Bloomsbury Publishing H1 2026 Earnings Report

Bloomsbury Publishing EPS Results

• Actual EPS: GBX 23.14
• Consensus EPS: N/A
• Beat/Miss: N/A
• One Year Ago EPS: N/A

Bloomsbury Publishing Revenue Results

• Actual Revenue: N/A
• Expected Revenue: N/A
• Beat/Miss: N/A
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Bloomsbury Publishing Announcement Details

• Quarter: H1 2026
• Date: 10/23/2025
• Time: Before Market Opens
• Conference Call Date: Thursday, October 23, 2025
• Conference Call Time: 4:00AM ET

Bloomsbury Publishing (LON:BMY) publishes academic, educational, and general fiction and non-fiction books for children, teachers, students, researchers, and professionals worldwide. The company offers books and digital resources to international research community and higher education students; online law, accounting, and tax services for the United Kingdom and professionals; and publishing services for corporations and institutions. It serves communities of interest in sports and sports science, nautical, military history, natural history, arts and crafts, and popular science; and offers books for students of the arts, humanities, and social sciences. In addition, the company provides digital resources and databases for school libraries and professionals, as well as educational content for primary and secondary schools; and professional development content for trainee teachers and teachers. Further, it publishes non-fiction list, such as cookery, sport, crime, natural history, health, and well-being books. Additionally, the company publishes fiction lists for adults; and titles in print, e-book and audio book formats for both adult and children. Bloomsbury Publishing Plc was incorporated in 1986 and is based in London, the United Kingdom.

Bloomsbury Publishing H1 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Key Takeaways

• Positive Sentiment: Bloomsbury reported a strong H1 with £160m revenue, £24m pretax profit (15% margin), diluted EPS 22.9p and a 5% interim dividend increase, and the board expects full‑year results ahead of expectations.
• Positive Sentiment: The group signed its first non‑exclusive AI licensing agreement (academic list), with author opt‑ins and royalty sharing, and management expects this to be a recurring new revenue stream as more LLMs seek high‑quality content.
• Positive Sentiment: Academic & professional publishing grew ~20% in the period with margin expansion (to ~24%), the Roman & Littlefield acquisition is substantially integrated (6,000 titles digitized) and Bloomsbury is expanding into Asia with a Singapore hub to capture long‑term growth.
• Positive Sentiment: Consumer IP monetisation looks strong with major bestsellers (Gillian Anderson), a high‑profile Catherine Rundell film deal with Walt Disney Studios, the HBO Max/Warner Potter series filming, and accelerating audio distribution via non‑exclusive deals (e.g., Spotify).

Presentation

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

Good morning and a very warm welcome to the Bloomsbury interim results. We're particularly pleased to see so many analysts and on the livestream to see shareholders and potential shareholders. A very warm welcome to you all. I'm Nigel Newton, Chief Executive of Bloomsbury, and on my right is Penny Scott-Bayfield, Chief Financial Officer of Bloomsbury, and Tamsin Garrity, Head of Investor Relations. We're delighted to present to you now our results for the period, the rather interesting Bloomsbury months of March through to the end of August. You can see on slide two, our strategy of diversification has created a portfolio of portfolios. That is our mantra at Bloomsbury, much as our shareholders, the fund managers, do in their own portfolios, in an effort to balance the vicissitudes of one area against another. We believe we've created a resilient business model for long-term success.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

We're pleased to report revenue of GBP 160 million in the six months, profit of GBP 24 million, with a strong and improved margin of 15%. We've signed our first non-exclusive AI licensing agreement with potential for more. On the one hand, and on the other, we have major bestsellers from our consumer division, including Gillian Anderson, who dominates the charts in the second half and has been number one in paperback for nine weeks now. It is of enormous economic significance that our bestselling author, Kathryn Rundell, has secured a long-term film deal with Walt Disney Studios for her brilliant Impossible Creatures series. We demonstrate our confidence in the future by increasing the dividend by 5% and stating that we expect to deliver full-year results ahead of expectations. Now, on the next slide, Bloomsbury's investment case, let's consider that for a minute.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

We built a portfolio which has the benefit of being diversified across academic and consumer publishing, digitally and internationally, for resilient success. That is rare in our industry. Now, on the next slide, dividend, look at that marvelous upward swing. We have a strong dividend record, which any PLC would be proud of. This continues with a 5% interim dividend increase and expectation of the same for the full year, which reflects both the achievements of this financial year and our confidence that the company is well positioned for further development. Now, may I hand the mic over to Penny for the financial highlights? Penny.

