimize those for the consumers is something that we and also our third-party vendors have been aware of and conscious of, so we're seeing those be more muted this year. Typically, summer is when we'll see those price increases, so that's what's happening on the pricing front. What was the second part of the question? Sorry about that, Chris.

Chris Nardone
Chris Nardone
Analyst at Bank of America

No worries. Just whether you're seeing a higher take rate of products that are on promotion over the last few months relative to what you've seen over the last several quarters and years.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

I would say not really. It's been very similar. We have markdowns as a percentage of inventory remain pretty low for us. As we said on our last call, the promotions that we're doing for clearance items have been not as deep as what we saw maybe a year ago, we're not seeing a shift towards promotion.

Chris Nardone
Chris Nardone
Analyst at Bank of America

Okay. Just one last one. I know inventory per store was only up slightly during the quarter. Just given, I know it's only been a month of slowdown, just talk to us about the health of inventory on the balance sheet, particularly that women's leather boot category.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Yeah. We feel great about the health of the inventory. As I just mentioned, the markdowns as a percentage of inventory are below historical standards and pretty low. We've made a conscious effort, we've talked about just being in stock on the, what we call our tried-and-true styles, the styles that are on replenishment, that oftentimes have been in our assortment for years, making sure that we've got the product that our customers want. Our inventory being on replenishment style kind of shows that it's pretty low risk. If it takes us a little bit longer to sell through it, that's fine. It is still going to sell. Not something we're concerned about right now.

Chris Nardone
Chris Nardone
Analyst at Bank of America

Sounds good. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Our next question comes from Sam Poser of Williams Trading. Please go ahead.

Sam Poser
Sam Poser
Analyst at Williams Trading

Thanks for taking my question. First of all, to what degree has your vendor count changed? Has it come down? Is that what's helping provide the leverage on the freight costs? Are you becoming much more important with less vendors, with more tried-and-true items, which would make moving containers and all that stuff much more cost-efficient and get you better pricing at the same time?

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

The vendor count's pretty similar to what we've had in the past. It's really not impacting the freight. What is happening is we do volume discounts with some of our third-party providers. We can take a full container load of product or styles from that vendor and get that discount. That's something that, as we grow and scale, we're just buying more with each vendor just because of pure size and the growth that we've seen. That helps us get more of those volume discounts. Not really anything to do with the freight, per se.

Sam Poser
Sam Poser
Analyst at Williams Trading

Were there any markets in the quarter that performed better than others, regions of the United States? Also, as you've opened stores, are there new markets you've entered or are planning to enter for the balance of the year? Maybe how some of the new markets, such as parts of the Northeast, are doing?

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Yeah. There are always markets that perform better than others. Nothing worth calling out on this call. As far as opening into new markets, there are new markets that we'll be heading into over the course of the year. Not something that we want to talk about on the public call for competitive purposes.

Sam Poser
Sam Poser
Analyst at Williams Trading

All right. Thanks very much, and continued success.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Thank you, Sam.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Thanks, Sam.

Operator

Our next question comes from Corey Tarlowe of Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Corey Tarlowe
Corey Tarlowe
Analyst at Jefferies

Great, thanks. I just wanted to ask a question on fashion trends. I recognize that's not the genesis of what your business does. I'm curious that the categories that are exposed to certain areas of fashion, are there any specific trends worth calling out?

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

No, not really. If you look at all the categories where there is some more fashionable product, it is very much as it's always been. If I really had to get down into the details and look for something, you'll see some brands do a little more of a wider flare. We still have boot cut jeans make up the vast majority of what we sell at Boot Barn. You're seeing a silhouette that is not that barrel jean I had talked about on past calls or at conferences, but a little bit of a wider bootleg jean from some of the Western retailers. Again, that's a very, very small piece of the women's denim business, which on its own is only roughly 5% of our business. By far and large, it's more of the same Western, traditional Western boots, traditional boot cut jeans selling.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

In the performance category, there's a lot of rubber-soled, kind of brown women's boots that are selling. Nothing new to really call out from a fashion standpoint, unless you really want to get into some newer silhouettes on the denim side that make up a very small piece of business.

Corey Tarlowe
Corey Tarlowe
Analyst at Jefferies

Understood. Thank you so much. Just to follow up on an earlier question, Jim, I believe it was about AUR versus transactions. I was wondering if you could talk about what's embedded within the guidance for this year from a ticket perspective. It does sound like the increases should not be as sizable as what we've seen in prior years, I was wondering if you could provide more color there in terms of what you're seeing. Thanks so much.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Yes, I think you characterized that correctly, Corey. We're expecting AUR to be up 2%-3% on the year, and we expect the transactions to be flat to up one on the year. That kind of gets us to that 3% stores comp number at the high end of our range. Addressed the question earlier about the price increases this year being more tempered and more in line, if not a little bit lower than what we normally see from the third-party vendors.

Corey Tarlowe
Corey Tarlowe
Analyst at Jefferies

Great. Thanks so much, best of luck.

Jim Watkins
Jim Watkins
CFO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Thank you, Corey.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Thanks, Corey.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jeremy Hamblin of Craig-Hallum. Please go ahead.

Analyst at Craig-Hallum

Hey, this is Will on for Jeremy. It sounds like you're still seeing a lot of new customers falling through the exclusive brands. I'm just curious if you've seen any sort of behavior differences between this new cohort of customers and your existing base.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

For the exclusive brand sites, no, there's nothing particular to call out around the exclusive brand customers. Those who purchase on the sites, those are the ones, of course, we have the most information about. It varies by site. Some of those sites are more impulsive purchases that will have a lower AUR or ADT rather, depending on the site. There's nuances to each of the sites. We're now running Idyllwind, Hawx, Cody James, Cleo, and Shyanne. Behavior shifts a little bit by those sites in terms of the type of purchase, since it's more about product discovery, and we're finding those customers on places like Meta and TikTok. Some of those purchases are a little more impulsive as they discover the brand and learn about the brand.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

On the TikTok side, to be fair, those do skew a little bit younger. Again, these sites do a very small piece of the overall business. It really is about the storytelling and the brand building, and the sessions and the time that people spend on those sites learning about the brand so they can come into a Boot Barn store and experience what makes us great. It's the store more than anything. Our goal with all of those sites is to drive those folks into stores. For the 2% who decide to purchase on the site, we do everything in our power to get those folks into the stores as well and convert them into an omni-channel customer.

Analyst at Craig-Hallum

Okay. That's helpful. Thank you.

John Hazen
John Hazen
CEO at Boot Barn Holdings, Inc

Thank you, Will.

Operator

This concludes the question and answer session and today's conference call. This call has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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