[Penny Scott-Bayfield, CFO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Starting with our key financial highlights. First of all, the revenue of GBP 160 million, which you can see against the last two years. Our pre-tax profit, as Nigel mentioned, a 15% margin, so that's delivering pre-tax profit of GBP 24 million. Our diluted EPS of 22.98p, benefiting from that lower effective tax rate. Net cash of GBP 2.4 million, which we'll come on to expand in a minute. As Nigel has mentioned, the dividend per share of 4.08p at the interim, a 5% increase, continuing our track record there. Moving on to our strong balance sheet. Net cash, GBP 2.4 million. That's net of our current $20 million loan. Some of you will remember we took out a $37.5 million loan to help fund our acquisition of Rowman & Littlefield in May 2024.

[Penny Scott-Bayfield, CFO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

We've used our good cash position and generation to pay a further $10 million of that, $10 million of that early, and that's on top of the $7.5 million that we paid down at the end of the previous financial year. Our working capital, you can see the increase there. That's mainly around timing of our debtors, but you will see that impact coming through in the cash flow as well. Overall, as you can see, we remain our strong balance sheet, which really underpins our opportunities for the future. Moving on to our cash flow, three points I'd like to highlight here. First of all, you can see that trading strength, delivering the GBP 24 million of profit in this first half. You can see the GBP 9.4 million going out to dividends, rewarding our shareholders who remain front and center of everything we do.

[Penny Scott-Bayfield, CFO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

You can see the impact of the increased working capital coming through in that first half. We also highlight the advances paid in the period, if you think of that as our pipeline of future consumer titles. You can see that remains strong. Royalty payments, that's the one payment I'm always extremely happy to make. That's benefiting our authors, and you can see how they're really sharing in our success. Coming on now, a deeper dive into our Academic and Professional division, which, as you know, we are presenting on its own for the first time. You can see here, first of all, the revenue up 20% in the first half. As Nigel has mentioned, and we'll talk more about, that's benefited from our first non-exclusive AI licensing agreement. You can see that has benefited both the revenue and the profit in this first half.

[Penny Scott-Bayfield, CFO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

We're very pleased to say the integration of Rowman & Littlefield, as many of you know, we fully integrate all of our acquisitions, and that's substantially complete. I know we're sort of referencing it almost as a, you know, taken as read that we've done so well on that. Integrating an acquisition that's 4x, by a factor of four, the largest acquisition we've done, I think is a real testament to our operational effectiveness. Of course, that allows us to really start benefiting from and leveraging their great content. We'll come on to more about that shortly. As we've highlighted over the last two years, we're seeing continued budgetary pressure on the U.K. and U.S. institutions in the academic market. To finish on a more positive note, the expansion in Asia, we've talked a bit about the opportunities for growth we see here.

[Penny Scott-Bayfield, CFO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

As we see geopolitical pressure in the U.K. and the U.S. markets, there's huge opportunities in those Asian markets, and we've referenced that before. Just highlighting again, we're continuing with our plans to open that office by the end of the year and really tap into those opportunities in that region. Moving on to the academic division's P&L, you can see here, we've split out the three key types of income here. You can see the digital sales, we've included BDR and the AI licensing within here. You can see that great growth both on last year and the year before. You can see actually the surprising resilience of print sales in a market that's really strategically shifting to digital. You can see that's, you know, some resilience in there, but also the impact of that R&L acquisition. We brought on this incredible quality content. Looking at the margin strength, which Nigel mentioned, you can see 24% for this period versus the mid-teens, 16% that we've seen in the two previous halves. We've generally guided to a mid-teens margin, but you can see the potential for upside there.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

On to AI licensing, I'm incredibly excited about the potential which AI holds for Bloomsbury, both on the sales side in licensing, but also on the streamlining of work processes. We've signed our first agreement in the period. As we've stressed, we can do as many of these as we like, and we are in contact with all of the major LLMs that you're aware of. Watch this space. It's very important for those LLMs to be trained on the highest quality content, which is what we think the many tens of thousands of titles in the academic area that we've built up represent as an opportunity to these tech companies. We've also engaged with our authors, inviting them to opt in. If they don't opt in, then their work won't be trained upon as a result of our deal.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

It could be due to piracy, but we wish to follow the wishes of our authors, and that's very important, and not all our competitors have chosen to do that. Most importantly, when you have a contract with an AI company, you have the guardrails that you want in place, and that's very important. I think the large amounts of litigation, such as the settlement for, I think it was GBP 1.5 billion, which is eye-watering with Anthropic, is encouraging other people to enter into agreements with publishers rather than inhabit the Wild West that they were before. That is the way the landscape looks at the moment, and further potential opportunities are in discussion at the moment.

[Penny Scott-Bayfield, CFO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

Updating on digital resources, which, as you know, is our digital products specifically created for the academic market. Here, revenue of GBP 13.6 million was slightly impacted by the adverse or weaker U.S. dollar, so we were up in constant currency. We wanted to really highlight the resilience of this. We've talked before about how when people get BDR products, they hang onto them. They become a really core part of the teaching and learning, evidenced here by subscriptions being at 50% and renewal rate we're maintaining at 90%. That really speaks to the resilience. As I mentioned earlier, really starting to leverage the great quality content that we bought from a print perspective from our R&L. We're continuing to expand our products and the opportunity of R&L digitizing those. We've got over 6,000 of R&L's titles digitized, and that's enabling us to enhance, including enhancing the BDR collections title count, which is an important part of being able to grow that.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

The greater diversification of our consumer publishing portfolio continues to shine through with a real breadth of critical and commercial success across multiple genres, as you can see in the slide behind me. In nonfiction, Gillian Anderson's Want has been in the top 10 for 15 weeks, including 9 in the number one spot. The good news is there will be a sequel to that book to come. In children's, I've alluded to Kathryn Rundell's remarkable deal, apparently agreed personally with the President of Disney, Bob Iger, so we can be confident it will receive good treatment. In addition, the Warner HBO Max series of Harry Potter has started filming last month at Leavesden. If you just consider the number of books, seven, and consider the growing word count as they move through the series, I think we can expect approaching, well, dozens and dozens of different episodes.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

This will run and run. We certainly found when the original movies came out from 2000 with The Philosopher's Stone that the books were propelled back into the bestseller list by people who'd seen the film, a mass market audience who wanted to understand what was really going on. There are 800,000 new eight-year-olds in Britain alone every year, let alone the entire, perhaps some of you are responsible for some of those, let alone the many other countries around the world where we publish the work in the English language, which is really everywhere except the United States. The release date has been announced by HBO Max yet, but we conjecture that it will be in early 2027, helping to introduce the series to more children.

[Penny Scott-Bayfield, CFO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

Coming on to the consumer P&L, first of all, the total revenue of GBP 113 million. Reminding everyone, as you know, versus a very strong comp last year, you can see that's still up 13% on two years ago. You can see that underlying strength. When we're looking against a more normalized year, a more normalized period of two years ago, you can see the resilience of both print and digital. Within digital, really highlighting the audio that we'll come on to next, we talk about our portfolio of portfolios and how we can monetize content. Hopefully, this morning, we're sharing with you some of the new ways in which we're doing that, and the expanding ways in which we're doing that.

[Penny Scott-Bayfield, CFO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

With this deeper dive into audio, one of the key things is that we've been able to increase the market, and we're not going to take all the credit for that. Spotify have had quite a big influence there. As you remember, some of you remember, we entered into a non-exclusive deal with Spotify as well, and we've really seen the market expand. That's a wider market, and that's reaching new audiences, which we're seeing almost on a daily basis. As that's happening, we're also increasing our scale. You can see 1,500 titles. We really prioritize the titles which we think will do best in audio and the scale of the new titles that we're bringing onto those platforms on an almost daily basis. We've highlighted some of the narrators. I think that Kathryn Rundell's Impossible Creatures, Sam West, that's a particularly great example of a really super combination which is doing really well. This is award-winning content. In any market, what we have to keep doing, which we do so well, is to produce incredibly high content, and that really gets the audience reach.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

Look at that extraordinary list. These are our current bestselling and some of our upcoming titles still to go this autumn. This year has an array of titles from, as you've seen, Samantha Shannon, Kathryn Rundell, J.K. Rowling, and Poppy O'Toole. In Academic and Professional, we're very excited by the launch of the Marvel Age of Comics series. You wouldn't have guessed that would come from our Academic division, but it does, and it's been embraced by Marvel, putting them further in the history books. Looking to our innovative publishing of Harry Potter, we have the Pocket Potter series launching with one book per character, aimed probably at a younger audience than the books themselves. There is such awareness that these books are grabbed by children, and it's nicely timed to benefit from the huge opportunity of the HBO Max series.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

Moving on, we launched our Bloomsbury 2030 vision last year, as many of you will remember, and you were there. We've already achieved much of the operational change that we sought to. Looking at our growth, our strategic expansion in Singapore to capitalize on those huge numbers predicted by the World Bank of an increased student attendance, particularly in Asia, is happening, and we will be live and running between now and Christmas. Looking at our portfolio, the integration of Rowman & Littlefield is substantially complete. That has been a fantastic acquisition. Turning to our people, we continue to be able to attract the key talent in publishing that we wish to. Starting with our new Chief Financial Officer, Keith, please raise your hand and say hi to Keith.

[Keith Underwood, Incoming CFO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

I look forward to meeting you all properly in due course.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

He still works for The Guardian, but he's come to say hello, and Keith will join on the 2nd of February. A very warm welcome to you, Keith. On the next slide, the Bloomsbury flywheel keeps on spinning in its virtuous circle of investment in content, driving demand, and generating cash to fund further investment. Finally, the board expects to deliver full-year profit ahead of expectations. On this slide, you will see a moment when Bloomsbury was voted Publisher of the Year at a ceremony in May, which was a good moment to see the achievements of my 1,250 colleagues worldwide recognized. We're now at the exciting bit where we solicit questions from you. Fiona, your hand shot up like an Apollo rocket.

Thank you. It's [Fiona Alford, Williams of Medicine]. First of all, can you give us more background on the structure of the Singapore market? I mean, is there a group of target universities at the top and other incumbents, and how are you planning to tackle it? That's the first one. The second one is on the AI deals. What sort of proportion of the authors did decide to opt in, and do they get a benefit from so doing? The third one, because we have to have three, it's the rule.

[Penny Scott-Bayfield, CFO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

It's really not for the rest of you.

It's just on whether there's any improvement in the mood music in the academic, in the U.S. particularly. Thank you.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

Including the name Singapore in our expansion may be deceptive because it isn't about Singapore. That's just a base. It's about China, Taiwan, India, the whole region, because that is where new universities are being founded and new budgets are being created to buy the sort of digital resources that we publish. Singapore, as many of you know, is a great and stable base in which to have your sort of legal entity, but it's not only about Singapore. On your AI and authors question, that's happening. This is all real-time stuff. What I can tell you is, given that it's pretty hard to get people to sign anything, it goes into the too boring pile next.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

We are very impressed by the number of authors who've signed, and there are many more to come, and we're making ourselves available for individual conversations with authors because AI is the big beast in the room, and not everybody understands it. I think it's changing, if not week by week, certainly month by month, as probably all of us start to use AI even more and realize that our future will depend upon having high-quality information in there. Is there a financial incentive? Absolutely. We've announced an academic-level royalty that they will receive from any income that we achieve. The permission, the opt-in that we've sought, is to all AI activity. We're not doing this on a deal-by-deal basis.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

The academic market, it has to be great. It is the chief area of investment for most governments in most countries in the world.Yes, it's taken a short-term hit because of new political policies, and we would rather that that were not the case. It is, and it's the new reality, and we're all operating well within it. We made very clear at this meeting and in the previous couple that the significant growth won't be in the old world. It will be in the new world, and we're good at the new world. Watch this space. Alistair.

[Alastair Reid, Head of Media Research at Investec]

Thank you. Alistair Reed from Investec. I'll do two with multiple parts.

[Penny Scott-Bayfield, CFO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

Thanks for the heads up.

[Alastair Reid, Head of Media Research at Investec]

Firstly, we obviously touched on some movie rights. We've seen Fox and HarperCollins signing a reciprocal first-look agreement. Is that something you might consider and be interested in? Secondly, if you can comment at all on your AI licensing agreement, is there any recurring element to that in the future, and did you receive a cash payment for that in the first half? Thanks.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

Terrific. Movie rights. We've had a first-look agreement in the past. We had one with the brilliant Creative Artists Agency in Hollywood, but we found that it didn't really move the dial because anything that's so clearly crying out to be made a movie like Impossible Creatures, it's going to happen regardless of that. Secondly, the sort of books from Bloomsbury's very large annual output that movie studios are going to be interested in will typically be represented by a literary agent, and agents always retain the film rights. It's very unlikely that any first-look agreement is actually going to have the rights to deliver that deal. The Kathryn Rundell Disney deal was very much done by her agents, but enthusiastically cheered on by Bloomsbury. AI agreements. I personally regard the income as recurring.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

It's not recurring in the sense of getting a royalty every six months like a book contract, but we have new contents the whole time that will be the subject of the AI deals of the future. That's point one. Point two is, does anybody know how many LLMs there are in the world? That includes me. Let's say there are 20. We've just done one deal, and all these people are hungry. They will recur, Alistair, in the sense that I see a flow of them for many years to come, and there will be new LLMs. I think this is the new big new business area for publishing. There is the tech world, which is so multifarious, but what is the middle letter of LLM? It's language, and that's our product is the language recorded on the page, the written word.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

If you ask ChatGPT a question, you get the answer in language. We are the root of all of the riches that will flow from AI. We waited about two years before we did our first AI agreement because we wanted the market to really establish itself and the mistakes to be made and people to discover that guardrails are a good idea. What we did notice in those two years is that all of those agreements were confidential, and that is because they are in an extremely competitive world themselves, and they don't want to flag to their competitors what they're paying, how much they're paying, who they're paying it to, when they're paying. I can answer nothing on that. The only way I could be totally transparent would be to do no AI deals, and then I would have no questions to answer. Next, hi. Yeah.

[Alastair Reid, Head of Media Research at Investec]

Sorry, just to finish, did you receive any cash?

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

That was one of the questions I didn't answer.

[Penny Scott-Bayfield, CFO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

Yes, no, we didn't.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

Oh, okay. There you got an answer. Penny's much nicer than me. Hi there, William.

[Analyst at Berenberg Bank]

Thanks. Will Lloyd from Berenberg. Just a couple from me. Firstly, it relates to the AI deal. Is it just purely related to backlist titles, or will it include an element of frontlist? Secondly, if you could remind us on Asia and the potential ramp-up of that business into next year, that would be great.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

Okay. You can prepare on Asia. All AI deals are title-specific. You don't say you can have, you know, like a first-look option, the rights to future books that we may publish in that area. In a sense, they're all backlist, but it would include the very recent publications that we have. Of course, we've done our deal on our academic list, which is way over 100,000 titles. I'm not saying that's what's in the deal. I'm saying that's the total universe that's available to be chosen from. We also have a general side, and it isn't really the mood of the world to be putting one's consumer books on the whole into these deals, but it may be in the future. We've got a lot of gas in the tank, I think, for the frontlist of the future, if you like, and the whole trade side.

[Penny Scott-Bayfield, CFO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

Yeah. Just to share some stats with you. The World Bank projection is 380 million global higher education students by 2030. That's up 73% over a nine-year period. The forecast is for 60% of those to be in Asia. You can see that expansion. We're used to the U.S. market being by far the biggest. That's why we've expanded there organically and through acquisition. There is huge growth predicted there. Already, there are very specific things happening. Singapore has eased their rules for international students, making it more attractive for international students, which has been one of the challenges in both the U.S. and U.K. markets. That's more attractive for international students now and for longer-term engagement, which is good. South Korea is doing a Study Career 300,000 initiative specifically to attract 300,000 students. You can see the sort of scale of stuff that's going on there.

[Penny Scott-Bayfield, CFO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

In India, where we obviously have had a base for the last 10 years, we're focusing our academic sales efforts there. We're already seeing foreign universities, U.S. institutions coming into the Indian market, establishing campus approvals, which again helps with the visa side of it. The U.S. restrictions, visa restrictions, are forcing Asian students to go to different markets. There are just a few of the KPIs that are driving what's happening in that market.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

Fantastic. Penny, thank you. Hi there. You and then you.

[Alastair Reid, Head of Media Research at Investec]

Thank you. Just a very quick one on AI and Penny on the margin points. Just to reiterate, there's no change in guidance of the academic margin.

No, that mid-teens sounds right.

Okay, fine. On audio, you already have key deals in place with Amazon, Spotify, etc. It seems like one of the most exciting parts of growth for the business. Is there anything else in terms of those sort of deals or anything else you can do to accelerate the growth within that part of the business even further?

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

Yes, there is. Thank you. Which is to get more and more of our titles recorded because, you know, we do have this huge backlist. We've been lucky to generate cash and to have been able to make some 35 acquisitions. Our strategy in each case has been to get hold of that IP. Initially, in academic publishing, we were after it for digital resources where we've done so well and where there's still considerable future potential with what we've got already. Of course, we have the audio rights too, and that is even seeping into the academic area. If you think about podcasts, many of them are about fairly cerebral subjects. Yes, there is much more we can get off the shelf in our own shop, as well as publishing books in audio more imaginatively where appropriate with multiple voices and dramatizations rather than just straight readings.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

There are all kinds of different levels of audio. The huge change for Bloomsbury was to switch a bit over a year ago from an exclusive contract with one supplier of audiobooks to a non-exclusive deal with them. We have many deals now. Spotify is way the most exciting because they're very ambitious, and it's all there for free. You just slide along at the top of your Spotify bar, and there are books, and you can listen to them as it were for free if you're already one of Spotify's millions of music customers. The fact that people start out as a music customer means that they're a different demographic to the competitive demographic. That's quite good because if you look at the Bloomsbury list, it's quite youthful in many places. You know, the Sarah Maas audience is largely a youthful one. The developments in audio are all going in our direction. I find it very exciting because it means that, you know, a book which you used to need to sit down to read, you can now read while you're driving or at the gym or standing up or running. It's inserting books into the interstices of your life, which had previously been book-free, I hope.

[Penny Scott-Bayfield, CFO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

Ian.

Thank you. [Ian Davey from HSBC]. My question is around Asia being asked, but just as a follow-up on the audio side of things, can you remind us about how the rights work in that area? If you have the audio rights to a title, is that across multiple territories or in a specific territory? Is this an opportunity to gain more consumer traction in North America, for example, with some of your titles, or should we think about it not in that way?

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

The gold standard is, of course, to have America and to have all rights. We do where we can, and some of our books have been huge audio sellers in America. That's what we're seeking. The strict answer to your question is that we have the audio rights in precisely the same countries as the book rights. The sort of minimalist book contract would be for the U.K. and Commonwealth territories with an add-on of open markets shared with a separate U.S. publisher should there be one, often in the continents of Europe and in Asia and Africa. To a large extent, you know, we have the audio rights everywhere except in those cases where we don't have American or possibly Canadian rights.

Thank you.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

Hi.

[Penny Scott-Bayfield, CFO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

Hi, Jess.

[Jessica Pok, Equity Research Analyst at Peel Hunt]

Morning. It's Jessica Pok from Peel Hunt. A couple of questions for me, please. The first is on audio. I'm assuming digital formats, higher margins, but do you need to put marketing behind your new releases for audio? The second one is R&L's mostly integrated now. How are you thinking about M&A? In this kind of environment, for academic, are you finding more deals around better valuations? Some color on the marketplace will be good. Just the final one, just to make sure I understand this properly. On the AI deal, is there a length to the contract? As in, is there, you know, the content can be used for three years and you get a certain payment? Is it, taking aside new deals, a matter of you get the bump up and then a couple of years, another massive bump up, assuming that no more authors opt in? If you see what I mean.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

You can think about AI while I answer audio. Yes, the beauty of a launch is that the publicity that we seek for a new book is platform agnostic. When we're getting a huge interview for an author, when Kathryn Rundell is writing a big piece in the Sunday Times, as she did a few days ago, it's effectively promoting all formats of their work. That's why we like these launches. They're benefiting the e-book, they're benefiting the audiobook, they're benefiting the print book all at once. Mostly it doesn't involve separate marketing. That's why it's cost-effective for us. Yes, of course, we do put, you know, available as an audiobook, and we just remind people of what probably has already become a piece of learned consumer behavior. You asked about the integration of Rowman & Littlefield.

[Penny Scott-Bayfield, CFO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

More future M&A, what are we thinking about in that area?

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

Yeah. We are a destination of choice for people who have a company to sell. We're looking at probably not everything, but we're looking at almost everything where it's the idea of the other side to approach buyers. The market is still, the deal flow is still good. We're being measured in what we're leaping at because at $83 million, Rowman & Littlefield consumed a fair chunk of our cash, and there's much we can do post-integration to exploit that, particularly in the form of Bloomsbury Digital Resources containing titles. We continue to look at everything, but wish to spend within our means as we digest the jewels. Do you digest jewels? Anyway, digest what we bought already, AI.

[Penny Scott-Bayfield, CFO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

When we said real confidentiality, I'm afraid we just can't share that information.

[James Musker, Equity Analyst at Singer Capital Markets]

Thanks. James Musker at Singer. First on Rowman & Littlefield and the integration into Bloomsbury Digital Resources. 6,000 books out of 40,000. Is that a lot of progression done, or is there still a lot to go there? What's the level where the deal made sense and you really see the benefits from it? In terms of the AI deals, within confidentiality, what is it that determines the price of a deal? Is that the size of the LLM? Is it just the number of titles? Is it the use case? What have the negotiations focused on that?

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

It's a bit.

[James Musker, Equity Analyst at Singer Capital Markets]

Talk about.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

May I leave you, RNL, on AI pricing? That's a great question, and that's what I asked myself when we ventured into this space. How are we going to gauge this? It's a bit like selling your car. You know, there is kind of a market price that has been normalized in some circles. I mean, there are actually lots of different ways of selling AI, but some of them are on a per-title basis. That's one answer. The second answer is what the buyer is prepared to pay. The third answer is how good are you at negotiating from that base. We took the negotiation part of that very seriously because it was hugely important when you multiply up by the number of titles. I hope that answers your question. We did our best.

[Penny Scott-Bayfield, CFO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

That's fine. On R&L, as with any list, there is maybe more economic value from certain titles. Actually, 6,000, we very much focused on the ones that would generate the most benefit. Of course, we can get benefit from all of them, but I think it's important to notice, first of all, you know, R&L's trading of the business as is. We've got the, we're starting to really get the benefit from the digital side of it, which we announced when we, you know, was a really key part of buying it. Also, those R&L titles have been very much part of the AI licensing agreement we've done. It's actually, and that wasn't something we factored in when we did the deal. It's really over-delivering from our perspective.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

That's a really good point. AI is so new that we did not factor that in in this really quite recent deal. It is tremendous upside. That's why that phrase, content is king, continues to be true, that if you've got the contents, you're ready for any new technological or other societal developments that will come along. That's the strength of what we have at Bloomsbury. Any other questions? Thank you all very much. You've been a lovely audience. You've been a lovely online audience as well. I'm just going to close by saying 10 things to know about Bloomsbury. Up to who knows 100 Harry Potter episodes now started filming at Leavesden. Disney commissioning multiple movies about Kathryn Rundell's Impossible Creatures. Three, an AI deal done, not just talked about or promised, but done with further deals to come. Want by Gillian Anderson, number one bestseller. You can't get higher than number one. Keith Underwood to move from Guardian Media to Bloomsbury as CFOO. He didn't have to come, but he chose to come. Next, number seven. Six, Bloomsbury Digital Resources finding new academic research library customers in the East. Seven, Bloomsbury Singapore to open soon to harness the explosion in student numbers in Asia.

[Nigel Newton, CEO at Bloomsbury Publishing]

Eight, major signings on the consumer business, including Stephen Graham, He of Adolescence, the series in a remarkable book about fathers writing letters to their sons in an age where boys are said to be a kind of lost generation. This will address that and I think attract a huge amount of publicity. Nine, Bloomsbury voted publisher of the year, not some other publisher, Bloomsbury. Finally, high staff engagement worldwide in our companies in the great place to work survey. Thank you very much.

Participants

Executives

• Keith Underwood, Incoming CFO
• Nigel Newton, CEO
• Penny Scott-Bayfield, CFO

Analysts

• Alastair Reid, Head of Media Research at Investec
• James Musker, Equity Analyst at Singer Capital Markets
• Jessica Pok, Equity Research Analyst at Peel Hunt
• Analyst at Berenberg Bank